Update to White Wolf Von Atzingen Interview

In 2013 I interviewed White Wolf Von Atzingen, survivor of an elite MK Ultra Delta assasin program carried out by the US government. This program was a compartmentalized department of the CIA named SOES, Shadow Operation Extermination Squad.

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The updated material consists of an informal Question and Answer dialogue format between “Kira” and several members of the Wolf Den–(a private Web forum for members).  Kira was one of the nurses who assisted in the same secret training facility White Wolf trained at in Fort Detrick, Maryland back in the 1990s. Kira uses the name Ariksun in this Q&A which took place in April 2015. Much of this is from an informal updating on a private forum. In this dialogue there are specifics described regarding White Wolf’s general training, and unique information rarely discussed about mind control programming, trauma, alter personalities and also astral operations and programming. Apparently Kira also “escaped” her medical job with the “Shadow government”. She too, was essentially forced into her own employment with the US government shadow side. Kira retained proof of White Wolf’s involvement and kept some ofhis medical records, proving the truth of his testimony of involvment in this inhumane Black Op assassination squad training. Many elements of the occult are also included, which seem to be part and parcel of these kinds of programs.

*For persons newly discovering their own mind control programming or in early research and healing modes may find this material triggering.

Recent Note From Kira:

The following Q&A is I suppose a tie-up and attempt at clarifying some foggy details in the interview between White Wolf and Evie. After living on the move and mostly without Internet access for over two decades I managed to contact White Wolf in early spring of 2015. I’d reached a small window in life where I felt I was able to offer some insights, answers and perhaps clarifying details to some of White Wolf’s information presented in numerous formats, including his book Shadow Scorpion; memoirs of an assassin. With that in mind he decided to open a Q&A format in his Wolf’s Den for those members. I agreed and the following is what materialized.

You’ll find out more about me in the lengthy Q&A session. For now suffice to say that I knew White Wolf many years ago when he was in a government training facility in the capacity of one of his assigned medical caretakers. I was privy to a great deal of information that he wasn’t as well as having bared witness to much of what he endured. This lent me perspectives he didn’t have which has allowed me to offer some clarifying and expanded information through this Q&A.

White Wolf’s seemed to remember quite a lot, which is very surprising considering what levels of trauma he went through. Even so, there are a number of points he didn’t recall correctly or with much clarity. Hopefully this Q&A will assist in correcting those points for readers. I will simply sign off with the name he referred to me as in his autobiographical book. Kira

Ariksun (Kira):

I’m more comfortable answering questions asked than presenting information not asked for. After all, I don’t know anyone here besides White Wolf. I’m happy that people are interested though and I don’t mind answering your questions if I can.

Q: Do you feel White Wolf has remembered all he’s presented accurately?

A- He’s remembered much which is quite surprising given the facts. When I performed follow up labs a year after his graduation, only 1 in 8 trainees remembered anything of the training facility under hypnosis and none recalled anything in their normal conscious state. White Wolf was one who could remember, but again only under deep hypnosis.

The facility he was trained at wasn’t in Maryland. It wasn’t at Fort Detrick. The facility was in southern Pennsylvania near Gettysburg. It also wasn’t a single facility. It was made up of three separate compounds spread apart by some miles. There was a tunnel system connecting all three compounds that was used to shuttle the trainees from one to another. Given the state they were kept in, their minds believed all compounds to be one place.

The northern compound contained the small lake and surrounding swamp. There wasn’t much there. The southern compound was the main facility where all the medical labs, behavioral processes, genetic technology, colored rooms and psychic driving areas and activities took place. The western compound was in the Appalachian Mountains and is where the trainees worked their mountain training. That compound is also where the largest indoor gymnasium sat.

Once every 6 months the trainees were shuttled down to the main research facility in Fort Detrick for in-depth testing. Fluid, tissue, bone and hair samples were taken and psych analysis was performed to cross-check the records being kept in the PA facilities. They would give us dose updates for each trainee as well based upon their results.

One other detail I’ll give at this time concerns White Wolf’s one female handler. Her name wasn’t Diana. That’s one of the many names she used, but it wasn’t her name. She went by Diana, Lagina, Twila, Belinda and others. She always used Diana around White Wolf, so that was what he knew her as. She was a demon in human skin!

Q- “Do you have any information on how later, after White Wolf’s initial training, he had horrid nightmares? Was this astral projection by the programmers?

This natural immunity that you speak of, is this what ‘they’ are now attempting to corral in the general population?”

A- Nightmares are all part of the processes the trainees were being forced through. The consciousness can only take so much before it fractures. The rest it hides inside the subconscious. Those emotions too heavy for the conscious to deal with come forward in the dream state from the subconscious. Though he’d have nightmares before the training, and that was most likely from the access techniques the programmers used to slowly prepare him for the training facility.

I have no access to what “they” are working with today. It could be anything.

Q- How does one extract oneself away from such assignments?

A- It’s very hard. In most cases you need to “escape”, sneak away and stay hidden. It all depends on what your involvement was. They usually don’t just let you go.

Q- During this time, what was your living situation? Did you live in provided living quarters, or were you able to have a private off-duty life?

A- All workers had apartment lodging in the residence section of the south facility. I only lived there when trainees were working through blocks. When trainees were off-facility I was given leave. Two weeks prior to trainees returning for the next block I’d be called back in. I was a nurse. My position only existed when trainees were there and however long it took to either prepare for their arrival or do wrap-ups after they left. My private life was rather boring.

Q- Were employees such as you, also given portions of these treatments to keep you more submissive and compliant? Or, was numbness your primary ‘controller’?

A- No. We were there to work. We were all specially trained and we just did the work. I knew I couldn’t leave so there wasn’t much to do besides focus on the work and deal as best as I could manage.

I was only assigned to a few trainees while other nurses were responsible for others. White Wolf was of course one I was assigned to during his training.

Once I was caught talking to White Wolf when I wasn’t supposed to be. We weren’t allowed to communicate with the trainees beyond their medical conditions. We were to view them as lab animals, something you don’t get to know. Punishment for my actions was being drugged and forced into ritual with White Wolf, more than once. The ritual chamber was in an underground bomb shelter beneath the north facility. It was a truly horrible place. Since White Wolf’s mind was already fractured and being manipulated at every turn, he didn’t remember until bleed-throughs occurred later. Even in a drugged state I was very much consciously aware. I’ve never been able to forget.

Q- What was being used to heal the trainees so quickly? Was there a cocktail mix in the IVs? I remember other modalities mentioned in the SS book, also.

A- I think I answered part of this already. Drug cocktails that’d vary in accordance to each trainee and what they were being put through at the time, combined with forced hypnosis, subliminal frequencies and the depth of programming itself. There were other methods, but those were the main ones. You’d be surprised at how the brain can heal the body when forcefully directed and manipulated with external measures of science. There’re always side-effects though, emotional side-effects because injury holds emotion and forced healing doesn’t allow for the emotions to heal.

Q- Was there an average age of these trainees? Similar characters or traits that might mark them for such an induction? They seem to have individual strengths and abilities, yet there could easily be a common thread of personality, for example.

A- The average age bracket was between 16 and 21. Most of the trainees were 18-21 though. The common thread was genetics and how their brains functioned by-way of childhood development. Skills came next in-line.

Q- You say that you found you could not refuse this job offer. How did they strong-arm you into working for them? For how long?

A- They paid for my training and when the position offer was made it was combined with the message that it’d be the only position I’d be able to find. If I didn’t take it I’d be working in the fast-food industry the rest of my life, at best. I worked for them for 7 years before running.

Q- How were you oriented into this program? Did you observe first-hand torturing and other training techniques? (I cannot imagine a better way to intimidate new hires behind locked gates.)

A- I was a nurse so I was present for anything physically aggressive the trainees went through. I was present from the psychic driving phases through graduation. Many times I’d be in the adjacent room tending the monitors tracking the trainees vitals. There was always a two-way mirror present though because I couldn’t monitor everything through the machines. Sometimes I’d have to be in the same room because I was required to administer various chemicals into the IV tubes. I’m shaking just think of all this.

Q- What kind of relationship did you, Ariksun, have with White Wolf?

A- We didn’t have a relationship like that. I never thought of him in that way, which is why I was so happy to hear he and his wife found each other. The connection I shared with him was just something based upon two people living in hell who’d come to understand something deeper. His energy helped open areas of life inside me, areas that were closed off. I think I was just someone that helped him from getting completely destroyed by the program. His deeper personality that is. Most of the other trainees had nothing left of their core personality by the time their training was finished. It was a survival “relationship”, not a “girlfriend- boyfriend” sexual relationship. Reconnecting with White Wolf, no matter how briefly, feels more like reaching out to a long lost younger brother than anything.

Q: Did other clinicians disappear – walk away – to get out of this assignment? Or, did they simply ‘disappear’?

A- One co-nurse that I got along with disappeared halfway through one of the training blocks in 1987. I inquired after her once and was sternly told she decided the work wasn’t for her. I knew not to ask any more and never found out what became of her. Beyond her I never saw anyone leave or disappear. Some of the nurses seemed to really enjoy working with the trainees and were quite taken with all they were being put through.

Q: In looking at your comments about fracturing trainee minds I get the impression that they lose that spark of life and become flat in personality. Is that a correct assessment? Does this newly formed, base personality change with alters? Or, does this manipulated personality carry over from one alter to another?

A- In some cases the broken mind goes flat, but in other cases that spark seems to get condensed. When that happened it seemed the personality had difficulty expressing itself after, though through designated programmed skills the personality would explode with force and precision. Alters could be molded into any format and energy. The alter’s always fully manipulated. One alter could be seemingly flat while another could be quite flamboyant in the same brain.

Q: Blake clearly states that women trainees did not go through the same regimen as did the men. Did you work with women also? If so, what types of methods to break them were used on the females, differing from the males?

A- I never saw any females part of the training program White Wolf was part of. It was all male trainees. In the southern facility there was a dual compound. One of those was designated to training females in psychic tracking (Locators). However, those girls didn’t go through a psychic driving phase. They were selected through specialty school testing, genetics and mental strength (mental endurance). Drugs were used in their training combined with deep mentalist programming techniques to literally “brainwash” them into full acceptance of their work. Beyond the later phases of trainee – locator frequency bonding, the female locator trainees had no exposure to any of the other sections of the triad compound.

Q: You show much tenacity and courage. In assessing your past years’ experiences you came to a seminal moment when you decided to walk away from this nightmare. Was it a particular circumstance or the culmination of everything? “They” certainly could have caused your death upon your disappearing and could at any time. What do you think is the reason ‘they’ are allowing you to live?

A- I simply couldn’t take it anymore. The energy, the people, what was being done, what I was a part of creating and the constant reminder that I’d be tied to it on some level of work for the rest of my life. I began struggling everyday not to have a mental breakdown.

There was one other trainee group that graduated that program after White Wolf’s group. Once they graduated and were sent into the field, the facility started a closure process that took thirteen months. I, along with the other nurses working beside me, was sent to the med labs in Fort Detrick full-time. My duties consisted of working in containment rooms doing tests on people exposed to lab created viruses and bacteria and documenting their reactions. It was horrible.

I ‘m alive because I’ve been running and hiding ever since I left. It took me over two decades to figure out how to manage living this way, who to contact for “legal” papers containing fake names, how to travel and where, how to get money and stay away from the U.S. For the first five years I lived in shacks in the poorest parts of the globe, a ghost.

Q: You stated that you had access to many documents and records throughout this stint.

Can you speak about information on alters that has not already been discussed in various writings here at EM? For example, Do you know how many ‘alters’ got placed into White Wolf? Is there a way to find out? (I do not recall that White Wolf has discussed any total numbers and if there is a way to find out. How could the individual know if alters remain hidden.)

A- I’ve reviewed White Wolf’s material on alters and he even recently sent me a podcast set he’d made exposing more in-depth details, and there’s not much else to add. I think he did an amazing job explaining them.

Only through incredible patience and constant mental work can a person find alters. It’s a slow and oftentimes maddening process. If a person goes too deep, too fast their mind will break or they’ll destroy sections of their mind along the way. Many times those destroyed pieces are necessary keys to unlocking deeper levels of trauma. Through my training and past work I can say many people programmed with levels and levels of alters will never find them all. The labyrinth is far too complex and guarded to navigate without all the accurate codes and specific processes for the structured sequences.

Since I was part of White Wolf’s training, in the medical arena, I saw the creation work of many of his alters. I’ve no clear memory of exact numbers. Many of his alters were overlapped onto other alters and even twinned so if one was found, the other would spin off and activate alternate protection protocols to continue on. His mind was strong enough and his rage was powerful enough, as well as his animal nature and connection, that the programmers were able to create dozens of key alters and multitudes of sub-alters in him. The majority would never see the light of day, but rather were foundations for more complex alters. His defense system is incredible.

I know he’s healed so much and turned into a truly wonderful person, but he’ll never be able to find even a quarter of his alters. With the healing of his psyche the alters connected either meld back into his core personality, get destroyed if the process is not done correctly (and then that section of him is lost) or the alter will activate protection sequences to meld into another alter not yet found. The more broken pieces along the way, the less availability a person has to access the deeper recesses of the alter labyrinth world and many simply get “locked”, never to be seen or heard from, but also never to be healed and reunited with the core.

Q: And, concerning the Lilith demise, I remember White Wolf saying that he accessed her controlling codes but not others. What type of control codes were used? (I envision that the codes control and activate the alters, is this correct?)

A- The main codes she possessed controlled his shifting abilities. I seem to recall she also had a few codes to activate ritual alters in him, all animal based alters. However, yes the codes were sequences of numbers, colors and even words or partial words in old languages not known to the trainee. All codes are used to trigger and control alter personalities.

Q: Several days ago when you first appeared here, you stated that White Wolf’s energies could not be controlled, only directed. Now, that you have communicated with him, what are your impressions?

A- I’d have to say the same as I’ve stated before and agree with what Sami detailed in his comments on the article: Fight to the Death. I’ve seen the intensity of his energy, open and in-full. This isn’t something he’ll ever be able to control, only direct. Once an energy like that’s created in someone you can’t just un-create it, rather it requires a focal point.

Q: You mention being assigned to Fort Detrick and their varied ‘studies.’ Can you provide more specific information as to what diseases and viruses that you observed?

A- They were working with SARS, Anthrax, Ebola, Cholera, Avian Influenza, HIV, Marburg, Smallpox, Junin, Crimea-Congo, Tetanus, Tuberculosis, Syphilis, and Staphyloccus. Those are the ones I saw in the workings. They had higher level compounds where top specialist worked with things you don’t even want to know exist.

Q: Personally, that you came out of this in one sane piece is phenomenal, in my opinion. Yes, we become deadened for a time for self preservation. What inner core have you discovered about yourself that supports you through whatever may come about?

A- After witnessing what the trainees were put through, I had it easy. What I witnessed wasn’t fun, but I think in many ways it was way easier to remain “sane” being a nurse than being a trainee. The main thing that keeps me going is knowing there’re people out there like White Wolf that have managed to get out and create good lives for themselves no matter what the world did to them. I’d like to think I might’ve had a small part in that.

Q: Earlier today, I felt that this way of the world, where we exist today, and how you figure in this story of White Wolf, all relates to the balance of masculine/feminine energies. Any thoughts?

A- I’ve never given it much thought, so I don’t really have an idea to share.

Q: When was it that you first experienced something that made you question your senses because it challenged what you previously thought to be “reality”.

A- I was in my first year at the facility. Handlers brought in a skinny 17 year old kid. He weighed about 145 pounds. In the room with him was a mock brick wall section. They were real bricks, but not an entire wall. We all left the room and viewed through the two-way mirror. That kid was triggered through sound being directed into the room through speakers. He attacked the wall with his body, hands, and feet, everything he had. He bloodied himself on those bricks and crumbled the wall. He never gave in to the pain or injuries. Through sound he was triggered again and out of that alter. The lighting in the room changed to black light. And three separate frequencies were sent through the speakers. When the sound stopped and the white lights returned that kid was spotless and wandering around the room in a state of confusion. That was my first wake-up call to a deeper aspect of what was happening in that facility.

Q: what was the most incredible, super normal “this isn’t possible” -type of thing you have ever witnessed?

A- That would’ve had to be with White Wolf. It was his third year in. His trainers kept him awake for three full 24 hour periods without food or fluids in a windowless cell room the size of a small closet. They pumped in various continuously changing sounds for those three days and nights. Sequences would be broken by short pauses of silence only to start up again. When they pulled him naked out of that cell he could hardly stand. He couldn’t speak, didn’t know his name and was delirious. They dragged him down the hall and tossed him into the dog room. This was a square, empty room with trap doors where trained attack and war dogs would be let into the enclosure. The first door opened and the first dog entered. The dog attacked and instantly, White Wolf changed. He completely changed. The dog was dead in less than a minute. The second door opened and the third and two more dogs entered and attacked. White Wolf killed them both and only received shallow lacerations. With three war dogs dead around him, he strolled naked up to the two-way mirror, called out the names of us standing behind it, in order from one side to the other as though he could see us, walked back to one of the dogs, tore out its heart and began drinking the blood from it.

There may’ve been other incidents, and I’m sure there were, but that’s the one that stands out in answer to your question Wolfgrylls.

Thank you for you kind wishes Diane and Wolfgrylls. I feel them even in this cold gray place that I currently call home.

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Wolfgrylls- I was around the training processes long enough to be able to pick up basic techniques for urban evasion; knowing which countries to target, how to manage passports and travel itineraries along with how to stay low. I’m not near as adept as those specifically trained for such tradecraft, but I knew enough to get by. Now of course I’ve had over two decades of experience, so the processes have become easier. The lifestyle though has never been all that easy.

The dog event White Wolf detailed in his book wasn’t the same one I described above. That was a separate event. They pitted him against dogs numerous times throughout his training. It was horrible to watch.

Matthew- I saw how alters are created through physical and psychological methods combined. I’ve never been exposed to the new styles of instant downloads and distant manipulations of the younger generations. I’d think trying to reincorporate alter personalities would remain similar no matter which method was used to create them. I couldn’t say for sure. Sadly, I was involved in the medical practices of creating alters, not reintegrating them. I’ve heard that one method for beginning to address alters is to first identify how they were created; physically/psychologically forced, or technologically induced. Once the general time period and process is identified, one would move into analyzing how those general processes have and are still playing out in their life. Alters are addicts. They crave the energy of their maker and seek always to hold that energy close. The more active the alter, the more those events/energies/original processes can be seen in the persons overall lifestyle. I’ve heard that the alter personality separation can be approached through the identification of the addictions, and working to reroute the obsessions of those addictions to more beneficial energies that support the core personality. I wish I could be of more use with details, but as I said, it wasn’t part of what I worked with. Even the works of big names in the 40’s and 50’s worked to create fractures and alters, not heal from it. I know White Wolf has two very nice podcasts detailing alters. Perhaps something in them would help you, if he is willing to offer them for viewing.

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I like what Prajna’s said about questioning “programs” and what may or may not be in someone’s mind. I’ve read Matthew’s “program” list and though I recognize the names, and “Ammon” also used those terms but clearly understood the much more thorough titles , in the training facility those terms weren’t around. I’m not sure where they originated. The programs used in the training facility had coded titles. For instance, an elite alpha alter conditioned with assassination for foreign solid assignments would’ve been called, Delta-34-Beta-Red-2. This contains the level of alter personality – Delta, the facility number in-which the alter was created -34, the color code of the alters purpose – Red and ending with the global sector for activation work – 2, for general overseas. “Assassin” programming is a name quite generic in my opinion, because the programs contain that line of skill were many leveled.

It’s a very important point Prajna made by saying we can’t fall prey to the words of others when we don’t ourselves have physical proof of such detailed manipulation. True, everyone’s affected by the global control systems, but in my experience only very few were subject to the rigors of such elite and difficult “programming”. I know there is some out there today trying to persuade the masses that their all “programmed” with these high level covert programs, but I’m not so sure that’s accurate. White Wolf showed me his old covert programming name guide he compiled a while back. I can certainly see many elite conditioning programs laced within those titles that have been used in the U.S., but I’ve my doubts that the amount of people who either claim or are said to contain such programs is accurate. I’ve even emailed conversed With White Wolf recently about this, and he agrees the statements of percentages are probably quite high and a product of both the control system itself and greed. I’ve been researching people promoting such numbers and names and I can say my personal feeling is that there’s little more to them than greed and deep seeded fear with the need to manipulate and control everything around them. Use discretion.

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Even today programs exist to elite program and mind control people. These programs are very physical, very real and therefore the people being manipulated are on-site. With my experience, from what I’ve witnessed I find it very difficult to believe or even understand how people could possibly be elite programmed through off – site, distant measures. The process of breaking people down and conditioning them for the creation of complex level alters (which are required for elite level programming) and then downloading the program matrix is so incredibly complex and detailed. I’ve no idea how this could possibly done at a distance through satellites and video games. From what I’ve seen this just isn’t possible.

General programming to make the populace compliant is easy, but elite level programming is not and a good percentage of people going through that elite programming process die because it’s so intense.

One interesting feature is White Wolf’s psychic sensitivity. Like Sami stated in his comments under the Fight to the Death article, White Wolf’s ability to “see” something at a distance, to know something beyond logical means, is quite captivating. At the training facility they even tried to gear him towards psychic work because he’s got an inert ability to see energies within people that could potentially host a “program”. However, White Wolf’s mind was far better sited and geared towards hunting and killing. I remember a meeting where “Blake” stated, “If we only had two of him we could use one for each enhancement path.” “Samil” was saying White Wolf’s psychic sensitivities in-part came strongly from his genetics, beings that the red-head gene runs strongly in his blood, as does the genetics of the Aryna race.

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One of the most insidious programs I’m aware of that began in the late 80’s and ran though the mid 90’s was a foundational system that was so successful it branched into numerous versions that spread globally. I was made aware of this program because in the south facility there was a compound where test models were occasionally conducted. The program started by targeting people who heavily used drugs and alcohol. Obviously by that time the CIA had been smuggling in drugs from south of the boarder and Asia for decades. The drug train in the U.S. was full. The 60’s decade was a broad-scale test time frame, which proved successful. It was also a time frame where vast amounts of drugs could be quickly and easily dispersed widely throughout the country. Once that time period passed the drugs simply grew in strength and penetrated all levels of society.

The next major phase beyond the 60’s and 70’s was the programming aspect. Enough of the population by then was addicted to various drugs, so phase two went into play. It was called, Shadow Chaser- B (beta). In my opinion it was one of the worst programs ever run. The object was to dup people while in drugged and stupor states into thinking they had been programmed with elite programs. The process was fairly simple. In an altered state under the influence of drugs and alcohol, the subject’s mind opens and naturally occurring compartments start dissolving into one another. This creates the hallucinogenic symptoms. The main people targeted were people using hallucinogens like LSD, Mushrooms and many others, and of course the ever popular relaxant, Marijuana and alcohol.

One the mind was under the hallucinogenic state it was easy to manipulate and induce imagery, sound and the overall senses of the person. This was done through frequency using standard radio waves. These frequency combinations were fed into the radio waves and anyone under the influence of drugs would be strongly subjected to the effects of Shadow Chaser- B.

Within that decade of monitoring, the testing facilities found 90% of users to be “hooked” by the Shadow Chaser- B. Practically an entire generation of people who used drugs for recreation, “spirituality” and alcoholics had been successfully duped into believing they’d been “programmed”, abducted or otherwise messed with by “covert” sources. Phase three went into effect and created false memories through drug use. Again this was so successful they opened the program up to the world.

“One the of the most wicked things is to make people think their programmed, insane or otherwise mentally instable when they’re not.” The reason it was named Shadow Chaser is because the idea was to create a wide-spread general web program, to make people believe they were crazy, programmed, etc, and keep them chasing shadows so they’d be “out of the way” and wouldn’t be using their inherent beautiful energies and gifts for global benefits.

If someone believes their programmed with elite programming, but has no memory, no proof of events and high level skills, they may very well fall into the Shadow Chaser system. Shadow Chaser preyed upon low self worth, abandonment and minds diffused by chemical drugs. Wouldn’t it be something for someone influenced by such a program to change their focus and start living a fulfilling life away from the process of chasing shadows? Interestingly, one of the side-effects from test subjects was an incredible denial system developed by the programs in those afflicted people. Even when absolute proof was show to them, they’d aggressively deny it and desperately hold onto the falsehoods of the program. It truly was an act of evil in my opinion. Shadow Chaser was a “general” program matrix, wide-spread and global in use.

Once again, I don’t know any of you here beyond White Wolf, so I don’t know where you’ve been. I’m not saying any of you are or aren’t programmed or were or weren’t part of covert programs like White Wolf was. I’m just sharing details of what I know. I hope you understand.

White Wolf emailed me and asked if I’d perhaps outline exactly how “specific”, elite programming is done and perhaps show how it might be extremely difficult to perform outside of physical apprehension and manipulation. I could, but it may take some time so I’d like to here if anyone else here is interested in such details before I invest the time.

~~~Old Update~~~

I saw three subjects who’d been exposed to Shadow Chaser-B commit suicide two years afterward. They were so convinced they’d been taken by the government and tortured and mind controlled, but had absolutely no proof, no physical scars or aliments from the torture, no clear memories of anything, just a gut-level speculation. It drove them mad and they took their own life for something that never happened, only because Shadow Chaser-B made them believe it did.

Wolfrgylls has a good point. He mentioned turning to government programming as a possible explanation to give a name to the mental challenges he has. In my experience as a psych-nurse, I’ve found many people who’ve experienced extreme traumas during childhood, like being raped by a parent or sibling, find it easier to place blame for their adult issues on something that never happened than to face the reality of what did. When I was still working in that field it was one of the most common patterns I witnessed. Though it’s true that some people who suffered childhood abuse were also exposed to government programs, there is always proof in those cases; physical scars, medical records, files, bodily trauma from injury inflicted during the programs among other very real red-lights showing the reality of the said events. This’ a very physical world and intense scars left by bodily injury don’t just disappear. I worked as a nurse for these programs. I know from lots of experience that the torture done to the physical body leave scars, scars that don’t just disappear. Even scars left by injuries done in altered states don’t leave the body memory. When the alter is triggered out the scars simply “hide”.  Though in time the body and brain energy can no longer maintain the high maintenance alter holding levels and the scars begin to show up on a permanent basis. Even severe sickness states will bring out scars from alters because the body takes as much energy from the brain as possible for physical healing, leaving little left to maintain alter integrity. Usually in those cases the person’s so low on energy that they’re unable to act through alter states even when the walls deteriorate.

I researched people with “big” names claiming to have been tortured by the government in horrific ways and those same people have not s scar on their bodies. Those same people also claim to have reintegrated many of their alter personalities that gave them memories back from those times of torture. I fail to believe their stories for reasons just stated.

Another important detail is the fact that people elite programmed (specifically programmed) are always utilized for the skills they were programmed with. There’s always a life pattern of movement and actions that show the programming was being utilized. There’s also always very specific and well laid out and executed skills that can be shown and seen. People exposed to general web programs such as Shadow Chaser have no such proof, no physical signs, no enhanced skills and abilities that fit the elite programs.

Q: This whole programming process sounds so proficient. Did you ever get a sense of who devised it? Or, were there others in the background who oversaw this programming process? Off-worlders come to mind. Did the usual instructors do this programming?

A- I never worked with the programming aspect. I only worked with the health of the trainees, physical, mental and emotional. I was exposed to witnessing many of the programming procedures because they were brutally harsh on the human body and I was required to maintain the trainees’ physical integrity. Even so, I wasn’t exposed to the background beyond human history. I can’t say where the processes originated; only that it’s been around for a long time. There were various level instructors in the facility. The ones specializing in the programming procedures were the only ones involved with that aspect.

Q: Even though you have been away from this programming, are there techniques that you learned of how to reduce or eliminate some astral intrusions?

A- The astral energy’s very real in my opinion and experience. Of course there are two levels of access that I’m aware of. A complete access where astral navigation is embarked upon outside the self and a partial access where the astral is only navigated within one’s own mind. The complete access is the genuine access of the astral itself. The partial access is more of a mind play that dabbles with astral energy but has very little effect. It’s more of an advanced dream or hallucination. It all seems “real”, but the energies are so weak, nothing real and lasting occurs. The complete access is where manifestations occur and this includes astral to body. People trained in astral spying and even combat can be physically injured just as real and easy as if they were injured in the flesh. Injuries inflicted in the complete astral access will always show up on the physical body and can be clearly see and felt upon the return to flesh. If one dies in the complete astral access, they die in their physical form as well.

Astral intrusion most of the time is connected to part of the brain or mind keeping a foot in the door, so to speak. What I was told is that if a person removes their focus from the astral, completely in brain and mind, it becomes difficult for astral energy to bleed into their physical life. I’ve found being grounded and centered and focusing genuinely on what I’m doing helps to keep my mind and brain from wandering into astral dream energies while awake.

As to blocking specific astral targeting, I think White Wolf’s laid out some really powerful advice in many of his articles I’ve read in this den.

Q: During your experiences, did you ever see a code used to ‘untrigger’ someone? Your explanations of how tricky this whole process is, leads me to wonder if a ‘wipe clean’ slate was used in order to re-program.

A- Absolutely. Many codes exist to trigger programmed people out of alters. I’m not aware of any codes that can “wipe-clean” a person’s mind from the program matrix though. You can program over old programming, but I’ve not seen an “erase button”.

Q: Were non-humans involved in either side of this programming – trainee or trainer?

A- They did use animals quite a bit in various levels of certain trainee’s programming. Being one of the higher level medical workers in the facility I had to keep records on my assigned employees as well as my assigned trainees. There were two people on my chart that had blood readings I could never fully read and was always told to “ignore” those readings because they were above my pay-grade. “Lilith’s” blood was very strange. I’d never seen anything like it before. There was also a woman from the Locator training side whose blood readings also made no sense to me. To me both of them couldn’t have been full human, but I’ve no idea beyond that besides strange speculations. I’ve heard there were/are “Off-world” species involved in certain bases and programs around the world, but in the one I worked in the only thing that might suggest something of that nature was those two women’s blood labs. There were areas of the triad compounds I wasn’t allowed in or even near. I never knew what took place in those areas. White Wolf and a few other trainees in his group were brought into two of them on occasion. There were also levels under Ft. Detrick that I didn’t have access to and had no idea what took place down there. I didn’t want to know!

Q: This programming process undoubtedly gets to our ‘core’ selves. “They” know us better than we do. Did you find safe methods in getting to the core self?

A- I’m not sure I understand this question. I was never elite programmed.

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Just a few things about myself you might wish to know. I’m in my late 40’s, have pale blond hair and blue eyes. I never had parents that I knew. I never had a family. I was raised in a state orphanage after my mother gave me up when I was born. In school I’d get straight A’s in every subject and was placed in “specially gifted” classes. I completed high school when I was 15 and soon after, when I turned 16, was placed in a special program at MIT for medical and psychology training. That was the only life I knew.

~~~Old Update~~~

Q: With so many caught under that umbrella (Shadow Chaser), how do you see it affecting their children?  They would be groomed socially into a particular mind-thinking pattern, would they not?  Not to mention easy pickings for continuation of the program to the children…

A- Well if you can get the parents think they’re part of some covert project, they’ll have a higher chance of passing along those ideas and possible hysteric or hyperactivity to their children. This could be done through verbal communication or simply emotional behavior. Overtime, such conditioning could be built and passed along through genetics, yes.

Q:  In your travels how do you see all of this programming/mind control evolving?  It might be difficult for you to assess what goes on in this country, but sadly, many are greatly dazed and hooked into their technology phones, etc.  Many truly appear like zombies with eyes glazed.

It seems that we are all being attacked in one way or another with the ELF, satellite coverage, etc.  I suspect that these energies serve to maintain others who are already on Shadow Chaser programming, for instance.

A- Right now I’m sitting in a late night Internet café, and the people in here certainly seem to be in a zombie state! It isn’t just in the U.S. I can tell you that. The industrial nations I’ve been to, for the most part, are filled with people hooked on the spreading handheld tech. I think the future holds a high potential for nations of hunchbacks that can see nothing further than 5 feet away! What I see are empty holes of dissatisfaction inside people being filled with the ever increasing technology that further removes them from themselves and the real world around them. The virtual cloud grows ever larger and more consuming and yes that could be considered a form of general mind control.

The third world countries I’ve been to are somewhat different. The tech control isn’t really there, but typically the U.S. can be found experimenting with drugs, viruses and bacteria on the populations. The overall depression of squalor’s also blatantly apparent. The young and old suffer from disease, starvation and violence funded by the industrial nations raking in the money and resources in the wake. The tech control will never reach those places, but those people are controlled in other manners.

There are very few places I’ve been where the control system is seemingly lacking.

Q: Can you explain fuller what you meant by ‘astral dream energy’?

A- When we dream, part of our energy either partly enters the astral levels of our mind or spiritual/ether levels. People can bounce between those two paths all night. Astral dream energy is the energy of the person being used to access and wander the astral energy in the mind. That’s quite basic, but I suppose one could spend quite a long time in detailing such phenomenon.

Q:  Your bio shows attending MIT.  Were you specifically trained there to become this specialized type of nurse for the agency – special classes?  It blows my mind that one can go from training to be a nurse and begin working at such a facility.  Orientation for SOES must have been a real mind-bender.

A- Yes I mentioned this in a comment quite a while back in the discussion, possibly in another thread. I was given a spot in a specialty training program for “gifted” students where the focus was on physical medicine and deep level psychology. I ran on a full scholarship. Afterward I was approached about the job at Ft Detrick and it was made known to me that I had no choice. I’d no idea I was being trained for such a position.

~~~NEW~~~

Q: With your specialized knowledge base of medical science, and your experiences in government projects, have you learned of any information regarding a conspiracy to target the pineal gland? If so, what are the tactics being used to hinder the pineal gland? and do you know of any counter-measure that can reverse the process?

A- Yes the pineal gland is a target. The most widespread, common methods today for disabling the pineal gland is though countless chemical additives in food, water, low grade supplements and the air itself. Truly there isn’t much in the way of tactics anymore, just the continuation of production and dispersal of common place chemicals. Exposure does the rest.

The best methods for protecting the pineal gland, from a medical view, are the avoidance of contaminated food, water and supplement supplies. Combine that with using it on a regular basis through direct focus and meditation can work wonders. The easiest pineal gland to shutdown is the one least used. Glands that have been calcified take a long time to heal. Lots of patience and daily work. There are herbs in conjunction with acupuncture that can greatly assist, however they need to be catered to the individual. I couldn’t list a generic combination here because there isn’t any.

Q: From what you know about programming, is there really such a thing as an “internal programmer”? a mechanism within the mind that monitors everything the slave does and sabotages the slave’s attempts at self-healing. If so, is this common through out the general civilian population, or only for specifically programmed individuals?

A- For people who’ve been elite programmed, there’s a mental function within their brain that works to hold energy separations between programmed compartments and alters. This region’s very sensitive to anything intruding upon the compartments themselves from the exterior beyond the select triggers assigned to them. I suppose you could term that function an “internal programmer”, but I don’t feel it’s a very accurate term. In general programs I’m unaware of such a downloaded function.

Q: In White Wolf’s book Shadow Scorpion, it was mentioned that you used acupuncture to heal the trainees, but is also mentioned that “black acupuncture” was used. I’m aware of traditional chinese acupuncture but what exactly is black acupuncture? is this some kind of covert form of acupuncture?

Can acupuncture be used to break through programming blockages?

A- Black acupuncture, also termed “covert”, “shadow”, or “negative” acupuncture is acupuncture theory used for the opposite affects of traditional acupuncture. It’s used to disrupt, hinder and negatively manipulate the meridian system in the human body. The practice is quite old and has rooting in the ancient martial style called Dimak, a style the trainees were trained in both physically and through genetic mods. This process began on White Wolf after they took him out of the suffocation blocks. (coffin sized acrylic boxes where the air flow is controlled and slowed until the person inside suffocates into unconsciousness only to be revived by pumping oxygen back into the block)

I’ve seen acupuncture successfully administered to trainees to break old program routines in order to create new ones. I’ve never seen it work on a whole though, just for small and specific program sections. It can be used on certain individuals to “break through” certain levels of program, but I doubt it’d work on everyone equally.

Q: Kira, did you ever witness WW shape-shift? And if you did, what did it feel like to you, what did it appear like?

A- Once, yes. It was in a ritual and I never wish to see something like that again, ever. I was behind a two-way mirror monitoring when I saw his shift. My skin crawls just thinking about it! If I never witnessed it I’d never believe the human body could do such things and survive. I could hear bones cracking and joints popping through the growls and inhuman noises of seeming agony. What remained after the shift was something I’ll never forget. I can’t think about it anymore. I’m sorry.

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To everyone here, I’ve been contacted by the only person whose been helping me stay as safe as I can over the years. The first two people disappeared some 12 years ago one night when they were to meet me and help me out of a country. I never found out what happened to them. They assist me getting from one place to another and inform me when where I’m at gets too dangerous. It seems to be that time again. Even though they’re very knowledgeable and have the required skills, there’s a price. People like this are connected in dark places, which in-part is where the dangers can arise from. I’ll be leaving very soon and have no idea where I’ll end up, but I must go. If I can ever manage to return here to White Wolf’s website, I will. Truly I’m surprised I’ve been able to remain as long as I have. Blessings to you all. You’ve all touched my heart.

~~~NEW~~~

Q: What went on in rituals and what purpose did they serve?

A- This is my last communication here, for now. My access out is within the next 32 hours and all electronic communications stop tonight.

White Wolf detailed a ritual fairly well in his posts called Memory of Glass and in his book Shadow Scorpion. There were many variations though. The one in his book took place in the north facility’s underground chamber, but the Memory of Glass was a cult ritual that took place separate of the facility that “Lilith” was involved with.

The rituals that took place in the facility numbered at six different ones. Not all trainees were subject to the rituals. Only a few hand selected trainees were chosen for ritual use. Mostly it depended upon genetics and if they’d been part of ritual cults outside the facility. “Lilith” had White Wolf dragged into rituals through the cult she was part of because of his shifting abilities. Since she was also employed at the facility she also had him selected for government occult rituals.

Once his blood type was changed through stem cell therapy, he was fair game for rituals. Type O was prized for one aspect of ritual use, the aggressor. His new blood type combined with his shifting abilities made him a real prize in their eyes. He became sort of like a prize fighting dog in dog fighting pits. He was reserved for only higher level rituals of specific types. They wouldn’t use him for just any old ritual.

Where other selected trainees were typically used in “directing” rituals, rituals that were geared towards directing energies, White Wolf was reserved for energy “creation” rituals. The “creation” rituals did just that, they created high intensity and power energies through various ritual acts. Typically only very high power/energy people of very specific genetics could be used in those rituals. White Wolf’s manipulated genetics made for a highly sought mixture and power source.

Rituals simply generated or directed energy. Depending upon who was participating and what actions were done, what surrounding elements were involved and time of day/night and year determined what energy results would develop. The idea is simple enough. For every action there is a reaction. Ritual follows that foundational principle. The details are what can be seemingly endless.

To my knowledge the training facility only used six types.

• Creation for projects

• Creation for alignments

• Creation for manifestation

• Directing for projects

• Directing for alignments

• Directing for manifestation

Sexual acts of every kind imaginable can be used in rituals, as well as torture and sacrifice. White Wolf was reserved for high powered creation rituals involving one male- him, and young aged females that would either build and draw energy from him or be his sacrifice. He was always drugged in ritual and only with rare moments could his conscious mind compute the events. I was used only in ritual with him and was drugged myself. I was only aware of six rituals he was involved in at the facility and of those five I was used twice. The drugs administered for me were not the same kind given to him. I was quite unfortunately aware of almost everything. It was my fear and pain they wanted to enhance and draw energy from, so they needed me fairly conscious. As far as I know, White Wolf has no recollection of those two rituals. In one of them I believe I was more afraid than I’ve ever been in my whole life and couldn’t imagine being that afraid again. What I saw and experienced are things I can’t speak of.

The one misleading piece of disinformation circulating the Internet is the idea and belief that a person will only do under the influence of drugs, hypnosis and other covert control measures, that which is in the persons mind patterns. For example, a person cannot be made to kill under drug influences and hypnotic states unless it was already in that persons natural, constitutional make-up. This is a completely false belief and holds no ounce of truth. I’ve seen first-hand how a person can be made to do something they would never have done prior to the manipulation. I’ve studied the works of Dr. Watkins and read the studies of hundreds of his patients. Many were found to be the most gentle and caring people. Through his covert and rash hypnosis practices he could turn them into mass murderers. There are cases studies of people who “wouldn’t hurt a fly and have behavioral patterns of the gentlest souls on earth”, who ended up killing in cold blood their own friends after Dr. Watkins ran his practices on them. This was in the last 40’s. At the training facility I was those practices greatly enhanced at work and I can say that with the proper levels of torture, hypnotic practices and drugs, they can change anyone into anything.

I hope I’ve answered all of your questions well enough. I offered what I could as best as I could. Perhaps once I’m settled again I’ll be able to return here. Love to you all.

 

Alters and Triggering, transcript from earlier podcast:

 

Element Mountain Web site:

http://elementmountain.com

 

Small Circles of 5 Animals Jujitsuhttp://www.smallcirclesof5animalsjujitsu.com

More about White Wolfhttp://elementmountain.com/about-white-wolf/

Shadow Scorpion book linkhttps://www.smashwords.com/books/view/76405

(that is the newest edition of 2015)

Other e-books by White Wolf: https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/WhiteWolfVon

Video links:

Philosophy of Happiness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7kolV0H5aE

Survival Combat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65lDf2mxZMw

Knife Solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65lDf2mxZMw

Knife Throwing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMK5WMwdpUE

Chaga Hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42-zuj-5T6g

 

Radio Show and Updated News on Milab Round Table Event

I just gave a great 2 hour interview on Masaki Akaida’s Youtube and Podcast Radio Show Monday July 20, 2015.

Podcast: http://www.akaida.com/blog/akaida-podcast-004-eve-lorgen/

Youtube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKPQV8lN5WI

We discussed:

  • – UFO abduction research in the 1990s, what was being discovered
  • – The role of women as groundbreakers, healers in the ET / UFO research field
  • – The Alien Love Bite, Dark Side of Cupid
  • – Alien and Negative Entities Milking Human Emotions & Relationships for Energy
  • – Reptilian Hosting & Strip Clubs
  • – Being aware, new wave of ‘New Age’ popularity right now
  • – MILABs (Military Abduction) phenomena & ‘Super Soldiers’

As a reminder we have some new  Milab Round Table Participant Panelists to join us Saturday July 25, 2015 6 pm Eastern Time. James Bartley, Tom Montauk and Carissa Conte will join us for this rare and dynamic, controversial subject. We may have some surprise guest “milabs” also. Remember to register at the RISE Multiversity Web site at the link below and give some time to sign in and also download Zoom if you don’t already have it to participate in this video conferencing Discussion Event.

Round Table July 25th

http://www.risemultiversity.org/the-milab-experience-keys-to-recovering.html

 

Interview with a Female Milab and Project Avalon Member

By Eve Lorgen

This is an informal written interview of a female “milab” abductee whom I recently became acquainted with via my research. She prefers to maintain her anonymity at this time and suggests her name as only, a “Project Avalon Forum Member”.

I became interested in her experiences and opinions because she has been actively engaged in over two decades of healing and recovery work. She has recovered much memory and understanding of her experiences, especially the methodology which was used to find and create paranormal abilities.  She also asserts to the liaison of alien and human military involvement in a co-created project to produce operatives with supernatural abilities like remote viewing, time folding, bi-location and clairvoyant faculties.  What I find is that with true healing and recovery, experiencers of such projects no longer cater to the “entertainment” angle or the popular opinion aspect of the Paranormal/Conspiracy/UFO community circles. Healing, recovery and awareness work takes a sober, dedicated individual who learns to trust inner wisdom. Inner wisdom is not some “program of belief” or ego based defense system, but listening to the heart and dealing with the emotions carried through traumas. From what I have gathered with many wise experiencers who have done their own healing work, authentic awareness and self discovery does not happen with a single quick fix method of “healing”. It takes years of emotional processing, letting go of beliefs and behaviors which no longer work, while maintaining an inner core of truth and dedication to integrity on all levels.

1. When did you discover you were a “milab” abductee?

I would not say that I “discovered”, rather that I have always had memories that were attached to the military and abduction from an early age.  The term “milab” is something that I’ve gotten used to over the last five years.  While doing research on people like myself, I realized that the term applied.  The memories that I speak of are attached to an elementary school located in upstate New York, where I grew up for the first 8 years of my life.  Not only were kids like myself pulled from classes and tested for psychic abilities, but also kids were tagged by the military due to creativity, intelligence, and hearing abilities.  A white van would park outside the school, unmarked, with testing equipment for hearing, the other tests were done in the school with the acquiescence of the principal (who later was fired under allegations of child molestation). The army base that was involved in this (early 1970’s) resided only about a mile away.  Access to children, for them, was a non-issue.

Did this also involve alien visitations of various kinds?

Yes, my very first abduction memory, which actually occurred before I started elementary school (at the age of 4 years old) involved the Navy as well as an alien element.  In this memory I was taken from my bed to a small submarine by men.  These men then experimented upon me using drugs and torture methods to induce my leaving my body.  Once this was accomplished, I came into direct contact with what one would call Mantid/Grey intelligence.  This creature, which I could see clearly out of body, was overseeing the project with great interest.  I was informed by this intelligence that I was to return to my body as the experiment had been a success.  In later years I recall with clarity subsequent incidences which involved both military and aliens seemingly working together physically.

 

2. What discoveries did you make about your own family history in regards to why you were chosen for this project?

My family has a strong military background. Navy on both sides. This seems to be an element that may have some indication of a family history. Also, I’ve done research into the bloodlines of Milabs, and there is a pattern that includes Native American Indian mixed with Celtic heritage. My grandmother was of native blood, and the rest of my heritage includes Viking as well as a family coat of arms dating back to England and Wales.  Another significant aspect is that the women in my family were considered psychic or sensitive on the Viking side.  On top of this, both sides of the family were Masonic.

 

3. Are you aware of any official project name for what you were involved in for “milab operations or experimentation?

The only project name that I recall is “Bluebird”, though I do not know if this was the project name, or the name that I was given. Children were taken in large groups as well, we were separated by talents in clothing (matching paper gowns, foot socks, and pants)  The group I was in wore hospital blue, there was also a green and red group.

 

4. Did you have early childhood abuse from family, that you believe is related to being in a “project”?

Yes.  Abuse and access to children for experimentation seem to walk hand in hand.  Not only are children abused by their abductors, yet also families seem to have a history that is related to such abuse. Perhaps this is generational and by design. There seems to be a relationship to sexual abuse, energy transference into entities, and families. Sexual stimulation was also used to induce an out of body experience. Feelings of helplessness and fear create adrenalin which also quickens psychic awareness and induces a state of altered consciousness. Altered states of consciousness are fundamental to teach remote viewing, time folding, and the ability to leave ones body at will.

 

5. What about the occult or ritual element, was this present in any of your experiences?

I have several memories of masonic experiences, which are rather occult and ritualistic.  However, I consider myself fortunate to not have had the experience of being raised by satanists or people who were cognitively seeking stronger links to darker forces.  There certainly is a darker element involved with this type of abduction experience.  The puppet masters may actually be one in the same when discussing Reptilian aspects, however, rather then being “black magic” oriented, my experiences have had a very clinical nature to them.  They have always been scientific and militaristic in embodiment, sterile, and cold.  However, this does not exclude the fact that nefarious forces take notice of gifted people; and the converse is also true, gifted people take notice of nefarious forces.  IMO black magic is a tool that has been used, and used effectively with milabs, It also comes with a price.  I have had encounters that could be established as attacks from ritualistic magic, and have seen things that would be considered dark occult in nature.  There is a link here that I feel needs to be considered.

 

6. What kinds of beings, whether alien/ET or inter or extra dimensional, were involved in your abduction related experiences?

Human-like beings, some with long dark hair and others with cloth upon their heads, one being that was seemingly a giant (though these may all be screen memories implanted by the military, it’s important to be open minded about this), I’ve seen a Reptilian, ones that would be called Greys, Mantid, also smaller whiter beings similar to greys but with smaller expressive eyes.  Also very small creatures with interesting technology.  It’s been a rather mixed bag.  Some claim to be “helping” while others are doing a job with very human military people with them.  I was rather young when I saw the Reptilian, I was shocked and bewildered after the internet became a household tool. There I found others who described similar beings.  It seems to be more then just coincidental that so many are able to describe these visitors in such detail and similarity.

 

7. Were you ever told by these beings, or humans, medical, etc., that you have been genetically modified or are of some sort of “hybrid status”. Or what they call “augmented”?

No. Though the term “special” was often used.

 

8. Do you have any unusual medical or physical attributes that you consider “alien or hybrid?”

No, unless you would consider poor health and a lifelong battle with allergies to be unusual.  I’m a very pale nordic-looking female.  Tall and slender.  I’ve been told that I appear alien, but that is not unusual considering my heritage.  One interesting finding that I recently discovered while doing resonance therapy was that I tested positive for a “Kuru” bacteria that was rather ancient and not supposed to exist in modern times.  This was with Resonance testing which was created by Dr. Voll.  The practitioner said that this can happen to people who are remote viewers, they can pick up viruses and bacteria from the past and bring it back with them.  I do not know if there is any validity to this, however, I do find it interesting.

 

9. What kinds of abilities did you discover you had that were not “average”?

I’m a visual artist.  My IQ is above average.  I have an innate understanding of quantum physics. I remote view and am considered to be psychic.  I’m what you would call “sensitive”.

 

10. How were you instructed or trained to utilize these “abilities” in milab experimentation or operations?

Unfortunately, the military uses rather crude methodologies to get results.  There is nothing finely crafted nor subtle about how this is accomplished, at least not in my era.  Torture, drugs, psychological trickery, trauma and more are all utilized to accomplish any given goal.  For example, a person could be placed out in the middle of a mine field and then told to find their way back to safety using only their abilities to detect where not to step foot.  Another scenario is a group training where people are locked into a warehouse and they must work as a team to escape, this is to ascertain who works well together, who has leadership qualities, what a person can take physically etc.  In terms of training, lies are utilized.  For example, I would be given a picture and asked to find the person in the picture.  I would remote view with others the site and astrally lead them to their goal.  However, what would happen next could be nothing short of murder.  This I was never told, but I hung around once and discovered this was indeed the case.  For a child, innocence is used as a way to coercion.  The military knows through profiling who would pull a trigger and who would not.  I would not.  As I would not willingly lead anyone to harm, rather a keen sense of loyalty and a need to help others were used as tools to get me to do what they wanted.  The desire to be loved and complimented is also a strong force.

Did you ever observe cloned people or hybrid alien humans?

Yes.  I believe that I had an experience with a hybrid at a gallery that I owned.  It was an unusual conversation.  The woman was very tall, and had incredibly thin hair that barely covered her head.  Her face seemed out of proportion, like a person who has had too much plastic surgery.  I remember looking up from my desk and there she was, asking me if I was happy and fulfilled in my current position… it was a very unusual conversation.  I noted that I had to really concentrate on her words, as I was effected by her and put into an altered state.  As soon as she left my, brain wanted to forget the interaction, yet I held on to it.  Still it is fractal and not clear what she was telling me.  I will never forget that.  She seemed to just vanish when she walked out the door.  It was very unusual.

 

11. Are you aware of any compartmentalized alter personalities that were created with specific abilities? And did you remember how these personalities were “created”?

Yes and no.  I was strapped into a chair and tortured until my mind fractured.  I remember that I created hallways and closets in my mind with doors that led to emotions.  Each door had a label or a number.  Since then, I’ve opened up the doors and reintegrated these fractured parts of myself.  I’m not trying to be glib about this, this process took 20 years of hard work.  “Abilities” is not the right word, persona is more to the mark.  Each persona had an emotional aspect, each emotional aspect would be able to preform tasks.  For example, if one was in a mine field then you would not embody the emotion of fear, rather a calm and solid state without emotion would be most effective.  However, where does the fear go then?  Into the closet.  Either way, the “ability” to detect mines could be compromised by an emotional state.  For me personally, it was always about controlling emotions, not compartmentalizing abilities. However, this is my own personal experience.  I have no doubt that the manchurian candidate scenario is a unfortunate truth for others.

 

12. Have you ever experienced bi location accidentally or in the framework of being “trained by your abductors” in milab operations or ET related experiences?

I have to laugh.  This is a very loaded question.  During this interview I have been very cautious (sorry) due to the understanding that what I say has a certain retribution.  Milabs in general know this.  We put our necks out and things happen.  These things can be very difficult, I know I’m being vague here but it can be targeting, emotional trauma, and physical targeting that is rather dangerous.  However, I would like to discuss what I call the “change”.  The change is related to a change in location for me personally which also encompassed a change technologically in how these interactions occurred. Which has a great deal to do with bio-location.  In my personal experience, this change occurred in the 1980’s.

In the 1980’s I had the misfortune to be taken regularly by a group that my have had military interactions, but they seemed to be more human experimenters, doctors who had the ability to bio-locate to continue these experiments on a completely different level.  Meaning:  At first I was being physically taken by military that were mostly Navy, then, when my family moved to another location, a very different type of abduction began to occur. This may be due to being closer to an area where this tech was being used or it may be due to technology that was gained during that era, or both.

For example, literally my room would melt when I was going to sleep.  Melt. In describing this everything would turn white, people would “appear” in my room and then encircle my bed.  These people were now not necessarily military, but were all white coated lab techs/ doctors.  My bed would turn into a very sterile stainless steal bed, all of this would occur while I was wide awake.  I could, in the initial beginnings of this transference, get up and go to the bathroom for example, but then upon returning to my bed, the transmutation of reality would occur rather quickly and continue again.  This was very different from the military abductions that I had experienced earlier and also the ET abductions where I was taken to a craft and had more interactions.  This was an entirely different world than the physical abductions that I was used to.

The abduction technology, which I was familiar with, where an ET could enter through walls, closed windows etc., was IMO being utilized by humans.  Human people knew how to do this and were/are doing this.  So in answer to your query, Yes.  Physical and astral– both.  Perhaps it is difficult to know which is what.  This is where the physical aspects of “BEING” come into question.  Timelines distort, and a person can be placed in the past, present or future… it’s hard to describe, yet I know the truth of this.

Now this “change” really encompassed more.  Also, I noted that I could be suddenly needing a nap for instance (which I believe was a programmed response), I would lay down and find that I would be “pulled in” to a scenario that was using me for a Remote Viewing operation.  Now, this means that we can be taken out of our bodies by another group through their will.  This is concerning.  I’m not meaning to scare anyone, but this needs to be discussed.

Another aspect is being placed into an alien body to perform tasks off world… this was also a part of my experience.  During this experience humans were working with ET’s together to perform tasks, tasks that could be performed by an ET body safely, but a human mind was needed to complete the task in a human way.  There was some type of agreement that enabled this, but for me, I was only a child and so I was just doing as I was told.

These experiences have lessoned as I’ve gotten older to a great degree. Assets are used until they are no longer useful. Yet also, I’ve stepped up my abilities and used what i’ve been taught against the very format that I was brought into. I RV my own experience now.  This does not mean that I am safe by any means, just that I’m in a cognitive struggle to retain my own independence.

 

13. What about telepathy between humans in abductions/experiences or in “real life/physical life” situations?

I have noted that we can recognize each other.  This can be due to being part of a same grouping, or perhaps it’s just that we can tie into each other on a psychic way.  It’s one of my talents, to be able to read people, but I feel a pressure and a familiarity when I walk on the street and feel another that has been used cognitively or not in these experimentations.  A lot of people do not even realize that this is a part of their reality, that’s another can of worms.

 

14. What are your opinions on the latest revelations by Simon Parkes (Kerry Cassidy interview this summer in UK) with reference to some ET beings wanting to ascend, and his general overview of the abduction and milab issue?

Simon is admittedly under the guidance of what he calls the Mantids.  He also states that he is “reptilian” in nature or soul.  In dealing with anyone who has such a strong identification with another race I would advise caution.  What a person can trust is one’s own sovereignty and autonomy.  Think for yourself always and use such interviews as indications of information that may be either accepted or discarded using one’s own discernment.  In order to do this effectively, you need to take an active participation in discernment by taking the time to study.  If you (the reader) are a person who believes all that you hear;  you are selling yourself short.  As to the ascension issue, it is interesting to hear the terms “riding on the backs” of other humans.  Reminds me of entity attachment, which is parasitical in nature.  However, the idea that races need to advance (and I would include humans in this) as we all stand to make room for spiritual improvement, is interesting.  True or not?  Simon believes his own truth and what he is told by mantids.  I believe my own truth, however, I’m open to new information and open to the idea that not only have I had to go through programming, but I am continually dealing with programming issues either through basic media or through my own experiences.  We need to always question everything, including ourselves.  That takes courage and the willingness to personally change your beliefs if need be.  Each individual will have a perception that differs from another.  This is based on our experiences.  Simon is a product of his experiences and an interesting person to study.

15. Have you had any experience with the targeting technologies to thwart your healing and awareness process, which is not ” a program”, but some external applied technology or interference?  Or have you experiences a “love bite” disruption or having disrupter agents sent in to derail your awakening, etc.?

Yes, I’m currently being treated for EMF over-exposure, which is unfortunately a tactic that is used often with targeted individuals. There are a few methods that I’ve found helpful, ie:  Copper coils shaped like the letter “G” beneath my mattress and also surrounding my bedroom with copper wire.  A friend recently suggested homeopathic gold, which I am rather excited  to try.  I meditate and use methods of energy circulation that I learned through reading Mantak Chia’s books.  However, as much as I try to prop myself up, the fact is that this constant vigilance can be exhausting at times.  I am always experimenting.

As to handlers and or disrupter agents, life is full of them.  Due to programming anyone can be used to accomplish this.  Frequencies in people can be manipulated just as easily as electrical frequencies in cars.  My husband and I are very careful to negotiate rather then argue, which is thankfully in our natures.  I ask myself daily if my feelings/thoughts are my own. There is a difference in thoughts that are patterned interference and genuine thoughtfulness. You can pinpoint this difference and block the patterning by raising your personal frequency, or rather, change your frequency. Even doing something simple like taking vitamin C or having a salt bath can accomplish this. Be your own programmer.  Change the game. I believe that they want to keep a milab in a constant state of anxiety.  Anxious people are easier to herd and control. Paranoia is also a great way to easily discredit a victim.  For instance, I have had at times two strangers walk up to me to inform me that they were watching me.  If you react with fear, they have done their job most effectively.

Surrounding family or friends can also be used and manipulated to do the work of a disrupter, or people suddenly appear and turn out to be rather sociopathic. I have needed to be on guard.  Most people do not know that they can be used to target others; and then there are those who are handlers and very much aware and doing the job. In my case my own parents acquiesced a certain amount of access to me by the military, as well as my elementary school.  I take care to be vigilant, cautious, and make pains to create intelligent choices with regards to whom I  surround myself self with.  My family and I are no longer directly involved and I’ve chosen to live in another country.

As to the alien love bite:   I’ve been in several past relationships that seem to fit this context.  I was stalked by a person who was rather dangerous and obsessive for several years.  I am much more discerning now, thank goodness, and less apt to get caught up in such emotional entrapments.  My own personal maturity had a great deal to do with my ability to discern “love bite” love from relationships that are healthy.  As we know, sex is entangled in energy harvesting, abilities, and control methodologies.  There is much to consider before heading into a relationship.

 

16. Which healing and recovery methods were most useful to you in your own journey?

I’ve discovered that a form of memory retrieval which repeats traumatic experiences until they no longer hold charge is most effective.  It is horrific, difficult, time consuming, and exhausting.  But, well worth it.  One of the experiences that had caused me much difficulty was the use of flashing lights to program me.  I have always had a hard time with flashing lights.  However, when I went through this memory over and over again until I could talk about it easily… well I felt much better after.  This was done with two other very qualified practitioners who were able to help release the charge, protect my space, and let me lead myself through my own memory safely. They used some methods that have roots in Scientology, however, they are NOT Scientologists. There is also the idea of the holographic universe that is utilized to help release charge and create understanding of motivations.  For example, one could not only go through a memory from your own perspective, but also through the perspective of others who may also be in the memory with you.  All information has access if one understands the holographic nature of the fabric we are made of.  In a nutshell, I remote view my own experience.  But you need not be a remote viewer to do this effectively. (Do not try this alone!  If anyone is interested I can provide information to you, Eve, that would allow others to contact the people that are doing this.)

 

17. What advice would you offer to a person who knows they are a milab and wants to recover memories and break free of the programs?

Be careful. This will change your life. I will be perfectly honest here. Things will get worse before they get better. Be prepared for all kinds of ripples in your life. They do not want you to remember, so there is programming in place to make you sick, to emotionally sabotage yourself, even to hurt yourself through drugs or alcohol.  Be aware that you have work to do and be resolute in your desire to know yourself. Be ruthless with your memories, stick to fact and reality as you know it to be true. Do not waver. Take care who you speak to about this, as it will be used against you.  Take care to have support; lone wolf programming is very strong in milabs, find others like yourself that you can share with.  Research.  Give yourself uplifting moments every day.  GROUND yourself through gardening or taking long walks.  Seek out all that is real and tactile to base yourself on two strong feet.  Eat well, try to sleep more, and do not alter your state of mind through the use of drugs or alcohol.  Meditate, try out yoga, relax.  Cry when you have to and do not suppress emotions, yet do this safely for yourself and for others.

Most helpful is knowing that I am not alone in this. Long live the internet. I’ve gotten the most solace through interacting and talking with others like myself. Sites like the Project Avalon Forum have been instrumental to my healing. Also, ditching my ego and my ridiculous notion that I could handle all of this by myself. What we do not know is far more interesting and revealing then what we do.

 

EL: This is a good point. I’ve also found that healing is a process that requires that we connect with others in such a way that a mutuality of benefit takes place to heal one another. I’ve mentioned this in the “Dark Side of Cupid“ book in the Healing, Awareness and Recovery section. I think what often binds us to “try to do it all alone” is conditioning by our society, and especially the patriarchal program. Shame is also the biggest deterrent to healing, but also the defenses which keep us bound to avoidance of the pain of what our heart can tell us. Our emotions are actually the key, and this requires an open heart connection. When we can connect with others from a mutual heart space, is when authentic change and profound healing can take place. I am saddened by so many people—especially men who “keep to themselves” and have conditioning that tells them “they must be strong and do it all alone” and “I don’t need help or counseling”. When people make these statements defensively, they tend to be the ones who really need counseling and healing. And because they refuse to acknowledge their own lack of healing, they inadvertently hurt others through their denial and defensive behaviors. If they can let go of their defenses  and longstanding beliefs and programs, a whole new way of being opens up leading to a heart centered happiness. I can’t tell you how many times I hear this from people seeking answers and yet their egos forge the way to stop them because they are too proud or too “stuck in programs” to even to admit to themselves that “they need help”. This actually stops the expansion of awareness and empowerment process in my view.  What you said about “Line Wolf Programming” is so true within the milab experience and those who have gone through any kind of abductions or MK Ultra programming. I think the Matrix sets us up to be this way too, since rejection is so common when we really speak out about what “really happened to us”. Most people just can’t handle the truth.

I appreciate your sharing honestly about your experience and opinions on your healing journey.

 

White Wolf Von Atzingen Interview

*An Updated Portion of the Interview with White Wolf can be Found Here:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/update-to-white-wolf-von-atzingen-interview/

Synopsis

White Wolf Von Atzingin is a survivor of a highly sophisticated, technologically advanced MK-Ultra Assassin training program that operated out of Fort Detrick, MD. This program was a compartmentalized department of the CIA named SOES, Shadow Operation Extermination Squad. White Wolf was literally kidnapped in broad daylight at 16 years of age by a team of thugs who worked for the SOES, and forced via mind control and torture to comply with training in this elite, assassin training program. How can this happen in the good ol’ USA?

According to White Wolf, these programs seek to recruit individuals who have the right combination of intelligence, genetics and spiritual “frequency” energies which will yield super human capabilities that they want to utilize for their own purposes. Our secret government–with its “off world alien help” has access to technologies that now can identify and pick out someone from the womb. This chosen person is then subjected to a number of physical and astral “abductions” whereby they are traumatised and programmed for later use in specific mind control programs.

One of White Wolf’s unique gifts which got the secret governments “attention” is his ability to shapeshift into a wolf. He has exceptional wilderness survival skills in tracking, hunting, camoflauge, combat, escape and evasion. He is also an exceptional martial artist. His abilities later were finely tuned while training with some of the most elite Navy SEALS over a ten year period after his initial recruitment.

As a young boy (before the kidnapping), White Wolf was mentored by an old Lenape Native American teacher called Meechgalanne, who taught him much about the natural and spiritual worlds. This native wisdom later helped White Wolf survive his torturous escape from this inhuman mind control assassin program. Most never escape alive.WWmedicine-man-300x200

Interview 

1) I came across your interviews via Off Planet Radio and was very interested in hearing more about your personal experiences with “black op” training in your younger years. You say in your Shadow Scorpion memoir that you were literally kidnapped by shadow government people at 16 years old. What special or unique abilities did you have at that time in your life that may have been a reason for their interest in you?

First of all I would like to thank you Eve, for taking precious time out of your life to conduct this interview and continually supporting my work. Your efforts and offerings to today’s world are necessary and paramount.

First off, I want to share a little about my childhood, parents, where and how I was raised. I was born in an Army Hospital in Fort Dix, New Jersey.  My father was in the Air force and my mother lived just off base in a small little town located next to McGuire Air Force Base in the Pine Barrens. This area is notorious for having numerous underground bases where genetic experimentation has been going on for years, involving the secret government. After a few years of living in that area of New Jersey and after my father got out off the service, my parents decided to move to the mountains of Pennsylvania. So we moved west into the Appalachian range near the Blue Ridge in Pennsylvania.  This is pretty much where I was raised.  We lived quite away out in the country so it was a very rural setting.  We had very poor TV or Radio reception out there, so I wasn’t raised with a lot of technology. Being that this was the 1970’s and early 1980s, nobody had computers in their houses, we didn’t even have VCR’s back then and so on a good day we would get one station on the TV; an old black and white TV.  It was a really good atmosphere to spend a lot of time outdoors which I did. I was always comfortable in the outdoors and in the woodlands around my house I spent a great deal of time out there on my own. My Parents were quite comfortable with that. Since they knew I was comfortable out there and would always came home, they continued to let me have that freedom.  I had very few rules and regulations placed on me in childhood.

When I was 9 years old I met an old Native American man named Meechgalanne from the Lenape tribe who became my teacher for many years before he died. He had lived the old ways of his people, loosely speaking, his entire life. When I met him he was 86 years old and had traveled by foot the entire country of America for decades. He traveled up in thru Canada, into Alaska down thru Mexico into Central America. His main purpose and goal in life was to seek the truth of all belief systems. Basically he was looking for the underlying foundational truths in all cultures that he came into contact with, including their belief systems or religions, their spirituality and whatever it is they happened to have in their ways of life.  Meechgalanne spent his entire life in this pursuit. When I met him I began training with him in the ways of the wild, wilderness living skills, native spirituality as well as hand to hand combat skills. Meechgalanne’s father taught him an old warrior system which was a mix between an old Samurai system of Jujitsu and a 5 Animal Native American warrior fighting style. His father actually combined that to create Small Circles of 5 Animal’s Jujitsu.  Meechgalanne began teaching me this at a very young age. I trained with Meechgalanne for a decade and during that timeframe he taught me an absolutely incredible amount of information that I have taken into every facet of my life. Meechgalanne taught lessons in a multidimensional way; nothing he taught was flat line. The ways that he taught, me, the self healing ways, and the deep spirituality ways–they literally saved my life many years later.

Some of my earliest childhood memories were of scuffles with cousins, friends and whatnot. My parents told me later that there were signs of deep seated anger and sudden mood shifts and I was prone to fighting. In fact, by 15 years old I already had a black belt in martial arts and was working on my second in two different martial arts. I got into street fighting rings which were illegal of course. They had what they called the mini rings and they were geared towards teenagers, young teenagers. They were like human cockfighting rings. That’s really all they were. It was brutal, very dirty, very nasty energy. Money was bet on the fights and the winner took a percentage which was a small percentage compared to what the betters were taking. I fought on and off in these rings for probably about six years.

During my childhood between the ages of about 6 and 8, I had a lot of memories of being taken from my bedroom in the middle of the night. It was always during the summer when the windows were open. I have very vivid memories of basements, people dressed up in demonic masks. They were human of course, but at the time being a child, and having such an amazing amount of trauma and distress during that timeframe your mind plays tricks on you. And so with those demonic masks they were wearing in that frame of mind I literally thought they were some type of monsters, you know. But years later I realized that yes indeed they were definitely humans wearing masks. I’ve talked about this in great details on some radio shows, and on my website Ways Of The Wild Institute I went into some detail on my blog writing down these memories and stories.

I had become a black belt in martial arts while working along with the natural wilderness skills Meechgalanne taught me. By this time I had been training with Meechgalanne for 6 years. The secret government must have been watching me because it was at that time that I was abducted. Not by aliens or UFOs or anything like that. I was actually in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and was going down to pick up a part for my car.  This is where my story begins in my memoir, “Shadow Scorpion”. The part place was located in an industrial part of town. There was nothing really in that part of town besides loading docks and warehouse buildings and stuff.  Not many people were walking around, it was mainly a workers area, but I could get the part cheaper if I bought it directly from the warehouse versus going through an auto parts store. I didn’t have much money back then so that’s what I did.  So I drove down there one day and parked my car and started to walk down the street toward the building where I was going to pick up the car part. There was an old van there; you know it was one of those big vans with no back windows. When I walked past the van the sliding door opened, a number of men came out of the van and jumped me. I had been studying and fighting at that time for about six years and hadn’t been street fighting for that long but I had been training with Meechgalanne,  so I did my best to fight back, but it was absolutely useless. The skill level of these guys was far beyond my sixteen year old skill level. I felt a very sharp stab in my neck and that’s it, I don’t remember anything else until I woke up. When I woke up I found myself strapped to a table in a room. This is when my government involvement began.

I was in training out of a facility in Fort Detrick, Maryland which was a side facility for a branch of the Central Intelligence Agency. The division that operated out of that facility was called SOES (Shadow Operation Extermination Squad). I was brought into division 10. The absolute main baseline purpose of this facility was to train individuals to become assassins for the shadow government. I was in this facility on and off for three years.  During this time I endured an amazing amount of torture, trauma and very elite training that had a lot of foundations in the wildness skills and combat skills I was learning with Meechgalanne.  Between my background training, my mind patterns, my bloodline and my father’s kind of shallow, loose involvement with the Air force, I believe these were the main reasons I was selected for these programs. To be selected for these programs, you can’t sign up for them you know, well you can of course, but only people that they have targeted for many years are actually accepted into these programs and acceptance into these programs are based completely on the individuals mind patterns, their bloodlines, genetic lines as well as their natural talents and skills.

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Implants

In the training facility I endured a lot of extreme trauma, mind control tactics, all kinds of experimentations. I later discovered anomalous objects that appeared in X-Rays that may be some kind of “implant”.

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What we call in the government “training” is programming. And then after three years of being in this training facility I graduated and was put into live mission work. I was nineteen years old at the time and began traveling to different areas of the country. These travels were funded by the organization and I was being used as what they called a Homeland Assassin. Homeland Assassin means that I didn’t travel overseas.  My missions spanned from Canada to Central America.  I worked as a homeland Assassin for thirteen years plus the three years at the training facility so that’s a total of sixteen years of involvement.

To recap, yes, when I was 16 years old I was literally taken by the shadow government and more specifically the Central Intelligence Agency of the Untied States of America. In my book I have detailed a basic but solid layout of my past. You are correct in that such shadow programs seek individuals with special abilities that will fit their future uses within the programs. This not only saves on time in the training process but also allows the recruiters to hone in on specific “target” individuals more precisely geared to specific timeframes of their skills development. All individuals selected for such projects run by the shadow government are handpicked from the time they were infants. It all has to do with genetics, mental aptitude and skill sets.

By the time I was taken into the projects at 16 years old I had already been training under my teacher Meechgalanne (who in my book Shadow Scorpion I gave the name Windhawk) for 6 or 7 years. During this time I became highly proficient in many targeted skills. Specifically my skills set included wilderness and urban survival methods, tracking, stalking, evasion, traps and snares, hand to hand combat, martial arts and weapons training, energetically reading the land, animals and humans, traveling cross-country long distances on minimal food and water and with minimal supplies, communicating with animals through my mind and tapping into the non-physical aspects of my life (spiritual practices). I could also shapeshift at this time and had been since I was around 13, to my memory anyway. For 16 years of age these skills were quite high in quality and I have felt this was partly due to the extremely high level training supplied by Meechgalanne but also my natural born abilities that radiated around such skill sets and energies.

2) Did you ever wonder or discover later if your parents or any family members (Uncles, aunts, cousins, Grandparents, etc.) were involved in any secret societies, military industrial complex jobs, or alphabet soup agencies? (In any country)

I have wondered for many years and done my best to research such possibilities. It hasn’t been easy and what I have found is rather basic. My great grandfather on my father’s side was in the Army during World War 1, my grandfather on my father’s side was in the Army during World War 2 and my father was in the Air force during Vietnam. I never heard of any of them being involved with “secret societies” or agencies. My uncle on my mother’s side was in the Navy during Vietnam as well. He was the only one to my knowledge who came back completely changed from who he was.

3)  In Shadow Scorpion you mention the name of your program. What is the meaning of the program LIY-CONN/DELTA-A?

It is a genetic experimentation code under Ft Dix. Program Delta is a level of Monarch Programming. Pine Barrens is an Underground Base in the New Jersey area. Bio Weapons and chemical testing is done there.

4) Can you say a bit about how other mind control programs look like manifested in an individual with say, Alien Agenda, Genie, Green Star, Spook or Demon programming? Are these considered specific kinds of programming or general? You also mentioned having Dragonfly programming in your book. What does this mean? Do women have this programming too?

Dragonfly programming is shared equally among male and female, meaning the program is downloaded in both male and female individuals. It has nothing to do with assassination. It is an elevation of the Monarch program. It requires an energetic intensity that is rare. The Dragonfly Programming is a second level Monarch that is used in high level rituals. While the Monarch program is downloaded directly into the pineal gland the Dragonfly program is downloaded directly into the brain-stem which is reptilian in nature. The only level higher in male Monarch programs is the Scorpion Program of which I also have. The Monarch Scorpion program is almost completely male in programming usage. Hardly any females have this program and the very few that do are usually masculine natured lesbians. This scorpion program is different than the scorpion assassin program of SOES. They are two separate programs all together. (For more details on dragonfly see pages 392-393 in my book)

Monarch and female Monarch programs are vast mind control programs running today. The Monarch program is the base program first downloaded in one chosen for this specific programming. All Mind control programs are based on the 13×13 cube structure. Modern programming used to be primarily physical trauma based. But now, discovery of chemicals in foods, water, various electromagnetic fields, wireless and satellite beamed frequencies, chemtrails, is an insane way to keep the body under constant stress. It is essentially a chronic way of creating and sustaining sub level traumas. This is how they got away from the need to take people physically. The mind can be split in other ways.

Specific programming has everything to do with MK-ultra, Monarch or any kind of program where someone is specifically programmed. General programming is the educational system, medicine, entertainment, media and religion.

Genie programming, is derived from the Alladin story where the Genie, asks for 3 wishes. This kind of programming is downloaded into specific Monarchs, for purposes of an activation mode. Like the Monarch may have 3 specific gifts of the “Genie” that are used or utilized after being triggered. The Monarch program became fully activated in the late 60s early 70s, some were downloaded with a Genie subprogram. From a ritual sense, they are programmed with 3 unique qualities or abilities, geared toward specific gifts.

The Green Star programming has to do with the staged alien agenda, and off world contacts. Any type of alien agenda. The Green Star program is a multi- faceted one, where one facet promotes saviors from another star, another facet where all aliens are bad, or no aliens exist, everything about abduction. Good cop bad cop scenarios and has sublayers with New Age concepts.

In fact, the Roswell crash was staged. It was the actual staged incident that launched a global triggered awareness of UFO’s, alien abductions, etc. in the social milieu. Prior to this time, there were fewer reported UFOs and abductions. They skyrocked after the Roswell incident. It was I believe a major global triggering ritual. Greenstar programming.

 5) When did you start to discover you had been mind controlled, and how did your handlers and “agency” feel about your getting married while you still worked for them?

In 1995 I actually got married and this of course was not condoned by the agency I worked for. People in my line of work were not allowed to have affiliations like that, especially relationships. When they found out that I was going to be getting married, the head of training facility, basically the head instructor contacted me.  In my book Shadow Scorpion I gave him the name Blake.  He was usually in fairly close contact with me throughout the many years I worked for them. He would meet with me numerous times over the thirteen year period, but that particular time he met with me on the roof of a parking garage.  He told me, (and it was all a show although I didn’t realize it at the time), that the agency was not happy with my decision but because I had completed all of my missions in the past and I hadn’t let him personally down, that they were going to allow this marriage to happen. However, they were going to keep very close tabs on me and my future wife and they were going to cut all my funding. Basically a punishment thing. So I was still expected to complete missions but I had to use my own funding for the travel sources. Years later I realized and found out quite clearly that the reason they allowed me to get married had nothing to do with a forced decision that they came to but the simple fact that my wife also had her own programming issues.  Her programs actually helped to solidify and stabilize my programs.  She was actually being used as an anchor to keep me solidly anchored in the agency involvement that I was in and the program or mission work I was doing.

The bleed through memories started in 2003. Bleed throughs are memories from the sectioned off areas of your mind that begin to come through into your current daily life, into your current conscious state. They can come through in waking states as well while you’re sleeping. Reoccurring memories were coming to me with absolute perfect details and repeating in the absolute perfect way they came the first time over and over again. It wasn’t just like a dream, it was like a reality.  I could feel it on all levels of my being and I literally thought I was going crazy there for awhile.

Programs, when they are layered into the mind, take a great amount of energy from the body. Because the mind has to uphold divisions or walls in the mind to keep the programs isolated and so separated from the  conscious mind. This keeps the mind more easily controlled. When time goes on and especially in the line of work I was in, it was extremely stressful and traumatic. I have received an amazing amount of very violent injuries to my body and eventually these injuries build up, it takes dramatic amount energy to heal your body and mind. This leaves less energy for your mind to up hold the divisions and so bleed throughs happen.

Because I was having these bleed throughs, they were dramatically affecting my life. My wife is very, very intelligent and she began to see patterns. There were also a lot of things in my past that she saw in me and in my daily life that really couldn’t be explained with the knowledge banks that we had at the time. When these bleed throughs started to come through, she started to place two and two together. She started to see a picture, much deeper than I could see at the time. She told me to start writing everything down. I started a journal. I wrote everything down. I mean my journal was full; there were so many details in there.  Eventually I had enough social security numbers, addresses, phone numbers and names that I was in a position to start to look these up and started to start to cross checking them. When I was cross checking and trying to make contact anonymously I recognized voices.  I couldn’t tell the names or really understand where I recognized them from but I started to recognize voices on the other end of the phone and interestingly enough some of them recognized my voice and they knew who I was. They knew me by a variety of different names and as time went on I started to really put this web together.

In the winter of 2005 I began specialized acupuncture treatments to help me heal from all the trauma and blocked memories. I had periods of intense flooding of memories intermixed with amnesia. It was like I had never forgotten the memories in the first place. I realized who exactly I was and what I had been doing. I then began working on trying to navigate my way out.  But of course I still had missions to do still and was being given missions that I had to keep doing them with the full conscious awareness of what I was doing. And so this was a really, really rough time in my life.

There was an old man who worked deep in the agency who I had known since the training facility and if there was anyone I could trust in the training facility it was him.  In the book I dedicated an entire chapter to him and gave him the name Ammon.  He had worked almost his entire life, when I knew him he was working for the agency, had been working for different divisions of the agency, he was in his 80’s. He had been working in a number of different government agencies and begun working in them in his 20’s so literally his entire life. His specialty was bioengineering, genetic manipulation projects, biowarfare and engineering stuff. He was extremely bright and had a ton of contacts.  I made contact with him and we spoke for a while.  I actually met with him; he laid out amazing amounts of detail in a very short amount of time which helped to solidify a lot of things for me. He helped me to get into a position to get myself out, which I did by the early summer of 2005. And then the division SOES was actually being dissolved because they realized that it was too specialized. They were taking the trainings, the information, the entire structure and they were actually inserting it into a more general elite black ops assassination program. They figured it would be, I guess, more financially feasible to do this. I guess their technology and programs had advanced so that they were able to train a wider scope of people with abilities than when I went thru the training facility.

Then the head trainer Blake was moved into another department. During that time he began to skim funds from the department and he hired his own hit squad using underground rouge ex-assassins to come after me. For him it was more of a personal vendetta than anything. Because the agency itself I’m not sure, but I don’t think they had a hand in this hit. During that summer there were actually three attempted hits, obviously all of them failed because I’m still here but the last one came in October of 2005. This one almost succeeded, I lay the entire scenario out in great detail in my book Shadow Scorpion: Memoirs of an Assassin, so I’m not going to details here. But to make a long story short, I was poisoned during that attack and that poisoning put me down hard. I spent the entire winter healing, I was literally on my death bed for a lot of that winter and almost died a number of times.  So I was bedridden which was an extremely hard time. During that timeframe since I couldn’t do anything else I started to go within and tap into my childhood teaching from my teacher Meechgalanne. I started pulling out the healing techniques he taught me and started to utilize them. As the many long winter months went on high in the mountains I began to regain my strength.  By the time late spring came I was in a position to move.  And during that timeframe I was working with another Acupuncturist, someone who was absolutely exceptional.

6) Do you know the specific sounds, colors and symbols that were used to trigger you into your alter personalities? Are these similar triggers for others with other types of programming or only those with Dragonfly assassin etc.?

I would receive a Code on the phone (described in my book) code 725 Bravo– which triggered me into an altered state.  It could be repetitions or anything, a sound trigger or shown–they are layered. To be simplistic for example, a phone call, then a tone, then the tone creates a series of sub-images and color codes within the mind that unlocks the place in personalities. It could even be the TV, or an electrical outlet you sleep next to, via the wires in wall with piggybacked frequencies. Everything now is hooked up to the grid.

I had dozens and dozens of alpha level triggers and many more sub-level triggers that they could activate me with through all my senses- taste, sound, sight, touch and smell. It wasn’t just the phone–that was simply one for the example in my book.

7) What about any unusual UFO sightings, alien/ET encounters or vivid dreams of aliens BEFORE or during your training with this black op group? What about after?

I remember as a child always wanting to see a UFO but I have no recollection of ever sighting one. In Arkansas during the summer of 1999 I did see a fireball fly overhead in the night. It was about the size of a Volkswagen Beetle, but that was the only thing in the sky I ever saw that I couldn’t identify. I never had dreams before the training facility that involved “aliens” but I had many dreams with demons. These dreams occurred frequently for as long as I can remember, which is about 3 years of age. I seemed to always be “stalked” in my “dreams” by demons and demonic energies. They were always horrifying experiences that left me sweating and yelling in my bed. Of course these were dreams while others were not dreams but real experiences. I wrote this memory a couple years ago…

I awake in the dark of summer’s night

Sweat rolls down my face

Though it is cold and dank

Fear grips my heart like an iron trap

And shadows move in the dim grey light.

I am clothed but not in mine own

Cement walls tower around me like a prison

And I cower in the wet corner of this foreign space.

Where am I?

My last recall I was home in my bed

Safe in my room

Under cover and summer breeze whispering through screen.

Am I in a dream?

Have I died and gone to hell?

I hear something crawling, dragging in the dark

Feet and hands bound

Panic, on edge and frozen in time.

Vague memory flits through my head,

The sound of my window screen moving-

A sharp pain in my neck.

Movement now comes from different areas of the dark

I am not alone in hell.

Shuffling slips across dank cement

A sightless torment

Hair stands on my neck

Will I die from fear?

Contorted faces of demons approach

Closing in on me

Trapped in my corner I cannot escape.

Over and over they come,

Over and over they taunt

Till my young heart pounds like thunder.

Then the claws reveal

Tearing at my clothes that are not mine

Until I am naked.

Horrid sounds echo in my head

screeching metal

And poles strike me out of the shadows.

Screaming, panic, pain

My voice is not timid.

Calling for mother, for father

Save me from the wicked.

Their iron grips clamp down on my joints

Crushing pain racks my body.

Dragged across cement floor by my bound feet

Fighting to be free, to run.

Suspended in black air with dim grey light

Held up from my bonds by demon hands

Over inky black water.

Red gnarled faces peering up at me from this abyss

Ice runs through my veins

And paralysis takes me when I am released.

Falling into the ink

Held under forever.

Life slips from my body like ash into night’s sky.

Panic consumes all that I am.

Something slimy and long shares the abyss,

Moving, alive in this death.

My body twitches and I scream in silence

As the 7 years of my young life fade.

I become the dark, the inky blackness

Pain stops…

Then gasping in terror and agony

I am on the cement again.

Water pumped out my lungs

And demon face above me

Pale white with red eyes.

My savior?

Savior that has brought me back to hell.

Blood drips onto my face

From the smiling demon mouth.

Sharp stab in my neck…

I awake in a cold sweat in my bed

Warm summer breeze blowing through my screen

And the clock reads 4 in the morning.

My heart is cold and my hair wet,

Naked I quickly look for my pajamas

And find them neatly folded in my drawer.

My body hurts and my joints are stiff in pain.

Back in bed calling for mom,

It’s hard, my lungs are raspy

I cough as water comes out.

When she comes I cannot speak

Terror grips my voice as she comments on my sweaty hair,

But I’m not hot, I’m cold like ice

With the memory of hell branded in my mind.

I stare at the window while she hugs me

Wondering if they will come for me again.

Weeks pass and another summer night in my bed.

I awake to the white face staring down at me,

They have returned and my blood runs cold,

They have returned

The men in masks…

This is a memory that I wrote in more of a poem outline. It is a memory of one the many times I was taken out of my bedroom in the middle of the night by men in masks, brought into an underground facility and traumatized. These were not dreams but the energy of the experiences seemed to couple with the demonic energies of the “dreams”. After I left the training facility and began working as an assassin for the United States government I can recall many astral interactions that involved “other beings” that were not human in nature. After discussing such “dreams” with many people the general consensus was that those involved with these experiences were Sirians, Aldebarans, Mantis, Wasp and Ant creatures. My memories of these “dreams” are very vague and incomplete but always revolved around sorts of combat training and even rituals with astral involvements.

8) Are you aware of any unique medical issues with yourself or family? Such as allergies, extra vertebrae, ribs, Rh negative blood, extra digits or webbed fingers and toes? Or are you aware of any genetic manipulation, epi-genetic experimentation done with your mother while she was pregnant with you?

Unique is an interesting word when it comes to medical issues since the medical field is a practice and is constantly finding “new” oddities and “unique” aspects about the human body. My family through my mother’s side is riddled with allergy issues and I was no exception. When I was very young I found myself allergic to almost everything. I had asthma, severe reactions to extreme temperature shifts of hot and cold that would shut down my breathing and create full body hives. I was allergic to pollens, moulds, grasses, dust, dust mites, feathers, smoke and many foods. All dairy products were cut out of my diet because they would severely congest me. I was also allergic for a while to beef and pork as well as all preservatives. Certain basic medicines such as penicillin and aspirin I was also allergic to. Interestingly enough I “outgrew” almost all my allergies once I graduated the training facility. Today the allergy to mould remains but also I have always been allergic to silver. The more pure the silver and the more directly it comes in contact with my blood the higher and more severe the reaction.

My mother has many allergies to environmental conditions and chemical medications.

Scoliosis runs strong in both side of my family to the point of family members having to go through surgeries just to survive. I am unaware of any “extra” bones or internal anomalies in family members but that is not to say there are or are not any.

Genetic manipulation did occur through my mother to me when I was in the womb. These events mostly took place in ritualistic fashion in underground facilities connected to Fort Dix Army base in the Pine Barrens of New Jersey. The Pine Barrens are heavily laced with massive underground facilities that have major tunnel systems spreading from Maine to Virginia and out through Pennsylvania and into Ohio. A large amount of genetic experimentation projects do and have taken place in the underground of the Pine Barrens. The particular genetic project I was a part of was called LIY-CONN/DELTA-A. From my understanding the process took place over many years of my earlier life. I have been told it began with the tormenting of my developing mind and body in the womb with frequency and injections. To this day I have no idea what was in those injections. Supposedly this was one reason I was so ill as a child and had so many allergy issues. After I graduated the training facility in 1990, most of my allergies and physical issues were gone. Well, an interesting note on that was the fact that I was born with type A+ blood, but after I graduated the training facility I was tested and found to have type O+ blood. None of this was based upon one test, but rather numerous medical tests spanning many years.

Part of this genetic project was honing and developing my mind to retain its type A abilities while changing my body to become a type O system. The Type A mind is highly focused, detailed oriented, able to remember large amounts of information for years and is highly analytical in nature. The Type A mind can learn quickly by watching. The issue is that the Type A body cannot deal with stress well at all and tends to break down under stressful conditions. The Type A body is more frail and fits best with non-combative, nurturing activities. The Type O body is the opposite and lives for physical extremes and challenges. It is the Type O body that can take beating after beating and still get back up, remain strong and able to carry out whatever physical needs required of it. Interestingly enough the Type O body deals with stress by becoming aggressive and increasing strength and speed while the Type A personality deals with stress through avoidance. By combining the Type A mind with a Type O body creates the perfect individual make-up for black ops assassins and hunters. Highly detail oriented minds combined with highly powerful bodies that can keep on going no matter what.WW0079) What about genetic “frequency alteration”? What can you tell me about the wolf frequency and how you discovered you had an powerful connection with the wolf spirit?

The wolf frequency is the main frequency in which I ride through this life and it has been since birth. It runs so strong through my spirit, body and mind that I ride this frequency through many simultaneous lifelines. This just happens to be one of them. Ever since I was very young and could maintain conscious memory where I felt “wolf” and was fascinated with the wolf animal. I felt a connection, a “family” connection with the wolf species. Wolf energy filled my world and I had many things growing up with the image of the wolf upon it. My parents got a white Shephard dog when I was born. This dog was like the Cywnn Annwyn in Celtic lore with a pure white coat and pink tipped ears. He was my dog from the start and had a serious temper! There weren’t many people who we could trust around my dog because he was so protective and was known to attack viciously. Now I’m not saying he was wolf, I’m just stating his place in my life. Anyway, back to the wolf. The question isn’t when did I know my connection to the wolf but rather should be, did I ever feel like I wasn’t? The answer to that is No, I have always felt my connection to the wolf and this is because of a few reasons. The first of course is my wolf frequency connection that spans lifetimes. The next is the fact that I came into this life bearing a pure wolf frequency. Lastly, this connection has to do with genetic manipulation of the wolf frequency itself. This came into play within the LIY-CONN/DELTA-A genetic project. During my simultaneous lives in the later ages of Atlantis when genetic manipulation projects ran rampant, I was subject to those projects involving the genetic crossing of wolves and humans. This took such a deep hold because I already ran on wolf frequency, so that it remained strong through lifelines. Today in this lifeline it is no different. My handlers knew my genetics, mind patterns and frequency bearings and utilized this in the LIY-CONN/DELTA-A project. Utilizing frequency matching as well as physical alterations on a cellular level they were able to reconstruct my system to accommodate the werewolf shift. Moving on they were able to piggyback the altered wolf frequency (werewolf) onto the pure wolf frequency to attach programming and other control methods. It took me most of my life to find and figure out how to gain control of this by learning to tap into the pure wolf frequency at my core thus bypassing the werewolf frequency. I will answer more on this below.

10) Do you think that your Native American teacher Meechgalanne knew anything about your impending kidnapping and forceful black op training, or was possibly part of this program in any way?

Meechgalanne knew just about everything about me. He was an incredibly spiritually connected individual. Yes I do feel he knew I would be taken and would be forced into the training facility for highly imbalanced purposes. However, Meechgalanne was never one to interfere with the paths of others. Even if he was, I doubt he would have been able to change the course of my life. Instead he trained me with skills that have continually saved my life. Perhaps he knew they would be coming for me partly because of my skills and worked extra hard with me to hone those skills to high levels? Perhaps he knew that the very skills they would seek me out for would also save my life?

I do not feel or ever felt that he was part of the program or like I said, could have stopped anything that occurred. I do feel he did his best to prepare me for the path I was meant to walk in this life.

11) What about your parents, did they know about this secret training you were forced to participate in?

I have found embedded within their programming that some aspects of them understood at least part of it, but I have seen no conscious recollection or understanding of this hidden knowledge they bear inside. It’s a complicated mess.

12) Did any of the people in the “special training” whether they were handlers or other individuals being trained–did any of them seem familiar to you?

Only one- “Lilith” of which I will speak on in your next question…

13) You mentioned the woman named Lilith in your book. She seemed to be pretty evil by the descriptions of her behavior in your book. (Like that is an understatement right?) Did you discover any more about this woman’s origin, past or current activities?

Lilith is a “special” human who are utilized as “owners” of special projects. She is a Blue Blood and has a high level of old genetics in her bloodline that are prized by select areas of the shadow government, such as Illuminati families. I don’t recall seeing her shapeshift into a reptilian, but she could change her appearance to look quite young. He eyes could change color. At times I saw her eyes turn jet black. Yes she is evil and extremely dangerous. She was assigned to me when I was born. Supposedly a connection/bond was made between her and me when I was going through the early phases of genetic manipulations. I have no idea what her age was at that time.

I do know that her main position in life exists within special project areas inside the Central Intelligence Agency and is a main handler of genetic “projects” of which I am one. Her “job” is to monitor, manipulate and control individuals like me through frequency coding downloaded into our program matrix. She is one of the individuals who holds the specific codes to activate the werewolf frequency inside me.  I will get into more on this in your below questions.

Her original name symbolized the Queen of Babylon, Semiramus. She’s quite old. She was working for agency when I was born. Last time he saw her was in the late 90s she looked like she was in her mid 20s.

14) Did any of your handlers, programmers, trainers try to tell you that “you made an agreement” with them from before you were born in another incarnation? Or did they make statements of their ownership due to anything else like bloodline or Freemason heritage?

I was never told anything about agreements from other lives, but I was told that I was owned (like a slave) by the agency and by Lilith. Actually the agency told me that Lilith was my owner and the ownership was bonded at birth. This “ownership” seemed to have been based upon genetics and the projects rather than by bloodline or some heritage affiliations.

15)  Did your trainers ever say anything or reveal to you the nature of rituals or demonic control? Did they try to make you perform rituals or any kind of ritual sacrifice?
Yes this was another area in which Lilith was highly utilized in. I was utilized in many rituals of which began, to my memory, in the training facility. These rituals were sexual, sacrificial and demonic in nature. They were quite horrid. Everyone I can remember involved me with other women and female children. They all involved sexual acts and blood sacrifice of which I was being utilized as a tool or weapon. Lilith was always present and she was always controlling me through sounds, symbols and color codes. I remember many times the names of demons being invoked in the rituals by the surrounding individuals. The lead individuals were almost always wearing pure white and numbered at 6 and 13. I recall a 5 pointed star in almost all the rituals and it was always painted in dark red. Many, but not all of my memories within the rituals involved me having sex with the women or children and then being forced to shift into werewolf to make a kill afterwards. Like I said, these were horrible ritual events. I remember sometimes acts of torture and burning bodies as well. Yes I killed, drank blood and ate flesh in these rituals. The name Moloch and Baal came up in many of the rituals I was part of and I never remember another male participant in the ritual actions. Yes I do recall seeing men and woman in robes around the edges who were normally chanting in some language I could never understand, but I never saw another male out on the floor. I don’t much like talking about them and I find most cannot handle details, even those who have asked…

Occasionally Lilith was involved in the sexual acts but most of the time she was controlling events from the sides of the room. To her I am an abused pit-bull on a chain she holds. But her orders also come from higher places, from those who own and control her. She may be an evil piece but she is also just a playing piece.

Today the physical rituals for my part are long done, but she continues to gain access to me through dreams and astral gateways. She is still very much alive and still feels she owns me. We play a game. I block her for a while and she attempts to get through the blocks, which she has so far always managed to do with time. I have threatened to kill her some years back and since then she has never shown up physically, just in dreams and through the astral methods of which she is far superior in skill.

16) Can you say more about astral programming, and how they utilized this subtle frequency programming to aid you in your superhuman capabilities?

In the training facility I found out that the programmers do not just work through physical methods to break and program people. They also utilize frequency based technology to direct and download specific frequencies that contain information into the brain and body (organs, fascia, tendons, etc). This is quite simple today with the use of computer technology and satellites. They simply program the computer with a code that is then sent to satellites that are then directed as frequency downloads directly into the brain. But beyond the technological aspects of programming they also tap into astral energy to align the programee with such astral energies in order to train on the unseen levels. By aligning the brain and body with the astral realm  which is the realm of existence that exists between the physical reality and the spiritual reality- three layers of reality- physical- astral-spiritual) you can literally continue training 24/7. When they have you running drills in the training facility they also have part of your brain aligned with levels of the astral that they control for more subtle training experiences. Of course when I was in they utilized the use of frequencies emitted from speakers along with drugs they would place in the water. These combinations would make it easy to open select areas of the brain to astral training while the conscious aspects of the brain and body were fully engaged in the physical training at hand.

This would then roll into astral training while the left side of the brain and the body were sleeping. The left side of the brain is the logical side and must rest. The right side of the brain is non-physically oriented and never rests. This is why we are able to dream, because the right side of the brain does not shut off. So they trap the right side brain waves during sleep with specific frequencies which force it into the astral levels of reality for ongoing training. The body then follows the mind so whatever is learned through such methods of specific astral training gets physically logged into the body’s capabilities. Of course the IV’s they had in our arms when we slept to administer drugs and the frequency machines they had by our beds greatly enhanced the astral training and physical connection bridge.

The drug/frequency mix alters the central nervous system and the endocrine system, which then allows easy manipulative access to the brain and then the body. Drugs and alcohol also open the brain and body frequency waves to direct lower astral influences.

In time the body changes to accommodate this level training and then no longer requires the added chemicals and frequencies. It basically learns how to do it on its own through triggering. That way the training can continue after you leave the training facility through astral interactions. We were told that we had been prepped for this long before we ever set foot in the training facility. My feelings are they began to align us with this training method through direct, severe physical, emotional and mental trauma when we were children being taken from our beds in the middle of the night. Everything they did and do is well laid out and an ongoing process that starts from birth and just runs through preplanned phases. To the shadow government, off-world and interdimensional species this is all an exact science.

17) Can smoking pot marajuana be helpful in depgrogramming? What do you think?

If you’ve gone through specific programming before the 1980s, then drugs were probably involved. If drugs were involved physically, they were given to you to enhance a programmed aspect. Then they program in you to avoid certain foods or substances that will interfere with the specific drug frequency they programmed you with. Marajuana today is not same as old marajuana. It is genetically modified. I am not an advocate of drugs and alcohol. I avoided all drugs. Maybe it’s a part of my programming. Very little alcohol. I was told years later during healing, that the reason I had such an avoidance, was because it interferes with frequencies the alters are made up with.

18) Did you notice any unusual dreams after this training that indicated they were interfering or hacking into your consciousness to “influence and subliminally program you in any way?” (Aliens do this alot and many milabs report Virtual Reality experiences and “training” that take place in lucid dreamlike states.)

Yes this happened for many years. I would have highly realistic “dreams” that revolved around specific trainings in which my body and mind would learn so that during my waking hours I could easily perform the new tasks without ever having physically done them before. I have since learned how to block such trainings on non-physical levels.

19) How can you tell the difference between a low level dream “implant” and a dream from your “higher being, his higher consciousness”?

We can have two types of dreams: Manetuwak spirit dreams from higher consciousness. Or astral dreams. Astral dreams are manipulated dreams, they can be military, alien, government. Those kind come through the astral. These are dreams that can be hacked, lojacked. Can happen via Satellite technology. Manetuwak is a term taught to me by Meechgalanne, which means realm of pure Soul–higher self if you will. Pure spirit dreams, visions,  sometimes a replay of what you are experiencing in life, messages  of guidance, all come from higher aspect of self. They are all symbolic. Spiritual dreams are more uplifting and have a purpose that aligns with one’s higher purpose. Every night before bed I  align with my manetuwak for protection.

 20) What about shapeshifting–did you learn how to do this consciously or did this usually happen unconsciuosly. What were the triggers? 

There was a time where I could do this at will, shapeshift, but that was long ago when I was in my early teens. It was both conscious and unconscious at that time and I was never taught how, it’s just something that I could do.

21) Did Windhawk teach you how to shapeshift like some shamans can do? Usually it’s astral, but I have only heard of one case I know personally who was able to shapeshift into a dog with a group of shamans in India. It seemed to be both astral and physical, and occurred in an altered state.

No it wasn’t a taught thing, but rather an inherently known skill in me. I didn’t have to try. When it began when I was around 13, it was easy, it just happened. The actual shift wasn’t easy mind you, the shift is painful, but being able to was easy. These are physical shifts that also take place in the mind and emotions. The body shifts through a very painful physical change and the mind and emotions follow along. It’s all about matching frequency, which is all anything is, really. If you can match a frequency so perfectly, so completely you become something else. Of course genetic manipulation greatly assists this process of change and makes the shift easier to come by. If someone holds the specific frequency codes and activation triggers they can force you to shift at their will. I’ve been working for many years to identify the triggers to dissolve them in order to gain full control of this aspect of me. It’s not easy and the road is very slow. The triggers range from specific moon cycles/phases, dates, violent acts, smells, other peoples energies, etc, etc. The trick is that because to my handlers this is a weapon, a tool to them. But they took away my ability to consciously shift myself. They sealed off my access to the internal workings so that they could fully control every dynamic of my shifting. This is something I am still trying to get back.white-wolf image

Astral shifting is easy, as easy as eating pie. Nothing to it. Physical shifting is something completely different. I know there are those who can do what I can but I have yet to meet any and am told they are extremely rare to find these days.

This is also different than the all too common role-playing programming that runs rampant in the world today. This style program is downloaded into the mind and the individual thinks they are a vampire, werewolf, zombie of some other creature, but are actually not. It’s all a mind trip to trap the brain and person in a fantasy world which in turn keeps them from ever finding their true self and grasping their true purpose within this world. This is one reason there are so many movies out right now about such themes as werewolves, vampires, zombies and the like. The movies literally trigger those role-playing programs into activation in those who have that programming. You can see it all the time. It’s everywhere and yet how many reports of actual werewolf, zombie, and vampire sightings occur compared to the massive amounts of people claiming through the role-playing program to be one? It clearly does not add up… Not to mention the fact that these people are raving about being one of those creatures. They portray pride and an “I’m better than you” attitude surrounding this program. You can easily see that it is not real but rather an illusion feeding their egos. If they really knew what the reality was all about they would understand that it is no gift and the hyped up movies are all garbage.

22) Why do you think you were different than the rest of the “trainees/assassins”? In Shadow Scorpion, in one passage the handler says, “you are wild’ and unlike the rest of the ones in training there.

Different! Ha, I was just as mind controlled as everyone else there. But yes, I understand the question  Yes, in the beginning I was not as “controllable” as they would have liked because of my Native trainings through Meechgalanne. This kept me more in the right brain instead of the left brain. Programmers try to lock people in the left brain energy because the left brain is where programming takes full and complete hold. This is one reason many pre-technological cultures were not able to be programmed and fully mind controlled, because they spend most of their time in the right brain. So the shadow government targeted them for extermination through ongoing acts of genocide. “If you can’t control them, kill them.” But in time the training facility was able to break me into the left brain whenever they wished and then I was no different than other trainees.

If you get a computer right off the assembly line and you set it down there, or even when the things half way built it doesn’t do anything. You can’t type on it, there’s nothing there. So you have to program the computer before you can then use it. And so it’s the same thing, you have to program the mind with specific programs that you then intend to utilize later on. But the computer doesn’t use itself. It’s programmed and then you become its handler. You go in there and you handle it, you actually control it. You’re controlling its mind. The computers mind is its hard drive. If you erase its hard drive the computer is dead.  So the hard drive has to be programmed, that’s your brain. You as the handler, you would be a global handler and you come in and you use technology which is your keyboard or your touch screens to then go in and literally manipulate and mind control the programs that exist within that computer.

So if you put this into a brain context, and you have to ask where did the computers first come from? They come from studying the human brain. It’s a natural, biological computer. So if you put this into a human context the human brain has the right hemisphere, the left hemisphere and in the center the central endocrine gland, the pineal gland. This is the main endocrine gland which controls the hormones systems of the entire body. Your hormones dictate who you are, your actions, how you react and how you proactively respond to the stimuli of your life. You can see this very clearly in the medical field as people progress in life, their hormones change and they change. If their hormones begin producing too much of the wrong kind or not enough of the right kind they have emotional issues, they have trouble concentrating. Sometimes in extreme cases their personalities change, they become different people. They are physically capable of doing less activities, their body starts to break down and they begin to age. This is all due to the hormonal functions of the body or lack of hormonal functions of the body.  This is all controlled by the endocrine system and the pineal gland, which is part of it centered at the core of the brain.

The left aspect of the brain is a very logistical aspect of the brain. It needs to rest, it needs to sleep, it is the only part of your brain that sleeps. Because it’s all based and locked into a linear timeframe of logistics, statistics, numbers, and all this stuff. Time is located in the left side of the brain. The right side of the brain is the creative non physical aspect of the brain, more of an esoteric aspect of the brain. This is the aspect of the brain that does not sleep. This is why you dream. If your brain completely went to sleep you would never dream, it would be impossible to. The right side of the brain is responsible for the non physical aspects, the non logistical aspects; it controls your dream state which is why it never sleeps. The pineal gland balances both halves of the brain. To be able to control somebody’s mind you have to create an imbalance in it. One of the easiest and quickest ways to create imbalance in the brain is to create extreme trauma in someone’s life. In the past this extreme trauma usually came from pain. Forced drug use, torture of all different kinds, just horrific tortures.  In the old days when technology was very limited as to what we have today, during the times of MK Ultra and even into the mid to late 80’s, most programming began with physical trauma,  physical torture.  After the body has endured the torture, the mind, in order to survive, has to disassociate from the body. This aspect of the dissociation is a form of breaking. The mind is then, depending on the person and the aim of the programmers, can be shattered. When this happens it’s an energetic shattering so that the mind is not communicating with itself like it used to.  And then what can happen is through frequency waves walls, frequency walls can be placed between these separated parts of the brain isolating them from each other so they cannot come back to unification. Once this happens you can actually download with frequency specific programs into each segment of the brain. This is how programming works. And then from there triggers, these can be words, phrases, numbers, dates, colors, sounds, smells, you name it anything can be a trigger. Select triggers for that specific program are downloaded into that area of the mind as well. Therefore, when a handler wants to invoke that programmed aspect of that person and bring it into the conscious awareness, they activate the person via triggers to be manipulated to do various tasks. These triggers will then activate that program and bring it into the conscious state. But if these triggers are not utilized that aspect of the brain is still sleeping.  So it’s like again, the left side of the brain sleeping at night.  So this side of the brain is programmed such that if it’s not being utilized it is sleeping.

 23) I also remember how the trainer said one has to have a “perfect split/dissociation” and unaware host consciousness while an alter personality had been “injured” or performing some programmed activity. Then when your “core personality consciousness” switched back into the body, they would not return with the injuries(or memory) the alter had just sustained moments ago. Do you understand this and did this happen to you, where you were previously injured, but then “miraculously” healed when you returned to your “normal personality”?

Ahh a good question. Yes in a perfect alter split an injury can occur which is recognized by the alter mind only. When the individual is switched back into another level of their consciousness that section of their mind has no recollection of the injury and so the body does not register what the mind does not remember. We must remember that our body is a product of our mind. The body runs because the nerves run on electrical impulses in the brain, which tell the body what to do and feel. If you can block off areas of the mind and literally control it-tell it what is real and what is not, then you can also control the body. It’s all based upon the electricity of the nervous system. Control that and you control the body. Of course it has to be absolute control or it doesn’t work because the mind doesn’t believe you.

In the beginning this was difficult for me because my mind was not splitting as they wished it to. So if I received an injury part of the injury would remain when I was flipped back into a conscious awareness that didn’t, or wasn’t supposed to remember the event that caused the injury. However, like I said this was “fixed” and then injuries were not registering because the split had become fully conditioned.

As the years have gone by and I have reclaimed many areas of my mind I would have injuries show up that were locked inside that section of my mind. Of course because time does pass, all of the injuries had at least partially healed, if not completely. My wife saw many times, as we were sitting on a couch after I had done some deep merging work and literally watched a scar form on my body. Just like that and seemingly out of the blue–one second no mark or injury and then next moment there it was.

Another aspect was the fact that in the training facility we would sleep in the medical ward and they would work on us as we slept, or were rendered unconscious. That means that injuries obtained in the training facility were healed through technological methods as we “slept”. This is why we always awoke refreshed and ready to go after the most brutal training sessions. So the injuries and scars that showed up on my body over the years of self healing work were from mission work and not from the training facility.

24) Have you ever later met any individuals who were part of this training later in life? What about others who have had similar experiences but not in that particular program?

The only people I met from my division were the ones sent to kill me after I had broken out of mission work. The other was my nurse who in my book Shadow Scorpion I called Kira. I also explain in my book when, why and how this meeting occurred. She is the reason I have in my possession a few hard copies of my internal medical/training files.

Other than this I have only met two others who had come out of some covert program based upon black ops military or agency work. Both of them were from other countries though. The sad fact is that most of us who come from such programs do not survive the work or do not survive getting out. An internal CIA statistical fact is that only 1% of all trained assassins make it out and live. The rest either die in the line of duty, get killed trying to “get out” or end up committing suicide afterwards. Those of us who do get out and survive are always hunted and attacked from whatever angles are available. The ancient code of the shadow government since assassins were created is simple- “Assassinate the assassin”. We see this happen all the time in the news. The most recent was the shooting of Chris Kyle who was the author of the bestselling book called American Sniper. Attempts on my life have been happening since I got out. It’s a foul and dangerous game. The fact is that ex-assassins are never left alone. To the shadow government we are owned slaves who can never be free and never be trusted. To them we are red targets and they never turn a blind eye. They hunt always and so the few of us who get out must remain ever vigilant and do our deeper work so at least our minds can become free.

In the past they tried through physical methods but in recent years they lean heavily towards energy attacks. Most recently I was intentionally infected with a man-made virus that could not be “identified” through blood testing. I fought for months to get clear of that virus and it literally almost claimed my life a few times. This is unfortunate and serious business.

I have found high quality and highly skilled people who have become my “elite” support group and work with high level protection and healing with me. Nobody can do this alone and survive-nobody.

25)How did you start your healing process? What was the most important healing method, healer or anything you did that really helped you?

My healing process began when I was poisoned by the agency with a hybrid form of arsenic in Autumn of 2005. As I lay in bed that whole winter trying to survive I had nothing else to do but start to go within my mind. It was there that I began to find and rediscover the old spiritual and self-healing techniques that Meechgalanne taught me as a child. I started working with color and sound to heal my organs. I also began working with geometric shapes aligned with specific colors to protect and heal myself. It was during that winter I realigned myself with my Sacred Allies of the animal, plant, mineral kingdoms as well as element, direction and season. They assisted me greatly in my healing. This combined with the use of acupuncture, North American herbs, massage therapy, visceral manipulation work, Sacred Energy Movement, Cranial-Sacral work and my own in-depth studies on the healing methods of proper diet, supplements, lifestyle, meditation, Eagle Mind work and inner spiritual practices all greatly assisted me and continue to assist me along my ongoing self healing path.

The simplicity of it was rooted in my childhood teachings through Meechgalanne and the natural world around me. It was there that this energy flow within me began and it was there that I found myself returning when I was knocking on deaths door. These old ways literally saved my life. I simply combined acupuncture and all manner of other healing modalities with what I already knew.

Since that time I have come across many wonderful energy workers, healing intuitive and holistic healing practitioners that have assisted me in their own fashion. It was never just one thing or one modality. It has been a vast and complex combination of efforts and the healing continues and will always continue through my life. It works but that is because it has become a way of life. Much of what I speak of above I teach today through Ways Of The Wild Institute–as far as what I was taught by Meechgalanne and discovered through my own self healing path.

26) I noticed you used some symbols for protection over certain chakras. Where did these healing and protection symbols come from?

These symbols and colors came to me from Meechgalanne but I always found it fascinating that I also found some but not all of these symbols in the training facility lessons and through other healing, intuitive and energy workers around the world. To me this confirmed their authenticity and natural place in the world.

 27) What about the 11 Universal Principles that are mentioned in the Eagle Mind DVD set, where did you hear this from? (Usually we are only familiar with the Law Of Attraction, but apparently there are many more laws)

Meechgalanne always spoke of the Universal Laws. I have known them since I was a child. It has just been common knowledge in my life. Of course practicing them and embracing them is a constant challenge 

 28) What would you tell anyone who is in such a program or believes they were/are part of such a shadow government program if they are seeking healing and awareness?

In a nutshell:

1-begin researching

2-question everything!

3-get a support group

4-go slow and easy

5-start documenting in notebooks everything

6-cross-check everything you can

7-find healing modalities that work for you (not all of them will)

8- commit to a lifelong process and be 100% diligent and sincere about it

White Wolf with Bow and Arrow

White Wolf with Bow and Arrow

First of all, we have to understand that the people who are running this twisted show are programmed and mind controlled themselves. Like I said, there is a very, very small number of individual belonging to a very Elite Bloodline Family who run the entire world. Everybody else who works for them is controlled and it’s on a need to know basis. Which means big dog number one who sits in the Elite family isn’t controlling 10,000 people on this side of the world. No, they dictate a specific set of duties to this guy and then this guy spans out and dictates to a specific set of people and it continues to down in a chain of reaction. And so yes, everybody is under their own level of programming and control. A lot of these people who are working in deep levels of these agencies are not aware of what’s going on at higher levels.  They have no awareness whatsoever. Because inside, if you don’t have clearance to access these files then you are not going to even know they exist. This is why governments and militaries are structured as a need to know basis. And this is how they keep things flowing smoothly.

The human mind is only capable of so much. Sometimes it breaks. And when it breaks, a flood of information comes out and people start to question dramatically what the hell’s is going on. These are the people who start getting out. Those who are successful, like myself begin to spread the information, begin to tell their personal stories from their perspectives. And this is how the inside information has gotten out and spread around on a global scale. Yes, of course you have had people who have had absolutely no affiliation with these projects who are reposting and spreading this information, and even talking about this information on a global scale, but it’s the few who actually come out of these projects, who made it out of these projects like myself and began to talk about this stuff. This is where this information has originally come from. That doesn’t mean it’s our information and we’re privy to some kind of idol spotlight because we are not. But for us to understand how this information comes around we have to look at the structure.

People who are very deep inside under extremely heavy control structures where something happened, their programming falters, they realized what was going on and they had the strength, the resources and enough help to get out. But you can’t do this alone to get out. So people who look at this information that’s being spread all over and say, “where did this come from?.”  For example, I’m looking at this guy who’s telling me about this information and I went to college with the guy. He was never involved in anything and here he’s telling me about mind control and programming. Here’s another guy that I went to elementary school with and I’ve known him my entire life, you know we’ve been buddies and he’s never been involved in any of these projects and here he’s talking to me about Greenstar programming, Alien invasion scenario’s and stuff. Why should I believe this?   Because I know you through and through buddy and we’ve been together and you’ve never been a part of this stuff so what’s the deal?  Where is this information coming from?”  This is where this information comes from. And this is how we have to also be very careful going global from people who have not been in these programs, who have not been in these agencies because information gets twisted. It’s like playing that game when we were kids. You all sit in a circle and one person whispers something in another person’s ear and then they are supposed to whisper that in the person’s next to them continuing around the circle. Well, by the time it gets to the first person the message is usually completely different. It doesn’t even resemble what it started to be. So when you’re listening to information, when you’re reading information, when you’re viewing information question it’s source. Who is telling you it, where have they been? I tell information from my experiences and my perspective only. I cannot tell from another person’s experiences, their personal perspective. I have never lived their experiences; I have never lived their perspective. I only know mine; I know where I’ve been. I have got files from inside the agency, I’ve got photographs of implants inside my body, I’ve got scars from head to toe, I’ve got skills and knowledge that you cannot possibly gain from reading books on this subject. This is why I have an entire school, I teach this stuff.  Because I know what I’m talking about because I lived it.  So question the information you hear, even though you want to know the truth you’ve got to be careful where you are looking for it.  Now this comes back to your question that you just asked me.
A lot of people are scared and rightfully so because the big picture is not pretty, it is an ugly scene. However, if we don’t stand up and look at it we will never have a chance at changing it. A lot of people are scared simply because they understand that there are a lot of charlatans out there. There are a lot of people who purposely spread lies and disinformation. And a lot of people have been hurt by these people’s ways and methods. They have lost lots of money, they have lost face, they have lost family, they have lost a lot to these idiots that are out there who are spreading all these rumors and lies. So yes, you have got to be very careful where your getting your information from.  And so it is a very frightening world and so what I like to do, is show people that there still is a very beautiful side, a very pure side which is why I do a lot of my work with the wilderness, with nature, with the plants, with the animals, with the elements and directions and tap into the spirituality.

I have no religion; religion in itself is mind control because it dictates what you believe and how you follow along with the orders of religion itself. We have to all stand up to our fears. If I didn’t’ stand up to the fears that I’ve had I would never have attained the position in life that I have attained today. Because only through facing our fears can we overcome our fears and can we learn that within the fears there is actually deeper knowledge that shows us very clearly that there is really nothing to fear. It’s the illusions and the unknown that we, as a human species, fear more than anything. Once you get the knowledge and you learn how to use that you no longer have a fear of that because you gain a level of self-control. Not control over another, self-control. When you lose control it means that you don’t know. You don’t have an understanding, you don’t have the knowledge banks and therefore you’re easily manipulated and controlled. So yes, we all need to study but to study we need to first face our fears and accept that yes, the world is not as we might hope it to be, it is a control structure and there is a lot of hidden stuff. Anybody listens to this, reads this, who looks at this, reads this, listens to this and still wants to try and debunk it and say “well this is all just B.S.” Just look what is right under your nose. Look at the taxes you’re paying and try to trace it back to see who is getting that money? And how much of your taxes you’re getting back in way of public services? Very little. I don’t’ care where you live.    You look at the school systems, you look at what they are teaching the kids and how they are teaching the kids to think. Look at the technology and what it’s doing to people.  It’s creating people who have very little attention spans. They can’t focus on something for more than a few seconds without being distracted onto something else. And what are we doing? Oh that’s right, we’re creating technology to appease to younger and younger and younger age groups. You see two-year-olds in front of computers and video games and all these mind numbing technology screen pads; I-phone apparatus’ and all this other crazy stuff.  Removing people from thinking for themselves, removing people from a reality and moving them into a virtual world which is easy to control. Look at how much stuff is being put into foods on a global scale, we’re just poisoning people. This is medical and statistical fact that cannot be denied unless you simply want to look at yourself in the mirror and right out lie to yourself. This stuff is real.

When you go out and you eat McDonalds over and over and over and you sit down and you watch your computer screen for hours a day or you sit and watch your television for hours a day, you’re going to get fat, you’re going to get unhealthy, you’re going to feel terrible. And the people that do this, they know that and yet they continue to do this because they continue to lie to themselves. But you can’t lie to the world; you can only lie to yourselves. Everybody else sees it, they see you and they say “wow, I used to know you when you had a lot of energy and you were thin and active. Now look at you.  What happened?” And you can always trace it back to what they’ve been doing. They have been engaging in the non-beneficial, manipulative, ongoing, ever growing social control structure. The medical reports are out there, “Vaccinations are bad” and yet they continue to push them, push more and more vaccinations on young people. And what are what are they doing?  Well, these young people are getting all kinds of problems when they grow up and again medical facts; reports have been done and shown the connection between these vaccinations or chemicals in the water and all this other stuff. It’s out there. The reality, the truth is there. Anybody who doesn’t want to believe it, doesn’t want to see it is simply lying to themselves. They’re simply closing their eyes with shutters, and locking themselves in the closet and if that’s where they want to stay, then that’s their choice. They have to make their choice; they have to make their lives. Nobody can do it for them. And nobody should judge another that does nothing. It’s simply a waste of energy and time. All that we can do is hope that one day they will feel that pain enough inside them; they will feel that emptiness enough inside them that they will open the blinds and see what’s there and what they can do about it.

So yes, looking at reality is a scary thing but once you can get past it you embrace an amazing path of self transformation and self healing. And this is really what I did. I started to have the bleed troughs, I thought I was going crazy, I started to have the memories come back in, I started to cross check people and numbers, and I started to talk to people, they started to confirm information.  The pieces came together.  I started to do my healing work.  I started to put together huge pieces of the puzzle a lot of the missing links began to fill in. And I faced it, I didn’t stop, I was extremely persistent with it. But that’s just part of my personality, a fiery, go-getter. If I see something that is beneficial for me I will put all my energy into it. And this is what I did. It is not an easy path, it is a difficult path, it is painful, it is hard, it is emotionally wrenching but what else is there? Otherwise you have a numb, controlled state of life. Now what kind of life is that?

So, really this has been my path ever since I’ve gotten out of the government, and this will continue to be my path for the rest of my life and yes, I have attained a much better quality of life. I have faced myself, I continue to face myself and I do my work. And I try to attain a level of neutrality, non-judgmental. I try to attain a level of personal integrity and stick to it and not be swayed by everything else out there. I study what’s out there; I study what’s out there in order for it not to move me. I study the manipulation ways, I study what they’re doing and why they are doing it and what they hope to achieve by doing it.  I will continue to do my work.  And yes I have a really good life right now and I can’t complain about it at all. Yes, I’m still trying to physically heal; I go through great bouts of pain.  A lot of the time I still have a lot of emotional stresses that come up.  Many times controllers via satellites try to activate the implants in my body, of which some can be seen on my x-rays and this can create havoc with my endocrine system, my nervous system, and the flow of certain meridians in my body.  Still I have very non-beneficial astral interactions at night. I already mentioned Lilith, but she is not the only handler I have had or continues to try accessing me. So there are a lot of facets that I work though. I still have the unfortunate reality of my life that I go through psychic attacks, physical viral attacks, astral attacks; I haven’t had physical attacks sent my way for well over a year now. But there is always that possibility as well. I have to be extremely diligent with my protection work, with my energy protection, my training and work because I know where I come from, I know what I know and I know the people who know what I know and so I have to be very cautious at all times. I make sure that none of my decisions are rash. I make sure that I think through my decisions thoroughly. This is a way of life, it’s not paranoia it’s an absolute necessity.

29) How can therapists who work with such mind control survivors, protect themselves from any fallout and reprisals?

This is tricky because I have met zero mainstream therapists who have any clue about this reality that spans the globe. They are mind controlled themselves. However, the very few who are awake and trying to help people coming out of programs need to be extremely careful and the first step in being careful is to do the research! They need to be extra diligent in taking loads of time and energy into researching the facts about programming and mind control. No therapist can hope to do any good at all if they have no clue what is happening, where it comes from, how old it is, why it occurs, to whom, etc, etc. Research–and a ton of it–is the first essential step. The next is doing their own work because nobody is exempt from the control methods of the world right now–nobody and if you are not doing your own work you are part of the problem. After that process has begun and is well in the works, it is essential to learn energy protection techniques as well as physical self-defense methods to deal with potential activations of violent alters within clients.

Now beyond this, the question leads to fallout and reprisals from the organizations that are in control of these mind control projects. This is a different story altogether and much higher on the danger level. If you are working to help people get out of projects controlled by the shadow government you will automatically become a target. This is something any therapist has to come to terms with before they begin. It becomes essential to learn high level energy protection methods as well as working on their own mind patterns to remove victim energy that can draw attacks. There are many methods of energy protection, many, many that work to various degrees. The extent as to which level they work on through protection depends upon the quality of technique but also who the individual is trying to use it. Some low level targets can use an energy protection technique with great success but a high level target may have hit or miss success with the same technique. For example, the energy protection technique I presented on Off Planet Radio is a high level technique for energy protection. However, its high quality frequency works as a general level defense for general level attacks. That means it is not specialized to an individual or a target specific attack. Yes, it does work in certain circumstances, but it will need tweaking to accommodate specific level attacks for certain individuals. This is an important point to remember–people need to seek out qualified, energy protection practitioners to assist them in devising specialized techniques for protecting the self. I say this because you need to understand the origins of the attacks, the methods used, the angles employed, what weaknesses are being targeted and other key details to most successfully create a proper energy defense. You cannot just throw any old thing up and hope it works. People need to understand their own weaknesses before they start helping others with theirs.

It’s not an easy game and it has no cut and dry answers.

30) Do you believe in or use spirit releasement, soul retrieval or exorcism as a method to remove any demonic attachments or dark energies/entities?

The removal of demonic attachments is tricky. The one thing many people do not realize or understand is that if a demonic entity has attached itself to a person it means that on a spirit level that entity is part of the “whole” energy of that individual as they have come out of the “Great Spirit”. In other words, an entity cannot attach itself to a person that it does not share a frequency alignment with. Meechgalanne called this level of energy the Manetuwak. Today people call it the Oversoul, Complete Self, High Self, etc. This is the energy compilation of aligned frequency groups of creatures out of the source of life. Everything has a Manetuwak that it comes out of and returns to. We share our Manetuwak with countless other creatures. This means on all levels of existence mind you. So if someone has an attachment the first thing that needs to be done, or should be done is to see what non-beneficial mind patterns and programs are allowing the attachment. Attachments cannot occur unless somewhere in the mind of the host there is something allowing it.

Any techniques used in breaking the attachment must include the weeding out of this inner calling for the attachment and thus the frequency alignment with the attachment. Only from starting at the core level of internal work and attachment can the method for detachment be successful. Many forms of exorcism and other banishing rituals work from outside sources.

I find that working with the mind patterns (Eagle Mind) of the individual combined with energy work and higher work within the silver level of their Manetuwak with their expressed permission, has high level beneficial results.

I do not believe the soul can be broken and separated. Soul retrieval to my understanding, is a New Age Programming function. Your soul is your soul and can never be separate from you or broken and scattered about. Things can be attached to it, but the soul is always whole. It is only an illusion that the soul is broken.

32) Have you ever seen or had any encounters or abduction by any aliens, ETs or interdimensional entities after being in this black op program? Do you think there is any connection with some of these non human intelligent beings and the ones in control of the blackop programs you were involved in?

The only non-human beings that I ever saw or had encounters with were reptilians and very few at that. They were at times present in rituals, but beyond that and occasional interactions with them in the dreamstate, I have not had other encounters. I never experienced any abductions alien in nature and have never even seen a UFO. In the dreamstate I have encountered Reptilians, Sirians, Aldebarans and insect like creatures, but not in waking reality.

However, I do feel that many of the high level intelligence off-world and interdimensional beings work directly with the shadow government and control many factions of it. I feel there are many others who are much more aware and highly knowledgeable of such matters than I. I feel my knowledge of such areas is quite basic, even though many tell me they feel otherwise. Sorry I can’t elaborate more on this topic.

32) What do you think are the largest obstacles in the alternative healing community and media when it comes to the experiences and material you have shared?

The truth. Yes I would have to say the Truth above all else because within the acceptance of truth you must also face a pain that nobody wishes to see. It’s a pain knowing the world isn’t as we are led to believe and that our lives are not really ours. People want to believe they are free and that their lives and their minds are their own, controlled by nobody else. People want to look at what they have been taught and say that it is all true and that the modern civilization, the modern government, military, corporations, banks and so on are working in our best interest. People want to believe “Hell” is somewhere else and that the righteous always prevail and evil is always vanquished. But that isn’t exactly truth now is it? Accepting the Truth means that we must also accept that we all have a ton of self-healing work to do and that means facing the demons of the night and day. That means we can no longer turn a blind eye and pretend in fairytales. How many people are ready to step out of the false dream world of lala-land and into the truth of our reality here upon this earth?

Even for a therapist to face the client’s life and the deep issues of potential mind control, ritual abuse and so on, requires us to believe in the truth, which always leads us down the dark winding paths of the realities of this world.

The media and healing community responds to the truth with fear. This fear then manifests into ego and away the twisted line of disinformation runs- many times doing far more damage than not. Fame, money, glory, who said what “first”…ego, ego and more ego. This continues to perpetuate the left brain lock-in that I spoke of above.

It is brutal but it’s not hopeless. People want a level of security that they are in control of their own lives, they are in control of their own minds and that everything they do they have decided to do from their own free will. Unfortunately in today’s world this is not the case, not unless you are going through some really personal deep healing to get yourself out of the control system, which I teach people how to do. But if you’re not doing your work you are part of the control system. And if you are not doing your work you are feeding the system that is controlling and dominating every facet of the world.

More and more people that I have noticed are indeed beginning to wake up and realize these truths. A great many of them are beginning to do their self work which some call deprogramming work.This is a good thing. And even though if things are left to run as is and as has been, yes, the future is not pleasant to look at or to even think about. However, there are many organizations within the government and even within the elite agencies who have begun to turn against the global agendas, turn against the global handlers, turn against the Illuminati factions, turn against the shadow government and they are working against them in a very real way and they are making progress. You know it ebbs and flows. There’s a tide to it. Sometimes they seem to make great strides in their progress and sometimes it’s very minuscule comparatively speaking. But indeed these organizations are starting to come forward and starting to present information that was never meant to be presented by the government. They are coming forward and beginning to take out key players which are beginning to start disruption amongst the elite, which is a very promising thing. Also the fact that so many people are starting to wake up from this illusionary programmed dream that most of the masses have lived and their beginning to see the reality of this world. They are beginning to embrace their own healing work. This to me, this is hope; this is hope for the future. The more people that do this the better our future looks, the better our children’s future looks. But this pace needs to quicken. It is happening but it is rather slow comparatively speaking.

The Global Agendas have been set for a very long time.  Many of these global agendas that have been set for a very long time are very close to coming to conclusion however. I can say that some of these major global agendas that have been set for conclusion are way behind schedule. They were set for conclusion back around the turn of millennia, around 2000, 2003.  They still have not come to full fruition, they are still struggling to get those agendas out fully and implement them fully. So even though things are rolling in a very negative way and there’s a very heavy chunk of the future that definitely looks unpleasant, there is progress being made by a number of factions and great many individuals worldwide because they are doing their personal work.  Because they have stepped up to the plate said, “yes my life is not as I though it should be, yes I have been controlled and manipulated in my life, yes I understand that because I have weaknesses–as we all do–that have been exploited and used against us. Yes I understand I need to step up to the plate and take full responsibility for all of my actions, all of my thoughts, all of emotions, and in so doing, embrace my healing path and make changes that I see fit.”  Until everybody starts to do this the agendas will continue to move forward. But the more people who create organizations or come out of organizations and create sub organizations within the main hub organizations of the government to work against the agendas, until this happens, nothing will change. This is the hope that we have as a human species.fire-me_nWW

EL: I want to thank you White Wolf, for sharing so much about your own experiences and continued healing journey. I agree that we all need to take personal responsibility, to be humble enough to take these steps towards healing and personal growth. I am honored you are sharing such valuable information with me and others reading this interview.

For more information on White Wolf Von Atzingen’s school and his web site go to:

Ways Of The Wild Institute-

Element Mountain

http://elementmountain.com

Small Circles of 5 Animals Jujitsu: http://www.smallcirclesof5animalsjujitsu.com

More about me: http://elementmountain.com/about-white-wolf/

Shadow Scorpion book link: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/76405

(that is the newest edition of 2015)

Other e-books by WW: https://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/WhiteWolfVon

 

Video links:

Philosophy of Happiness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7kolV0H5aE

Survival Combat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65lDf2mxZMw

Knife Solo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65lDf2mxZMw

 

Knife Throwing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMK5WMwdpUE

 

Chaga Hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42-zuj-5T6g

Shadow Scorpion Book Link: http://store.waysofthewildinstitute.com/shadow-scorpion-3rd-edition/

Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQknwSL6UBo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omaGCr9_dYo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgNm21ZvaQ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8v45s0996I