A panel discussion with James Bartley, Erik Burkholder, Anna Paige and Eve Lorgen

June 28, 2026 livestream

In this unique panel discussion, we revealed individual experiences of varying forms of narcissistic abuse, dealing with reptilian “hosted people” or other non specific entity attachments in problem personality types. Anna elaborated on her experiences and research with a wide spectrum of behaviors and relationships where narcissistic “family system” environments and entity parasite attachments are perceived to compel abusive and manipulative behaviors in narcissists. She also discussed her research into demonology, what exorcists say about certain deliverance issues, and why narcissistic personality structures, may indeed represent a kind of empty house/vessel which makes demonic infestation even more prone to re possess if “no one is home”. It is hypothesized that the personality structure itself is an open door for entity attachments.

Erik talked about his early family upbringing in a cult system that originated from a wholistic health food business, Yogananda spiritual path focused people who also had connections with the late George VanTassel ET Contactee groups. His childhood witnessed a Hippie cult “social narcissist” commune, with ET Contactee ideals and dysfunctional family relationships causing confusion about what these cults really are in the inside. He has experienced orchestrated relationships akin to the “Dark Side of Cupid” dynamics many times in his life which may have its root causes in the cult family upbrining and the entities running the show in these cult situations.

Eve revealed her own childhood family “operational cult system” which started with a generational marriage love bite set up with parents, who then became involved in a small ET contactee cult with alleged positive beings. Underneath this positivist New Age ET and “spirit guides from beyond” channeling narratives, hid the darker reality of alien abductions, milab involvement and narcissistic abuse in the family system. She believed that the alien abduction “bloodline of interest” preceded the military industrial complex involvement that later became an organizational arm of milab programs that already had occult secret society connected liasons and agreements with the more malevolent, dominant ET races. She also mentioned her father’s secret society membership that locked in his military industrial complex career “control of the family”, concealed the real milab abduction involvement. The conditioning is meant to hide and “narrative bypass” the real abductions, abuse and programming behind a cult narrative and handled within a narcissistic family system. It is all about accessing the children ultimately for abductions and other enslavement systems feeding the predators.

All panelists discussed their perception of an apparent Stockholm Syndrome in the SSP(Super soldier milabs) community and within much of the the ET contact and experiencer population. The disclosure narrative pandered around in the big name circles and “movies” tend to cater to an empathic view of aliens much like how we are conditioned as narcissistic abuse victims to tolerate and even “fawn” after the primary abuser or narcissist in a family or cult system. Stockholm Sydrome, Eve describes as a classic complex trauma flight/fawn response of “unrecovered trauma”. To regain truth, sovereignty and original identity we must remember our eternal spiritual nature and stop identifying with the abusers or dominators, and let go of whatever”operational cult narrative” that keeps us handled and locked in to be “claimed” as victims by the dominators of this planet slave system.

James Bartley did experience some sound difficulties, but the conversation held on with much to talk about.

James Bartley, Anna Page, Erik Burkholder and Eve Lorgen Panel Discussion