James Bartley on MILABs, Reptilians: Interview with Lorien Fenton on Revolution Radio

This is a link to the latest blogtalk interview James Bartley did on Lorien Fenton’s “Fenton Perspective” show July 5, 2013.  He discusses some of the inner dynamics of Milab Mind Control including the mind control exerted upon sleeping milabs. James also discusses the Hybrid Lycan Operatives used by the military…yes literal werewolf/wolfmen some of whom actually speak english and probably other languages and who wear military uniforms. They exist. These entities have been reported for some time at least as far back as the early 1990s but there seems to be an upsurge in reported sightings. I’ve spoken to a number of milabs who have encountered these wolfmen “Lycans.”

Remember the interview also with White Wolf Von Atizingen who has had shapeshifting were wolf experiences within the milab/mind control/occult environment. (http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/white-wolf-von-atzingen-interview/)

James Bartley on Revolution Radio with Lorien Fenton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TT6IL7W_tw&feature=c4-overview&list=UU4qEAWgw_TY9ITV9gsjbPeg

 

Alien Jigsaw Website Back Online

Here are some pertinent links that have been re-instated on the Alien Jigsaw Website. For a while it was down due to a “cyber stalking harassment” issue. So here are some good updates on Flouresence Markings in Alien Abduction Cases, and Steve Colbern’s (Associate of Dr. Roger Leir) work on alien implant analysis. Also included is a link for the best of Dr. Karla Turner’s research, and the Milab’s article below.

Links to Alien Jigsaw: Milabs-A Pandora’s Box interview with a Female Milab:

http://alienjigsaw.com/Eve_Lorgens_Research.html

Updated Fluorescence Article and Photos of Alien Abductees:

http://alienjigsaw.com/Evidence_For_Alien_Abduction_Fluorescence_Body_Marks.html

Steve Colbern’s Research site on Alien Implants Analysis:

http://alienevidenceinc.webs.com/

The Best of Dr.Karla Turners Alien Abduction Research

http://alienjigsaw.com/Karla_Turners_Research.html

 

Spiritual Community Targeted by Demons Masquerading as ET Walk-ins

By Eve Lorgen, MA

Elizabeth, a mother of three working in the professional education field for over 25 years  and living in Southeastern US, created a spirituality based discussion group in her local community in 2011. Through this spirituality oriented group she eventually met a man we will call “Mr. X”. He presented himself as a spiritual lightworker, healer-guru who made claims to having contacts with advanced, positive extraterrestrials and higher dimensional beings. Mr. X emanated a charismatic and mysterious presence, with a fascinating background of military intelligence black operations, and claimed that the military used him in black projects because of his propensity for psychic abilities such as remote viewing. As time went on and Mr. X carried out his “healing and metaphysical teaching” agenda, several red flags arose regarding his true intentions. This involved testing others for their psychic abilities, spying on them, preparing them for ET walk-in entities to possess their bodies, and psychic vampirism. His ultimate goal seemed to be to facilitate others to become hosts for these alleged ET walk-in “starbeings” all the while manipulating and feeding on other’s life force energies. He also wanted others to help invoke and bring in larger numbers of these interdimensional entities via portals and wormholes created through specific occultic exercises.

This interview is a good expose on how to discern true spiritual integrity of self proclaimed ET walk-ins and other channelled entities. These deceptions and masquerades are not limited to the New Age movement however, and I have observed this to happen with other self proclaimed gurus, ministers and preachers. The whole idea is to be able to discern the energetic signature of such a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” whatever their race, gender or spiritual-religious orientation. The qualities of such “hosts” from a love relationship perspective is more elaborated on in my “Dark Side of Cupid: Love Affairs The Supernatural and Energy Vampirism” book. (Keyhole Publishing, 2012)

Transcription: Elizabeth and David’s experience with Mr. “X”.

Elizabeth: Thanks for giving us the opportunity to talk with you and share our story. Mr. X came across my path in the fall of 2011. I’ve been living in a mountain community in the Southeastern, USA. I started a metaphysical group here, focusing on things like like sustainable living, healing, spirituality, prepping, alternative healing and that sort of thing. I ran an add in a local paper and Mr. X responded to the add and called me. He came out to meet me and said he had similar interests and wanted to meet me again to ask some questions about our group and that sort of thing. We talked about organic farming, green living, metaphysics, Reiki healing, alternative healing, getting back to nature, and that kind of thing. The majority of people were from many religious/spiritual backgrounds.

Eve: How did the subject get introduced of ETs, UFOs and ET Walk-ins with Mr X, how did he move in on that subject?

Initially he spent alot of time talking with me and sharing his background. After several phone conversations he asked if he could meet me. So he came out and met me and my family at my mountain home. He told me he had been in the military for many years since a young man. He was in his late 50’s when I met him. He served about 20 years and during that time period he was “discovered” by the military because he had natural psychic abilities. He was able to foresee ahead on reconaissance missions. He was recruited and sent to Langley (CIA Headquarters, VA) and trained as a remote viewer.  In the late 70’s and early 80’s. At that time he said the government was very interested in people who had natural psychic gifts and were working with these people to remote view people, target specific leaders and places overseas. He said he was sent to different military bases here and abroad and he would RV specific targets on behalf of the government. He did mention that he did work for the NSA and was involved in special projects they were working on. He had alot of military background experience in the Army basically. He went in as an enlisted soldier but once his gifts were discovered he was placed in other departments. And then used for special ops using remote viewing skills and other things.

Eve: Did he ever show you his abilities what he could do, did you ever see a demonstration of his abilities?

Elizabeth: Well he gave us info and again this was after the events occurred. He told about the Space Shuttle disaster in the early 90’s that he remote viewed ,911–where he RV’d some event with the twin towers in NYC, and smaller events like plane crashings, hijackings in the 80’s & 90’s related to terrorist activity.

Eve: Did he ever remote view you or was he very accurate?

Elizabeth: Well, as we got to know him better we were able to see. Because he lived about an hour away, we spent alot of hours on the phone. Sometimes he would specifically tell me what I was doing or could see what I was wearing. Or other members of my family. He also said that his work expanded beyond the military. After he was doing enlisted work he was involved  in transporting craft from ETs, like crash recoveries. Bits of things that were found in this country and taking them to Wright Patterson AFB in the midwest and basically dropping these things off and went to Area 51, transporting goods and things that were part of ET craft.

EL: Was he retired from the regular military at that time?

Elizabeth: He said he was doing contract work at that time. He went on later to explain, an elaborate story, about things he experienced at Area 51. Interesting as he was doing the transport work, driving things. Then he would stay there, and he would wander around the facility. In one of the areas at Area 51, he said there were hangars where there were full ET craft. He said that these craft were inoperable in that we didn’t know how to operate them. One of the stories he told us was that he could decipher ET writing.

Eve: How did that happen? Did he meet any ETs in these places?

Elizabeth: Well, previous to that he said he had Pleidian hybrid strandings mixed with his own DNA. And though he was human, he also attributed his special talents, like telekinesis and remote viewing, these gifts were a result of the Pleidian strandings that he was born with. And he was from a psychic family and had other family members who had psychic abilities.

EL: Did he ever remember an alien abduction or contacts as as child?

Elizabeth: He didn’t talk about that so much. He said both parents were Andromedan and that he was sort of a mix of Andromedan and Pleidian. I can’t go into specifics but he said his family was of a hybrid type bloodline.

Eve: Did he have any unusual characteristics that you think would set him off as being unusual or strange?

Elizabeth:  He was really really tall. He was almost 7 foot tall.

Eve: Did his eyes ever change like a slit iris. Did you ever see anything unusual with his eyes?

Elizabeth: Yes the first time I met him, we were in a public place. I noticed when I looked at him, his eyes looked black. He has Latin American ancestry, and so he has dark hair and brown eyes, slightly darker skin. In this case the eyes were so dark you couldn’t see a pupil in them. I sensed there was a shield or coating over his eyes. After a while we talked, after he felt I was a safe person to talk to, he suddenly dropped his head and shook it, and the shielding over his eyes changed. Gone. Then he had a normal brown color of eye, it was no longer black shield over his eyes.

Eve: What kind of work did he start doing with you and your group like healings, trainings or remote viewings?

Elizabeth:  What happened was that as he got to know me better, I introduced him to my son and other members in the group who were interested in different spiritual and metaphysical topics. A few folks asked if they could meet him. He said part of his mission here on Earth was to do healing work with people and he said he had alot of previous experience in another southern metro area where he started a large metaphysical group involved with many people doing that sort of thing.

One of the women in our group was involved in doing healing here in this local area and was interested in learning form Mr X. I was doing Reiki and so he was interested in sharing what he knew with us and maybe even getting involved in assisting us with our healing work here.

David: This is where I come in the story. I met him for first time in the mountains and was encouraged by my Mom and him to come back here. I was living in another state at the time and just visiting. He suggested that I come move out here, and that if I didn’t something dangerous or bad could happen out where I was currently living. Like a psychic premonition of sorts. The first healing we did, a friend, my Mom, another man and Mr. X were all together. He proceeded to do a healing over this man. His modality was nothing I’ve seen before, not like Reiki or massage. I had learned Reiki. He would do this thing and stand over the body and run his fingers over the body like he was tinkering with the body. It was all energetic, no touching, no major contact. He would be hovering over the body, diddling his fingers, moving or manipulating energy. But towards the end of the healing he would go into a sort of trance like state, and saying he was going to call forth such and such a spirit. Then he went into this thing where he started to weep a little bit, and was saying he was feeling the pain of the Earth and so on. To me it was a little chauvinistic and taking this guys healing and using it, and taking it like his “coming out” or trying to reveal himself or the figure he was supposed to be. I didn’t really think about it at the time. My guard was down at the time. But he was definitely trying to introduce himself as a kind of powerful spiritual healer. He had these entities and so that’s just a brief intro for me. From there it started to get more far out. I spent some time with him at his house later as time went on.

Eve: I’m curious, the man that he healed, was it a physical ailment? 

David: He had cancer, and he did pass away not long ago. Mr. X didn’t ask for money but he was receiving compensation from the man.

Eve: What kinds of things did he have or use, like frequencies, tones, or things to aid healing. What did you notice after being near him?

Elizabeth: Well just prior to doing all this healing, as we got to know him a bit better he started to exhibit different personalities. Mr. X wasn’t just himself, he began to indicate that there were other beings associated with him. So I asked him if he would consider them to be walk-in beings? Like another entity walk-in that would integrate with the person in the body and work with or through them to serve some higher good etc. It turns out we identified at least 3 other entities, and these entities were a part of doing this healing work and maneuvering things through him. It wasn’t just Mr. X involved, it was these entities working through him. Each of these entities was on a different level spiritually. They had different gifts and abilities. He said they came from a high dimension, 12th dimensional beings. He said they came from a star system that was very far away, not familiar to us and that because they were such a high frequency it’s not something we would necessarily be aware of.

David:  Just to preface this, ultimately the guy turned out to be a con artist and he wanted a following to be known, etc. I feel this way and my Mom too, there was something else “in him” . Some of his story was true, some of it didn’t check out. I went to the VA with him one time and they have horrible wait times. And he had no problem, got in and out right about. It was just one of those little things. There was something different about him.

Eve: What about the entities what was each one like?

Elizabeth: They had specific names and they also answered to a being that rarely came into him.

David: They referred to him as Supreme Master. That’s the term he used. And I’ve heard that term used before. And how he described it, is that they had a very hierarchic structure, they had Kings and Queens, and it was not an egalitarian structure society. It was hedgemonic in nature. I found that curious. Most space brothers will talk about positive societies and that sort of thing.

Elizabeth: He told us he was a Fleet Commander on a Starship, near Saturn. They were in our solar system near Saturn and he came in on a smaller fleet ship. These entities would come into the body of Mr. X and that they would work their agenda through him, which was basically to learn about the human race. They were very curious, about understanding things like human emotion. They had a hard time understanding that and understanding our life here. They and Mr. X were interested in our psychic abilities and gifts and what we were able to do . As time went on we did different work with him.

Eve: Was he testing you to see what your abilities were? Did he ever astrally come to you in your dreams or at night. Was his presence invasive in any way like astral invasions or strange psychic linking or anything like that?

Elizabeth: Yes I personally felt that. David I also felt that but it was a little different with him, and I will talk a little about that later. I didn’t have that until afterwards.

David:  I went to his house a number of times just to hang out and he would teach me things. One thing that was anomalous was that he had a book called, “On Becoming a Galactic Human” by Sheldon Nidle. I was staring right at it. He was trying to keep me away from it. I don’t know if he got into contact with these entities not knowing who they were or that was one of the things that stuck out. He didn’t want me to read about that or have that kind of awareness about it or something. He was selling him self as being a walk-in for these entities and that we would be a big part of that, and then from there it started to follow the New Age and ET paradigms, like ascending, and that disasters may occur. We may be picked up at some point in the future kind of thing.

Eve: Did he make alot of  predictions about what would happen in the future?

Elizabeth and David: Yes, yes.

David: This was prior to 2012, but he did tell us a specific pick up date. And if we continued to work with him that we were part of his star family and that as such, we were going through this process of awakening and we were going to be picked up December 7, 2012 and there would be a number of more ships coming in to remove the believers or those ascending, etc. But by the same token he would make a threat, that if we were doing the reverse or not the right practices, not supporting or believing in his stuff, that we wouldn’t be a part of that.

Elizabeth: Then of course that was when alot of red flags arose.

Eve: What kind of practices did he want you to do? Was it anything with linking in energies or melding energy bodies or anything like that?

David: Well yes, but not in those specific terms. Essentially we were part of that family and he was telling us that our real ET body was in the craft, and that there was a time when those two, our human body and starship bodies would come together and join. Our star being bodies would be integrated with us.

Elizabeth:  He told us an interesting story at one point. He told us one day that he’d be gone for 24 hours for something special and secret with the ETs. And after this event, he went to some Illuminati meeting with people like the Rothschilds, Bill Gates, Obama, Hilary Clinton, and all kinds of important people at this group. His purpose was to attend this group meeting and that he was to go into the body of the Rothschild. Not physically but the ET within him. Like astrally. He told us a process to get into the body. A specific process. He said there was a soul extraction process that only certain ETs (whom of which was one of his ET walk-ins), who have a high frequency and ability to supersede the human soul or consciousness and put it into a suspended animation state. They were able to extract the soul out of the body and put it into some other containment, and then he would then infuse his own spirit into this body and speak through this body. And he said these particular people who were involved with the Illuminati, people who were making alot of decisions he said, most of these people were being controlled by high level entities. Many of these people involved in certain spiritual occultic practices, by opening that door in their life, they give these entities permission to use their bodies for specific purposes. He said when things get off track with the agenda, they–the ETs, sort of redirect the course of corrective action. He said the people in the room were not aware that this was happening when it happened. Only the entities had that kind of control. One of his entities went into the body of Rothschild  and he was specifically speaking to Obama in regard to some parts of the agenda he was supposed to be carrying out but they were not pleased with the way they were doing it, so the ETs said they needed a course readjustment. And so they were working on these issues and people putting things back into the proper order.

Eve: Did he ever say anything about these entities being Annunaki, Draco or Reptilian, Andromdan or any particular terms or names?

Elizabeth: He talked about them like they were beyond our sphere. Anytime he wanted to condemn an individual who wasn’t going along with his program, he would accuse them of being reptilian involved or something. So I don’t really know what alignment he had with those particular groups. He described these entities as 12 feet tall, blondes, sort of a Nordic type, human looking. But as the story went on sometimes his story would change. Sometimes he said they had no sexual organs, mild inconsistencies that occurred. He said they were a beautiful blonde blue eyed race of ETs who were in competition with the Greys and Reptilians.

Eve: Did he say anything about being a hybrid ET himself or from any particular bloodline?

Elizabeth: He also said he comes from a generational family of psychics, his parents were involved in some esoteric societies, such as off-shoot’s of Dianetics/L.Ron Hubbard and he was possibly exposed to some occultist teachings as well. He also said he was of extra-terrestrial origin as were some of his family members, Pleiadian & Andromedan and that this is where his exceptional gifts came from.

Eve: How exactly did Mr. X get involved in the military and black ops?

Elizabeth: Mr. X’s gifts were discovered in the military (from the mid 70’s –early 90’s) during reconaissance missions in Grenada and Desert Storm where he was able to remote view events; he was then sent to CIA headquarters in Langley, VA for testing and training as a remote viewer; he was subsequently sent to secret US military bases around the world to remote view military targets and to gather useful information about individuals etc. that the government wanted info concerning their whereabouts and such. He said he was one of the military’s best psychics & remote viewers. He was also skilled in telekinesis, in mind-control techniques and visionary/prophetic sightings. (He could give specific details such as descriptions of people, dates, times & places of events that were going to occur with 90-95% accuracy). He shared many examples with us about these experiences, such as the space shuttle disaster, 911 etc.

He said part of his military experiences included doing transport work of extra-terrestrial craft and recovered debris which he delivered to secret military bases such as Area 51. He told us about experiences he encountered at Area 51 in the underground base there with the Greys and other ET beings working with the US government. Some of these experiences included explanations of genetic experiments being conducted there with the Greys and Reptilians.  He had an interesting story about a human/ET hybrid woman, named “Sabrina” that he met on the 29th level. He went on to say that while staying at Area 51, he wandered into areas he was not supposed to be in where he encountered scientists trying to decipher alien codes and symbols from recovered alien craft. He said that because of his ET-origins that he could actually make the translations, and though the scientists did not believe him at first, he was able to do so which enabled them to then operate the craft. He said whole ships have been recovered by the US military and that in order to operate different craft they have needed help in deciphering the alien symbols.  He drew symbols for us and explained that there is a universal ET language that he could teach us.  He told us about an Air-Force pilot named “Mike” that he met at Area 51 and helped to escape from a bad situation where he was going to be shipped off to the moon though a “jump room”–essentially as a “food source” for the negative ET’s working there. I did meet Mike at another ex-military person’s home but I was only able to verify parts of this story. This man claims to be an “Andromedan” (more to this story as well).

Eve: So he had a meeting for 24 hrs to meet a special group. What other kinds of things did Mr. X do in relation to ET contacts or jobs?

David: He said that every night he would go into the “ship”. He did this to report back to the ET’s on his activities and experiences with people down on earth. In his paradigm anyway.

Elizabeth: Mr. X was not an Andromedan per se. These entities claimed to be some higher 12th dimensional being. From a planet known as Eliam. These entities were supposedly way above Pleidians or Andromedans, they were higher in frequency.

Eve: Did he ever say when this all started for him like some initiation? Was he aware of when he became or started to have “ET-Walk ins?”

Elizabeth: Although, Mr. X’’s story became more and more complicated and convoluted as time went on, he went on to explain that after his walk-in experience in 1972 (when he essentially left and would come in and out of the body only when needed) he became aligned with a group of far superior (to the existing Pleiadian energies that Mr. X carried), 12th Dimensional beings from a planet known as “Eliam” far outside our solar system. In fact he said it was in a different dimension altogether. He said he was known as a group of four brothers using the names of Azaya, Ocana, Sananda and Akal who were highly evolved/spiritually-conscious beings. He said all four of these beings had access to this body and came in and out at different times for different purposes. I have had some experience working with “walk-in” souls but I had never encountered more than one soul coming in to replace the one that agreed to leave, so this was a red flag that made me suspicious (possible entity possession/DID – Dissociative Identity Disorder, according to psychiatric terminology). He could easily change personas to fit the situation, energetic shifts could be seen psychically coming and going from his physical body. He told us that his mother ship is located near the rings of Saturn but they have smaller ships that are cloaked here above the earth. He said he would leave his body nightly and go to these ships to report back about his day to day Earth experiences.

As mentioned before, he did say his family was involved in a number of secret societies. His mother was more into the New Agey stuff, but the father was a bit more grounded. I viewed them as low level esoteric practitioners. They were big on Dianetics, the mother believed this story more than the father.

Eve: You mentioned how the ET entities had much intelligence and articulation, but when you noticed Mr. X’s regular personality come through, it was like he was a small child barely able to function emotionally, is that right? Did he experience any abuse in his early years?

Elizabeth: He did tell me one specific story at 11-12 years old where he was abducted by someone –a human–and tied up and tortured and might have experienced sexual abuse but he didnt state that specifically. Because Mr. X was very large for his age, he looked more like he was 18, so maybe no one noticed he was a child having been abducted and tortured. He eventually escaped from that situation, but it did result in alot of trauma for him. He also had alot of physical problems for his extraordinarily large size as a child, he was diagnosed with something related to hormonal or genetic problems.

David: Or a malformation in his development. His skull was strange shaped. Strange looking. He had gone through alot of tests as a child for genetic disorders. As for other forms of abuse I cannot comment or know about that.

Eve: What were the red flags that you noticed with Mr. X, such as astral sexual unions, or psychic linking, or innuendos towards sexual linking, or kundalini activation? Or what I describe in my Dark Side of Cupid book related to psychic vampirism?

Elizabeth: Yes, I did in particular. Alot of conversations we had, he was very interested in human sexuality–that’s how it began. These ET beings wanted to know certain specific things, so as we began to talk about that I noticed he was starting to develop an emotional and physical attraction towards me. And I sensed that he was watching me at times, remote viewing specific things about me, like he would tell me things on the phone that were shocking at the time, like he was watching. There were times when I felt like he was somehow remotely sexually stimulating me–physically– and it was a very strange weird uncomfortable feeling, not anything I’ve ever experienced before. At first I dismissed it, as I didn’t know what to think about it.

Eve: Did he say anything to you to try to indicate that yes, that I am doing this, to confirm that he indeed was remotely influencing you? 

Elizabeth: No–he didn’t admit to anything. Later I did confront him and told him I thought he was remotely influencing me energetically, sexually and psychically linking and I said I feel like you are stimulating me and invading my privacy and doing things making me very uncomfortable.

Eve: Did you have anything like classic alien encounters or visitations during that time, or paranormal activity in your home at that time? What about sensing Mr.X’s energy like astral or psychic linking?

David: Well we did have some unusual activity with our german shephard mix dog. He was usually very well behaved and also very protective of us. And he disappeared one night for a couple of days and we did get him back. Another dog at the bottom of the road, a beagle, came back with him, very attached like attached to the hip, and Mr. X even commented on that, how strange. Our dog didn’t even like that dog. It was a large beagle who our dog felt threatened by, and our shephard was always protective of us whenever this dog came around or saw it. They took off together for a long period of time and we actually lost him for a while. But he was never the same after that.  Our shephard dog seemed different after that interaction. We eventually got that other dog away by having to call the animal control people. It was getting too snappy and was apparently abandoned. We thought that perhaps Mr. X could have been manipulating the energy of those dogs as a way to get our dog out of the way. Perhaps Mr. X felt threatened by our dog’s protectiveness and sensitivity to his true nature.

Elizabeth: I would feel Mr. X’s energy more than see him. Like he was projecting a part of himself. I also sensed another time when tuning into him psychically that he had a military handler, an older grey haired man.

David: I’ve had experiences about this, Mr. X projecting. I was single at the time and Mr. X would be really adamant about wanting me to get into a relationship with a woman. He was actually trying to talk me up and saying I was going to be with alot of women. He had some kind of agenda there though. Mr. X was teaching me things. He was training me whereas with my Mom it was more of a love bite kind of thing.

Eve: What did he train you to do?

David: Well basically it was ET stuff, me having another body. I was going to be a fleet commander myself like a general in an army playing on my warrior mentality. Playing on my ego. A big part of it. He was always talking us up, making us feel important like we had a mission and purpose. What he would do when I was first visiting was calling in my ET body into the room. He had a dog and it was staring at it–the energy of the ET body– and saw it coming in to the room. Mr. X told me that these two bodies would integrate. Me and the ET body that is, on the star craft somewhere. He described it as one of these ET entities, the 12-13 foot tall whites.

Eve: So his purpose seemed to be to integrate and fuse you into another ET body or entity?

David: Especially towards the end. But aside from that it was simple psychic kinds of exercises. Like visualize a ball and make it travel around a room, make it turn into something. Manifest something in my hand and identify it. It was testing and training.

Things like pulling in energy. The specific technique was to put out your hands like you were holding a ball, then to imagine a specific person, concept, idea or thing–to manifest that, and bring it into myself and then send it back out. That was what he was teaching me to do.

Now with a girl or potential girlfriend, he was trying to get me to kind of reconnect with her, so he had me do this exercise with her. Like visualize her energy in that ball and bring it into my body/self and then send it back out. And it got to the point that I actually could sense her strongly, even smell her smell, so something was happening. And during that whole time she got ill, sick-ill. And I don’t know if they are related. Violently ill. That was scary. That’s why I also did alot of spiritual practices later (to clear), it shook me as far as what was right and wrong.

Eve: Did he experiment with that same exercise with you to show what he meant to see what it feels like when ones energy is being invoked or pulled?

David: No–we didn’t do that. One of the things he said was that he was all into healing, but at the same time he would often say that there was no kind of healing that we could ever do on him that would work on him. I don’t know if he was afraid of being touched on healing energy but he was against anyone doing that to himself.  Maybe he had an aversion to healing energy I don’t know.

Eve: Did he have any aversions to any names?

Elizabeth: Any high levels beings of any sort, gods and goddesses. Well for one the name of Jesus had an absolute problem with him/that.

David: He claimed to be Jesus or one of the entities claimed to be Sananda, they called him Sananda. He had an aversion to Jesus, and would say that that entity is the Sananda entity and never speak of Jesus. He never referred to him as Jesus Christ but Sananada. At that time I wasn’t really a believer in Jesus so at that time I never used any of that around him, didn’t really think to do that. I wish I would have–to experiment with that to know what it would do.

Eve: What were the red flags that you confronted him with or any specific incidents that caused you to make a decision to sever ties with Mr. X?

Elizabeth: Well there was a time he was working with our family and our group together. He did interact with other people in our community, but we were his primary contact. But he expanded out. He considered us his proteges, wanted to use our properties and he asked us to put copper rods on specific points with amethyst stones, and seal it with beeswax. He told us this was to create an energy grid on our property to protect the space, for protection and also to be used as a conduit for communication with the star beings. And by doing this we would be opening up a channel of energy that would help to connect us with his people. He also talked alot about a time when there would be a need for these entities to come to this planet. And that he was part of recruiting groups of people who would use themselves and their properties and energies created to open up portals and channels to bring these entities through the  earth, not only from up above but from below the earth and up into our reality. Allow passage for different entities to interact with humans and be a part of something that was coming.

Eve: Did he ever say what was coming?

Elizabeth: His paradigm of thought was that it was more of a positive spin. We were going to need to ascend or need to leave this planet. There was going to be a cleansing or apocalyptic events where we would be taken up or left. Something like that. Earth changes and cataclysms. I think that was the agenda

David: I asked Mr. X straight up, “Well you want an army don’t you?”  And he said, “Yes that’s exactly what we want”. I didn’t feel maligned by what he was saying but for me towards the end I wanted to know what he was up to.  I asked, “You want me to send my consciousness away don’t you? To make me an empty vessel. Maybe to experiment with me to see if it was possible?’‘ One time we did that one night. He did an exercise where I visualized and sent my astral body away. And he did some incantation or Egyptian or foreign sounding words like a ritual. Maybe I was in a trance or something, I was a little different at that time when working with him.

Elizabeth: Yes, you were different at that time, like under his mind control manipulation. I believe Mr. X was acting as David’s handler.

David:  He was asking me to say these specific words, and to “feel this thing in me” and just to kind of walk around with it to experience it. It was very weird, and I did get sick towards the end around that time. Really ill, sick.(More on the “thing” later)

Eve: Did you get pain in the back of your neck?

David: At the time we separated from Mr. X, I had a severe pressure sensation on the right side of my head that wouldn’t go away. About a week or more, sometimes I still get it. It was very intense right after the melding process was over. I think he was testing me to see what I was capable of, or to get me possessed by some entity.

Eve: Did he ever say if he had a girlfriend or was married?

Elizabeth: He was married multiple times. Maybe 7-8 times. All of them ended poorly.

David: Well he did tell me that he was using some of this techniques to get these women in his possession. I don’t know what happened maybe some of them got sick or caught on and left him.

Eve: Did you ever feel drained in his presence?

Elizabeth:  At first we felt very euphoric when we started doing psychic exercises with him. But there was always a down time where we felt exhaustion.

David: Mr. X had a friend involved with the HAARP project. During this time also, Mr. X had me do alot of research on HAARP, like where all the facilities were, how they were connected, what they were working on ,etc.  His friend was working on making  a machine that had quartz crystals, and electrical diodes, so that it would affect the HAARP grids somehow.

Mr. X also told me about someone in New Age and occult circles who had a girlfriend who was a psychic. They would go to parties and she would do readings for people, especially more affluent people. It was her career, the psychic girlfriend. I heard they would do this to do a form of gang stalking. You know, like the psychic would get all kinds of info and private stuff from affluent people or those at party, as a way to use that to gang stalk to make sure that they were not getting out of line. It’s like talking to a priest getting lots of info and using this info against the people to keep them in line. The persons he alluded to were using the psychic lady perhaps as an operative.

He was involved in alot of New Age circles.

Eve: Did he ever give you details on what he was called in to do for black ops or the milab handlers when they called him in for special jobs?

Elizabeth: He said something about a space craft in one of the underground bases like Area 51, and one craft was inoperable and Mr. X had knowledge of the alien script or symbols that enabled him to figure out how to operate the craft. He would literally then be able to operate the craft. Andromedan DNA strandings in him allowed him to identify the alien language and operate the alien craft. He had alien symbols–like 118 of them in his language that he knew. It looks like magical hieroglyphic type of writing. He also talked about things like light code frequencies and the need to reprogram our DNA and to change our upgrade our DNA so we could handle the frequencies on this planet.

David: Well that was another thing to explain. I mean one of the red flag things. It was a healing thing. Our one friend had a bad experience with it. This was later after we got away from him. He said there was a healing thing that would occur and encouraged people to practice a particular healing modality that would draw in energy through specific places and time. He also told us to use specific frequencies, two in particular, the heart frequency and a DNA activation frequency, before and during these healing events.

Eve: Did they speak in tones or voice or a recording?

Elizabeth: No it wasn’t a recording. They sent it, a CD.

Eve: I’ve heard from others that there are certain frequencies created and manipulated by reptilians to actually weaken and break down the astral body so that the person is more vulnerable for possession and attachment by these entities.

David: He was reeled into such and such a numerical Hz–the love frequency. He had us just to listen to that. He gave a recording to us, prior to the healing work. He had a CD recording by an artist who recorded this frequency and asked that the client listen to this repeatedly before and during healing. It was supposed to change or balance their DNA so it brought them into a more balanced state. As all of this went on, down the road, unfortunately all the people that he worked on started to get more and more unhealthy. And sick.There were little things that could crop up now and then and he would explain them away and rationalize whenever we challenged him. He didn’t get angry or become belligerent. He was calmly and rationally explain things. He had a way of being able to communicate and smooth things over.

Elizabeth: The one thing that really was a red flag was when he started trying to pit us one against the other once he had us in a cohesive group. I think his goal and objective was that he was our leader and that everybody was to follow him. He wanted to keep people in line. When we began to challenge things he would specifically challenged us on his authority. We questioned his authority.

David:  He was a low lipper, you know when couples put down one another, being condescending to us or others who challenged him. He did alot of that so it wasn’t a direct confrontation but a condescension, more general but aimed at keeping us in line and from questioning.

Eve: Was there any correlation between the frequencies and possession?

David: There was never a definitive correlation but it was more of a gradual moving into the ultimate possession kind of thing. There was never a definitive submit your will or ritual or whatever. The entity within must have known it should be an incremental process.

Eiizabeth:  He was really careful not to be too overt about this process. Not on the defensive. He was very accommodating. He would come off as a loving kind of man. He did not come off as very forceful or someone who was directly trying to manipulate or control.

Eve: How did he make his income?

Elizabeth: He was on a military pension.

Eve: What about his black ops job?

Elizabeth: He sometimes he would show us text messages that the  secret government “handlers” sent him telling him they needed him for something. Then they would say to meet him at a certain location they’d pick him up in a black helicopter, and take him to some secret underground base blindfolded. Then they would use him to be able to decipher some alien symbols and language. Because he had this unique gift or ability, the NSA specifically would come to him and called him to do this. Sometimes he was held against his will to do this. He was uncomfortable and didn’t want to do this. One time the NSA wanted him to astrally project himself to meet with beings on Alpha Centauri. They had some alien meet up that they wanted him to do. He occasionally got called to do off planet work. Like a go between for the military. Things that were highly unusual.

There were other people he had contact with, other ex-military people. I went to a home once to someone who was formerly retired military in another state. We went there for lunch and met up with another individual, a former AF colonel who said that he was Andromedan. I met this man and spoke with him. He told me a story that he was here as an ambassador. He explained that some humans are chosen to work with and through, and some humans make a soul contract prior to birth and they agree that they will allow certain entities to work through or with them. He was one of those people who was an Andromedan ambassador (more like an ET walk-in from birth.) But he chose a military career for this lifetime so he would be able to be involved in some of the projects our  government was involved in related to our space program. And to aeronautics to working with ETs off planet. He and Mr. X originally met each other at Area 51. He told a story where he (Mr. X) helped this man at the base and they discovered that he was an ET walk-in and they were questioning him. He was here under cover and came into this human body, to work along with what was happening with our governments involvement with ETs. He being an ET himself but not allowing that to be known. He said that he had a ship that was here, the ship had been damaged and that it was in a nearby state. He told us he was working on trying to find the proper fuel cell to re-operate his ET craft. His craft was supposedly cloaked for invisibility, but you could sense where it was.

David: A few times Mr. X would talk to him and other military contacts on the phone in my presence. Like one time it appeared the other military person on the phone did not or were not in on his schtick. His secret life with ETs. They didn’t have knowledge of the ET walk-in situation of Mr. X’s real identity. When he was talking on the phone he’d say that he was such and such now. Like another personality. Other military friends he’d talk to on the phone weren’t necessarily in the know about his other identity.

Eve: Did he ever do this to other women in the group, other similar behaviors like psychic linking or love bitey stuff?

Elizabeth: There were some other women in our group that he would be developing an attraction for them and wanting some kind of relationship with them. I clearly rejected his attentions, but he was doing the same form of sexual manipulation with other women.

David: I think that had something to do with the entities, background entities doing the manipulations. I did have alot more awareness about this. Mr. X told me not to smoke, be healthy to be in contact with these beings. To be in contact with these beings I had to quit smoking and try not to eat meat. To keep my frequency level of the body high.

Elizabeth: But he had all kinds of health issues.

David: We had this bio analysis test, it reads various functions. My markers were all green meaning healthy, and his were all red like most of his body functions were off in his body, they were breaking down and being destroyed. I think it was the entities feeding on him.

One of the really interesting things that he said right from get go about changes that would occur with us and our body changes, we were actually going to have this Octopi looking creature inside our body. And that it would have tendrils that would come out of it that could touch other people, or access energy. He said that so cavalairly like there was nothing wrong or unusual with that. And I had this disgusting image of this octopus thing in my body. But he said that it was no big deal.

Eve: Did he have one?

David: He talked about it like he had that octopus like thing in him.

Eve: I’ve heard about psychic vampires in the literature and it’s in my Dark Side of Cupid book on the Psychic Vampire chapter about how their aura and energy body appears. It is an octopus like writhing mass of tendrils that can reach out and connect and link in with others to connect and feed on others energy. 

David: When I visualized it , it was like a dark grey, green just you know maybe ocotpi thing with spines, the image came to my mind.

Eve: Did he ever say he needed to take in energy or say he was feeling low in energy and needed to feed?

Elizabeth: He was a big hugger. He told us from that right from the beginning, that that was what he needed to do, was to hug people. Even complete strangers.

David: That was wild.

Elizabeth: I think that anybody that was involved with Mr. X would eventually feel drained. He was pulling energy from them. And as he became more involved with the people in the community, there were others that came to him for healing independently, and as they worked with him their health suffered as time went on. It wasn’t obvious in the beginning. But the more time they spent with him the sicker they got. I think eventually what happened  is that people began to doubt this man and wondered what his real story was. And as we a family became vocal, was when we realized he was clearly taking advantage and his intentions were not all good.

We had an encounter with him. Basically saying “we don’t quite support you are your agenda. This is not what we feel we need to do or be”. As we started seeing more inconsistencies we called him on them. It was like the more we came together as a group they more he tried to divide us and created alot of division within our family, our relationships with others, and everything started to break apart and  be torn apart. We had an encounter with him one day because he had left his travel trailer on our property and when things finally ended, we told him that it was time to leave and take his trailer. There was a woman we knew who was still hanging around with him and bought into his whole program, a blind thinker. She was individually involved in his healing work, but it was like she was possessed. Mr. X always exonerated her by telling others and her what a pure and empty vessel she was. And how easy she was to basically “fill”.

David: He gave her the most high adulation because of that, not because she was the smartest or strongest or the best healer. It was because she was the one who was most willing to empty herself to be a vacant vessel for him to do as he willed. So when this finally ended she and Mr. X came to my property and we had a confrontation.

Elizabeth: I asked him to take his things and it was time to go. The woman with him got out of the vehicle and started acting out of control. Railing in on us spitting, screaming and a vacant stare and she was not like herself. Like she was temporarily possessed. The only way I could describe it, is that she was taken over or something.

Eve: Did you ever say anything or confront him with the name of Jesus?

Elizabeth: Well, what I did was just tell him that he needed to turn his heart back to God, to ask for forgiveness so that he could be transmuted by God’s love.

David: And when she was telling Mr. X that, I was watching him and it was like “nobody was home”. This actually happened once before when we were with another family member and he was talking to a bunch of people in town. And somehow a local Pastor got word of this situation. He came in with his Bible and started calling him out and stuff. I don’t think the Pastor knew, he was a young guy and didn’t know what he was dealing with. Mr. X just sat there like an empty vessel, he said nothing like a stone statue. I think a regular person would talk back or challenge him, he was like a zombie sitting there.

Elizabeth: While this was going on Mr. X was unusually calm as a cucumber. He didn’t even react to the raging woman with him.

There was another time, a strange kind of thing when I just watched my computer get destroyed by a virus, when he told us we were being monitored by the NSA and he told us “we were being watched”. We’d be on the phone and hear strange clicks. When Mr. X and I had telephone conversations, I would hear strange noises on the phone and he would say we were being listened to, etc. He would name the state  of the offices where the monitor was, the people in the office, like he was remote viewing them. He went into intense detail and who was listening to us and why. We would go into these conversations about ETs and things like that and it was all very strange. We were being watched. Then one day I watched my computer fry in front of me, some virus. Strange things happened around him. Earlier on when I was meeting him in a public place, I discovered the next day that I found that someone hacked into my bank card and had charged a bunch of crystals in a nearby store. My card was not gone and it was in my possession the whole time. But he was with me. He told us other energy techniques on how to protect ourselves. Like to put a spiritual belt on yourself using like a girdle or something to put around the solar plexus area. He always put emphasis on the counterclockwise motion, everything had to move counterclockwise.

David: He specifically said clockwise was weak and wrong. Almost like a star wars thing like the dark side is a stronger force.

He would sometimes react to things in movies we watched like the French film of the mid 90’s called “The Green Beautiful” when everyone boycotted the corporations and everyone refused to cooperate with the evil control system. He walked out during that scene as if in “I dont agree” mode.

Another time I had a print out of a bunch of things that the Jedi were about, like honors, etc. and I read it to him. They were codes of honor and things about always being balanced, good, etc. He walked out and didn’t want to hear it.

At the time I played video games like Dark Siders 2 and Devil May Cry. So much of the themes in movies and pop culture and these games was about the Nephilim and them being viewed as heros. The message of these games seemed to be geared towards the return of the Nephilim. In the Devil May Cry there are demons fighting against mankind. Unseen forces fighting in the background against humanity kind of thing. But the twist and spin is the hero worship of the Nephilim.

Eve: So was there any real ET encounters or did you see anything like that with him or did he?

Elizabeth: No he would tell us stuff like how cloud formations looked like a mother ship or a craft.

David: To me he was big on the psychodrama aspect, like stimulating that. One time when I was at his house we would just watch alien movies all the time. So in the process of him teaching me he would constantly saturate me in that or imbue us in that constantly. He was always doing things like sending and projecting energy out to people and working within a space. And oftentimes after he would leave, people could tell a change in the energy.

Elizabeth: This one particular woman he was working with had a healing system she was using. It involved having vials of a fluid that were specifically matched to certain “healing frequencies” and that sort of thing. I watched him change the frequency of the vials of liquid she was working with. And so he was definitely manipulating energy of people and things around him. And at the end of it after we kind of broke it off with him, but David was still a bit involved. We actually had to do a family intervention with David because he was still under the control and influenced by Mr. X and didn’t really know it.

David: We had a long sit down and I’ve never had an experience like this before. They– my family and some close friends kept confronting me on it like I was in a cult  “programmed” and I kept fighting them on it. But I actually had the sensation of getting hotter and hotter. I finally did break, and it felt like I broke a fever. I actually broke out in a sweat. Very agitated. I just kept getting hotter and hotter.

Elizabeth: We kept sending positive energy to him, and talking to him, and making statements about Mr. X’s inconsistencies and influence.

David: Finally I just broke, and I felt myself coming back to a semblance to normal. It was quite a time before I really felt like myself again, it took some time. In fact for a time, I felt empty, like a child, not knowing what to do or say, kind of lost. But I regained my sense of self after a while.

Elizabeth:  And after that David had psychic attacks. He was 24 at that time.

David: Once he did leave I had night terrors. I used to have them when I was a kid.  I never saw things except geometric shapes, have a real bad ringing and absolute feeling of terror. When I was young from 5-7 to 14/15 I had those kinds of experiences. But nothing until after this breaking if off with Mr. X. I would sense an attack at a certain time of the week about the bewitching hour, 2-3 am. I would feel something negative in the room, just skulking, something there that was trying to threaten or just trying to be there. My intuitive sense was that they thought they had me, and really wanted me. We did alot of prayer.

I still was not or didn’t believe in the power of Jesus, but it was something that I wished I used at that time period, just to test it and see if it worked. The attacks were very consistent, it always involved having this pressure on right side of my head, I still get it sometimes. It was like he knew what was going on. For example, if my mom would leave the house, and then within a few minutes he would call on the phone just to get me on the phone to talk. So we had a couple of conversations and I told him we didn’t want him around the family.

He’s not in our area anymore maybe an hour away. Several months ago I did run into him. I didn’t say anything to him, I was with my girlfriend. But I did cordially say hello and I shook his hand out of polite gesture. And my God, what I felt! The first thing he said was , “The entities are gone.” he said that. Whether it was his guilty conscience I don’t know. I shook his hand and it was like black lightening. That was how it felt–you don’t want to touch this man!

He would just be vacant, I didn’t see his eyes turn black. But one time he called in another entity when I was with him and it felt different but he changed significantly.

Elizabeth: I think you could tell when the different ETs came in because each one had a distinct personality. We could identify them.

David: I would feel and sense something coming into the room. Sometimes he would bring something into himself and I was just watching and sensed it coming down. He did that with us sometimes and with a friend who was going to have a baby. Like pulling down some energy or entity to help, etc. Creepy.

Elizabeth: He had us all do certain energy techniques to my daughter-in-law and one time we saw energy projected into her body. But luckily she didn’t get pregnant.

Eve: Did you feel psychic attacks after this too?

Elizabeth: No, but I felt a deep sense of dread, at that point I fully understood what he was and I figured we were dealing with some kind of demonic entity.

David: Mom did challenge him but I really didn’t. I was the last person to come out of it. So she had more of an experience of telling him and the entities off.

Elizabeth: They/he tried with David longer. With me, Mr. X wanted to align himself with me romantically but he also knew he couldn’t cross a line with me. One time I was sensing my own energy and power coming over me. In his presence. Almost channelling speaking about God, divine source, about being a light being and speaking about the origins of the Earth and Gods spiritual plan for this planet. He sat there with rapt attention listening as if they wanted or needed to hear this. I think what was happening is that they were so detached from the light and the Source, they desperately needed to be around that. Alot of what he kept trying to pull from me was that energy and connect with it in some way. Even though he couldn’t but a part of him wanted to. It was like I was speaking on a higher level confronting these entities and resetting the balance and helping them understand where I was at.

Eve: What about his intense focus on the HAARP project?

David: The HAARP experience. I don’t know if this was him placating me or what since I was into alot of the conspiracy research, etc. He was getting me to research the HAARP facilities, where they were all over the world, remote viewing them, essentially he wanted to destroy these facilities, using some sort of psychic means. And a device which his friend was working on.  Putting weird crystals into some kind of electrical thing, a large quartz crystal with different wires. His ultimate plan was to take this device and connect it to a satellite and send some signals to the HAARP facilities or something. For some reason he was against the HAARP system. They are all over the world. The Russian facility and US facility were communicating with one another. I don’t know what his idea was behind it. But I was able to identify targets using my psychic abilities to decipher where things were and how these facilities were connecting or communicating with one another. They could make a grid around the earth, a barrier. He kept saying that was bad and a negative thing–the electromagnetic grid all over the earth. He said that he and his people–the ETs wanted to get rid of the grid. It’s possible the HAARP is part of the Star Wars program.

Elizabeth: I think he was trying to create rips and holes in the space time continuum to bring these entities in our reality, to the earth plane. Whether they were coming up through the earth or from above from their ships or another dimension. From the outside in. Anything that was trying to grid or protect the earth, Mr. X was very much against.

David: From his story it’s hard to know what is true, what isn’t. That is the one thing that stuck out to me.

Eve: Like bring in entities through portals and then possessing or attaching to people. I believe they are really working on possession in reality.

David: It reminds me of the themes of some movies like in the Avengers, the mini-CERN instrument being used by dark forces to create wormholes to being in entities. And the in Dark Sider 2 video games, how the Nephilim are restoring their balance. In the Devil May Cry game it’s about the twins. It reminds me of the Enki/Enlil theme. Demons that exist in a parallel universe become revealed and exist with us. By the end of the game they are physically manifested. Not Christian games but playing on the Revelation symbolism, the abyss being opened.

Elizabeth: That’s why we heavily began to question him. How much of this is really ET and how much is really demonic. Interdimensional beings, they seemed to be some other energetic type of being. They certainly have an agenda. As if they need human hosts and need to parasite us. Not just for energy but to carry out their agenda. It’s all very interesting that while working with Mr. X we all became quite psychic. All of our sensitivities were heightened and it was almost like a drug. At first it was euphoric. I had alot of dreams of unusual devices used by ETs and he wanted to know about the dreams, what they were used for. On and off planet. Even my daughter saw some unusual things in dreams with symbols, complex things during this time period. Psychic connections and experiences.

David: He was teaching me how to project energy out of my hands and fingers like water coming out. To stick your hand out and point someone with the energy aiming out to a person to get an aura or energy read, and the energy normally goes to them and you can get a read on someone. But with him I couldn’t read him. He had like a silver shield on him. The same energy I projected out to him came back to me. He would deliberately shield himself.

Eve: Did anyone ever see his aura or do a psychic kind of reading on Mr. X while you were with him?

David:  Well there was this one shaman that told us that Mr. X was not to be trusted.

Elizabeth: Well what happened there was this woman who used to own a healing center, and we had a group of us that went to this space. He wanted to open up a healing center. The woman who owned the property asked a shaman to read the people interested in the center and let her know if they were ok.  We spoke with her, and after she met with us she asked a South American shaman on a read on all three of us. I was ok in good standing, and my other woman friend but he–Mr. X was not, and was not to be trusted.

That also helped validate what I was sensing and another “red flag”. He really wanted to control this local group of people.

Eve: I wonder how many spiritual groups are now being controlled by such a kind of person or group of possessed people. Wolves in sheep’s clothing so to speak.

Elizabeth: Well he was actually run out of town. We found out from the other large metropolitan city he used to work in. A large southern city. Basically he came on the run to the mountains to hide out. People were apparently after him and looking for him.

David: He would get different phone calls when I was there, and he would claim to be someone else and not who he really was. One time a woman asked him who he was and if he wasn’t Mr. X then who are you? Then the entity within would tell her, Well “the original name is in a well of souls”, in another dimension somewhere.

Elizabeth: But we know at least one incident of a death with someone he was working with in another city. And then there was a woman here involved in alot of spiritual work. But I felt she was a bit negative and she had very poor health and ultimately died.

David: It’s my feeling that Mr. X was actually trying to feed off of her and he took too much. It was my moms replacement, another woman who Mr. X was trying to get real close to. It was an older woman with some health issues. But not long after she met up with him she confronted him on his “red flags” and it was less than a month that she got so ill she died. At the end she told other friends of ours that he was evil, that he was taking the life out of her. She wouldn’t allow him to come to the hospital, she told her friends, “they/he are trying to kill me”. She died really quickly.

David: He talked about alot of ET stuff, not all of that stuff added up all the time. But that was what he was projecting to us. The practices he would do had nothing to do with ETs. For one thing with my sister, he put a crystal in water and always wanted it to be under her bed. That is like a shamanic magical thing trying to have a receptor on my younger sisters bedroom. She was having bad dreams, nightmares during a period of time so he told us to do that for protection.

Also the copper rods, amethyst, metal conductors. setting it up in a grid pattern so you can have a grid of receptivity for remote viewing. He did this with others in the community. To do this so that they could be basically spied on via remote viewing. Although he said it was for protection.

I’m not into magic but he wrote out specific symbols and sygils for us and one night he took out a scrying bowl with a candle and everything and started to do that, and that had nothing to do with aliens. At some point it had something to do with esoteric practices because he grew up around that kind of thing. He was a magician, the practices did not match his story.

Eve:  It’s interesting about the military, and how they are involved with ETs and occult practices, “walk-ins” and what seems to be possession of people by these entities.

Elizabeth: I wonder if the military know what they are really involved in and to what extent. My concern is that they are playing with forces that they don’t fully understand and that is really dangerous. I fear for our own military and government because they are opening doors to these creatures and beings who may not be what they say they are and have ulterior motives we will regret.

Well if I guess if they are trying to create supersoldiers they are using this as a power or force to manipulate humans and control them from that standpoint.

Our whole reason for wanting to come forward with our story is that we feel that people need to begin to understand  that there is alot more to this phenomenon about what is happening. It’s interesting and unique in that it didn’t involve us specifically but grew into our spirituality group, our whole community being influenced by this.

I think alot of people don’t want to face the dark side, especially the New Agey love and light community where is everything is supposed to be good and positive. And when you begin to question or challenge that everything is not what it appears to be, then suddenly people don’t want to talk anymore. That’s why it was a blessing to find someone like you with your books and everything. Gee we are not alone in this….these strange experiences that we had.

Eve: Alot of businesses, ways of life, and entire identities are built around so many of these New Age beliefs and practices that I think they don’t want to look at the angle of deception here and the big red flags. They are financially invested and their businesses may collapse. Plus I think it’s programming in and of itself to the extent of being an empty and open vessel and not being discerning. A red flag, like the woman who was a perfect empty vessel.

Elizabeth: I think we need to learn how to step into our own power and to believe in doing what we are as a divine soul or spirit and not to forget our place and what we were created to be. And instead of always giving up and giving away our power to all these other places, entities and beings. Stand firm in our own power in who and what we really are and I think we can change the world this way. And make it something completely different.

Eve: It’s good to be able to talk and have open dialogue so others won’t be afraid of opening up and talking. Fostering an environment of openness and dialogue is good.

David: This experience challenged many of my beliefs it made me go back to the drawing table and dig alot deeper in my research and what I was looking at. I like listening to alot of your stuff and George Kavassilas’s material. I enjoy listening to him because I identify with that. Before this experience I consumed everything, without discernment because I really wanted a good experience. I had my guard down. But now I’m more skeptical.

Eve:  Even the alternativemedia is controlled to a certain extent and there is an unconscious rule,  a covert “no-talk rule” about too much negativity and spiritual deception.They won’t cover too negative material or deceptions. Or the solutions to them. Or they will only show the dark side full of fear without solutions or clarity on the real issues. We are shedding light on the darkness. To break free from the programming rule of “see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil”. When we do not ask questions, this leaves us wide open to become vessels for perfect takeover!

I want to thank you Elizabeth and David for sharing your experience with me and being willing to have this brought out to larger numbers.

 

 

 

 

 

An Interview with a Female Milab: Angelia Cardwell by James Bartley

This is another excellent interview by James Bartley with a female milab, who reveals much detail into the milab experience. She talks about the occult aspects, magickal training, ET’s, djinn and the entire control system. The milab programs are heavily steeped into the occult ritual aspects, genetically altered bloodlines, ETs and interdimensional and time travel operations.

Excerpt:

“As is the case with countless other milabs, Angelia has had lifelong encounters and interactions with non-human entities, including Greys, Reptilians, the Draco, and the Djinn which some refer to as “the Shadow Beings.” She described having entities placed within her and has observed the process of entities including shadow entities, being installed within other milabs. Angelia observed the milab controllers manipulating the chakra system of milabs in order to open portals and stargates. She described how the controllers regarded milabs as “Magical Tools.” This is due to the fact that humans especially hybrid humans with ET genetic markers are for all intents and purposes, electromagnetic dynamos…power sources for the controllers, human and non-human alike in these deep black programs. This fact is of profound significance. If milabs…

http://theuniversalseduction.com/bartley/22/an-interview-with-angelia-cardwell-a-milab

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Reptilian and Dragon like Encounters

The first article link is another interview with Matt R, on his reptilian encounters and DNA activations. The reptilians are very particular about pedigrees and will follow these bloodlines like hound dogs. Here is an exerpt of Matt’s article:

Reptilians often inform their abductees that they are descended from reptilian bloodlines. They are very specific about the nature of this pedigree. So specific, that they are able to determine which abductees is from what reptilian family line. Joe Montaldo actually did a show on this topic a few years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiuTqCDE0zY.”

The full article can be found here: http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2013/03/here-be-dragons-new-katrina-abductions.html

This next article , “A Summons to Appear: Blood of Dragons, Part 2” is the sequel to Ken Bakeman’s encounter with several entities who engaged him in a forced baptism like ritual. The primary beings involved in this baptism encounter is a toad like reptilian, a mantis type creature and eyeless reptilians in robes, as well as the royal large tall Dragon like beings with wings.

http://www.kenbakeman.com/reptilian_baptism_p2.html

Junk DNA, ETs and Maternal Inheritance Factors

A friend sent me an article entitled “Scholars suggest Human DNA shows signs of being an Invasive Extraterrestrial Parasite” by Dr. John Chang. http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/10/20/02677.html

This article suggests that the junk DNA found in the human genome may be a deliberate creation to act as a parasitic inhibitor. Others of more recent exo-polital arguments suggest that aliens and ETs are now manipulating the human genome to create alien-human hybrids and genetically altered human beings.

I thought about this in light of my own history as a biochemist, and as a researcher in alien abductions, milabs and the various reports of genetic manipulation hybrid projects. One of my milab interviewees named Maarit spoke a little on her understanding of being a genetically altered human being with possible alien DNA, although it is not 100% clear this is what is happening. Instead, she explains that genetic manipulation is done so that when an abductee is born (or even in the womb) they are parasited or hosted with a particular alien consciousness. Once the parasitism of this alien consciousness takes hold, then the intended alien-human hybrid manipulated genetics has a better chance of being “expressed”. See articles

 

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/before-and-after-simbad/ and http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/interview-with-maarit-a-scandinavian-milab/

Maarit believes that one of the signs of having been genetically modified for these alien human hybrid experiments are autoimmune problems and Central Nervous System, super sensitivity issues. She says in her first interview, “When I say genetically modified, it is my understanding that this means an alteration of DNA so that the nervous system modified with alien DNA–and energetic body as well— can sustain the alien consciousness because only this kind of consciousness can make a hybrid body functional, per se. This is actually part of the soul recycling technology. When I say I am a hybrid I understand myself—my consciousness is something you refer to as draconian. I was obligated before birth to move into an altered body to fulfill my task. To perform that transition I had to choose the human parents too as long as the mother was a blood type RH negative factor. This immunological trait is a common feature among these so called, Draconians and their reproduction. But having an Rh-negative blood type doesn’t mean you are a hybrid, it’s just a necessary condition to carry on the biological technology. The genetic modification is very tied to CNS functions and immunological moderation. This alien genetic factor includes modification of consciousness aka vibrational aspects of soul/consciousness matrix as well. The soul matrix is a vibration like electricity in that it can be observed as tones of frequencies. “

She went on to say that what is important is a frequency level of genetic manipulation, and it is my opinion that the alien consciousness is what instigates the shift in genetic expression. Certain epigenetic factors are involved as well in the womb.  Maarit explains how she understands Draconian DNA as being inorganic and different than human DNA in a very big way: “The question of genetic alteration is not purely physical, as we understand. It includes vibrational factors as well. My understanding of draconian DNA is that it is basically inorganic, unlike the human DNA.*( EL-Remember in the Gnostic tractates and John Lash’s assertion that the Archons are a type of inorganic being”) The draconian body-DNA function needs radiation to sustain consciousness like humans need air to breathe. The draconian DNA structure is not a spiral alpha helix but a denser form of some inorganic and energetic matter, which could be described as a quadrangle. With this quadrangle the structures of energetic tones are organized to serve bodily functions. I believe this is why there have been procedures done to human DNA—balancing the functions and partitions of inorganic and organic matter within DNA. The fundamental building blocks for life are not quite what we have been told, apparently.”

The manipulation and piggybacking of specific “frequencies” in the womb was also reported by White Wolf Von Atzingen,  in my earlier interview dated February 28, 2013: http://evelorgen.com/wp/?s=White+Wolf+Von+Atzingen&submit=Search

These frequencies are complex but involve consciousness aspects of that which the “manipulators/controllers” want expressed in the intended recipient. In White Wolf’s case, he already had a high frequency of wolf genetics from past incarnations in ancient Atlantean times as a human-wolf hybrid of sorts. With these frequency additions and manipulations, the person can express different genetic expressions of being, in other words, “shapeshifting”.  There is a question however, as to whether the “expressed genetics” of someone in the shapeshifted form have been proven to be different than the “non-shapeshifted human form”. But it is an area that is worth studying if one can do this.

It is my belief that the DNA coding itself is not the all-in-all of inherited traits of an individual. There are other theories for inheritance factors which are maternal and believed to be results of “imprinting” as opposed to physical presence of genes. The concept of telegony, “the paternal impression phenomenon”, was popular many years before the Darwinian theories took hold in the 1800’s.   (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegony_(pregnancy) It was mostly referred to in animal husbandry, but also in ancient biblical scriptures and is even mentioned in the Gospel of Phillip in the Nag Hammadi Library. The reference has to do with when a woman has her first sexual encounter with a man, she can be imprinted by her first lover in subsequent children regardless of the father(s) she later conceives and births children from. Some scriptures such as the Gospel of Philip even insinuated that even if a woman was thinking/fantaszing about a particular man, she could possibly create this imprint in a child conceived during this time. “…

Whomever the woman loves, to him those who are born are like; if her husband, they are like her husband; if an adulterer, they are like the adulterer. Often when a woman sleeps with her husband, but while her heart is with the adulterer with whom she is accustomed to unite, she bears the one whom she bears so that he is like the adulterer.”[5]

I first read about telegony from the Russian Ringing Cedar Series, in Rites of Love, by Valadimire Megre (Ringing Cedars Press, 2008, Page 16). Anastasia is the key character in this series, who is a female shaman from an ancient Siberian Taiga lineage who maintained oral teachings from ancient times, and did not intermix with modern society. In this book the author states that telegony is real, yet most genetic scientists no longer give this theory any validity. In fact, telegony is believed to be maternally inherited, such that a woman can have a child who carries characteristics of her mother or even grandmothers first “strongly impressed male/lover” regardless if they had children from this genetic “impression”.

We know that mitochondrial DNA is maternally inherited. We also have suspected that in alien abduction research–especially that of Dr. Corrado Malanga of Italy, that most abduction lineages follow the maternal line. Not always but mostly. What I’m getting at, is that there must be some non nuclear DNA factors of inheritance, or even telegonic factors of inheritance that the aliens or even “milab controllers/scientists” are seeking, for specific qualities in supersoldiers. Or for alien-human hybrids. In the Wiki pedia link on telegony there is a reference to ancient Greek heros who were believed to be products of telegony such as Theseus. Here is a quote from the wiki on the Greek heros:

“The concept of telegonic impregnation was expressed in Greek mythology in the origins of Greek heroes.

Such double fatherhood, one father immortal, one mortal, was a familiar feature of Greek heroes like Theseus, who had a human and a divine father, doubly conceived in the same night. By the understanding of sex in antiquity, the mix of semen gave Theseus a combination of divine as well as mortal characteristics; this explained the hero’s more-than-human nature. Sometimes in Greek myth the result could be twins, one born divine of a divine father, the other human of a human sire: see Dioscuri. Of a supposed Parnassos, founder of Delphi, Pausanias[3] observes, “Like the other heroes, as they are called, he had two fathers; one they say was the god Poseidon, the human father being Cleopompus.”

Could telegonic impressions in a female abductee be an experimental cause for some supersoldiers (later born) or alien human hybrid experiments? And could these possible telegonic impressions have any thing to do with alien orchestrated human bonding relationships? (Remember that in these “love bites” the connection and impression of bonding is very powerful).

I ask the former question because of two milab/supersoldier cases I have worked with privately, who suggested in their sessions that they had “specific frequencies” and genetic lineages from ancient Atlantean heros. And, that their handlers really were seeking the supersoldier/hero traits to express.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegony_%28pregnancy

Other milabs such as Lilu spoke about the “Moon child” rituals that are done so that special children are born. These rituals can involve one partner being overshadowed or even temporarily possessed by a particular entity or invoked deity, depending on the ritual. The intended result of course is a child who has the “spirit” and characteristics of the invoked entity. In Lilu’s interview she briefly states her parents union: “…A reptilian named Kuulkalzuka said he was inside my father’s body when I was conceived and my daughter is some kind of representative of the Egyptian being Nephthys.”

EL: This reminds me of the theory of Aleister Crowley’s Moonchild. The homunculus, which is a specially conceived embryo/child under influences designed to create a child full of knowledge and of the essence of which they desired (33).”

 

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/milabs-a-pandoras-box/

 

We also know from Bruce Lipton’s work that perception itself is a key factor which determines genetic expression. http://www.brucelipton.com/

Whether the civilian community will ever get “real genetic evidence” of alien-human hybrid genetic markers is a question many of us would like answered.

Will we find genetic markers of ET manipulation in the nuclear DNA, junk DNA, transfer RNA or mitochondrial DNA? Or are there other markers of extraterrestrial manipulation? Is this really a “genetic hybridization project” or something more invasive on a spiritual and energetic level?

In my view, the trans-dimensional parasitic factor of alien intrusion is real.  I also believe this can be a causative factor in new gene expression if the human host wants to keep the alien parasites.( If they strongly want to identify with being “alien hybrid” or a star child, this is enough of a reason to maintain alien parasites.) Perhaps mind control systems (like Mk ultra, etc.) of the technocratic world are designed to disconnect us from our innate Spirit wisdom, so that these alien intrusive plans take root in our genetics. I believe our eternal Spirit essence is more powerful than these alien parasites and the physical biochemical aspects of DNA expression.

Perhaps we need to decide what we really want. Then imagine it, make that impression, do it and use your divine imagination before someone else does it for you!

 

Radio Show on Critical Mass Radio Saturday April 6, 2013

Cosmic Blueprints interview on Critical Mass Radio with Eve Lorgen and radio hosts Tony and Kate of Gaia.(Synchrenicity.com people) A two hour show on everything from alien love bites, forces of disruption, milabs, mind control, spiritual powers of protection and how contracts are made with the “dark side” unknowingly.

This is the direct mp3 file of the Radio Show April 6, 2013 with Tony and Kate of Gaia on Comic Blueprints Show on Critical Mass Radio. We really got into it, a fun show.
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/660/show_4660107.mp3

Alien Abduction Caught on Film

This is a video showing how a woman (abductee and suspected milab) is literally taken from her bed, by disappearing for a period of time, then re-appearing back in bed. It is as if a technology is used to literally shift her dimensional frequency so that she disappears and enters another dimensional reality, then reappears after the “abductors” are finished with her.

Notice also how she observed the classic black helicopter hovering over her home and the MIB type of entities.

The story as is told on the youtube page:

In December 2010, UK UFO website ‘Cosmic Conspiracies’ was contacted by a lady who claimed she had been abducted by aliens. But what was even more incredible was that she had footage to prove it.

This video has been uploaded to You Tube with the full approval of ‘Sonia’. Originally it was just hosted on our website, but due to people ripping off the video and posting it here anyway, the decision was taken that it would be better to host the video here on our official channel, instead of some 3rd party trying to steal it.

We were the FIRST investigators of this story (despite some people claiming otherwise.) We were contacted just 24 hours after this footage was taken.

Unfortunately, during the weeks after our investigation started, our email went down and we couldn’t contact the witness for a few days – in the meantime a few scrupulous people got involved with the case and have threatened to both run the story in a UK UFO Magazine and also talk about the case at a UFO lecture later in 2011. 

We are not connected with any of these individuals and distance ourselves from their actions to make money from this footage – we are here to support the witness and find answers to what the footage appears to show!

The story starts with a sighting of a black helicopter who’s occupants were similar to ‘Men in Black.’ A few days later, the lady spotted a UFO hovering over the same field. That night she believes she was abducted and was so afraid after the event that her husband decided to install a CCTV camera into the bedroom to reassure her that nothing else was going to happen.

However, a few nights later and the lady thought she had been ‘taken’ again.

On reviewing the tape she saw something that would change her life forever!

This is genuine film taken at the time of an alien abduction. The Cosmic Conspiracies research team conducted a 3 hour interview with the lady and her family and believe that this footage and her encounter is real.

Despite using many types of software to try and convert the VVF footage to PC (such as VX4SL) we have so far had no luck. We have tried every suggested software that viewers have sent in, but still we cannot convert the original footage. 

Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59t8kgY9JOE&feature=em-share_video_user

 

Alien Abductee Shares Knowledge of Reptilian Alien Weaponry

Matt R., shares his insights on reptilian-alien weaponry. These weapons were witnessed by Matt R., in more than one abduction, notably in the “mall training abduction exercise” before Hurricane Katrina in Louisiana. These fire blasting weapons are suspected to be the same high-powered, energy flamethrower observed in another recent reptilian sighting case in Arizona, USA. Matt says, “A truck driver in Arizona happened upon a laser backpack armed reptilian after it had recently cooked a deer with one of these weapons.”

For more details on the entire article see:

http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2013/02/infernal-machine-reptilian-alien.html

 

Alien Hierarchies and the Research of Dr. Corrado Malanga: An Interview with Dr. Malanga through Dorica Manu

Note: *Update 3/31/016: Many articles of Dr. Corrado Malanga are now available on this site for download. (The previous wordpress site is no longer up)

https://www.scribd.com/collections/4289939/Corrado-Malanga-English-Language

This article discusses the Alien Hierarchies and Levels of Alien Interference according to the research of Dr. Corrado Malanga of Italy. This is in the form of an interview with Dr. Malanga’s English speaking colleague, Dorica Manu.

Dr. Corrado Malanga is a veteran researcher of the alien abduction phenomenon. He is also a scientist, a professor of Organic Chemistry at the University of Pisa, Italy. Dr. Malanga is known for his revolutionary views of alien interference, especially the deeper levels of alien interference suggesting the aliens as transdimensional parasites. Dr.Malanga has authored two books in Italian. The first, UFOʼs Inside the Mind” (Bompiante, 2000) revealed how aliens implant their own memories inside the minds of abductees. This created a controversy and according to Malanga, after which, “all hell broke loose”. His second book entitled “Aliens or Demons: The Fight for Eternal Life” (2007) also created a stir, as his theories did not subscribe to the contemporary abduction literature, which has been neatly circumscribed to the abductee medical exams, Grey aliens and the hybrid breeding program. Dr. Malanga also co-authored, B.V.M. Beata Vergine Maria” (Blessed Virgin Mary) Mondadori, 1995, A book about apparitions of the Virgin Mary and how these apparitions/holograms may be alien in nature.

Although his research includes those aspects of the abduction scenario, his emphasis on the aliensʼ entrapment and hijacking of the human soul as a “battery”, is what he believes is the most important reason for the aliens interference with humanity. It is all about our souls.

(EL: Note: The alien love bite scenario and the dark side of Cupid are part and parcel of an aspect of parasitical alien/entity interference, in my view. The corporeal and incorporeal entities and various implant technologies can facilitate, catalyze or even forge strong bonds between people.)

A good over view of Dr. Malangaʼs theory regarding alien interference with humanity can be viewed in the article entitled. ”The Global Picture of Alien Interferences” (http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/global-picture-of-alien-interferences/)

Liberation Techniques Link:  https://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/liberation-techniques/flash-mental-simulation/

Although this basic overview was introduced in an earlier article/interview I did with Maarit (http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/before-and-after-simbad/) I wanted to present the basics as a prelude to the content of this article, which emphasize the deeper levels of alien interference, such as incorporeal alien parasites, the involvement of the Primordial Man and the higher figures of creation.

Through hypnotic and neurolinguistic methods, Dr.Malanga aimed to help abductees recover their memories. He discovered after hundreds of regressive hypnosis sessions and parallel studies of psychology, neuroimaging, myths and quantum physics, that  the inner make-up of a human being (namely the abductee) consists of: the Soul (feminine part), the spirit (masculine part) and a more intellectual part (the mind). The mind is that part which is more in touch with and aware of the flow of information to and from the human brain. These three parts of the human self came out during the hypnotic sessions, with their own personality, own will and own world view. The first most visible issue in abductees, after having understood the existence of these three conscious parts, was that an abductee’s mind, spirit and soul components were not in communication with each other. This contrasts to non-abductees or those who are not traumatized, parasited or dissociated. In other words, there exists with the abductee a condition of soul-mind-spirit disconnect, which enable the aliens to tap into their soul energy, while keeping the abductee unaware of this soul energy hijacking operation. This in and of itself is complex and involves carrying out the alien agenda through those parasited.

Dr. Malanga also discovered a lot about the aliens methods, their motives for interfering with us, and how they parasite themselves within the human mind-spirit. This is similar to what many shamans and spirit release practitioners such as the late Dr. William Baldwin call “attached entities”. In yet other traditions, such as the late Father Malachi Martin, spirit attachment is also known as demonic oppression, partial possession or total possession, depending on the severity of the case. I concur that the demonic possession theory is a bit simplistic when viewing alien activities, although its study is quite useful and should be reviewed by more sincere researchers in the UFO/ET field.

In a nutshell, Dr. Malangaʼs research describes the problem of alien interferences, which races are responsible for these interferences, and analyzes the many levels of alien interference. Some levels are obviously physical and others are more internal, such as affecting the energy body of the person. His work clarifies the interrelationships between different aliens and between aliens and groups who work for the New World Order agenda. Most importantly, he describes the techniques used to subjugate the abductee, used by both aliens and the military humans who are colluding with them to achieve their own goals. He proposes several levels of interference:

Level 1: Physical surgical operations on the abductee, such as invasive medical procedures, implants.

Level 2: Alien memories implanted into the brain of the abductee.

This aspect concerns the aliens desire for immortality, by living within and through us. Malanga reports it as many abductees stated while in regressive hypnosis, “The aliens live across us and our mind. “(Alien Cicatrix, p. 21-26) Here, many symptoms of the alien abductees were such that they felt, “not of this world” or recalled other lives as an alien. Or dual liveʼs as an alien. (EL–being transferred to an alien body and working with them.) The alien memories Malanga calls, Active Alien Memories or AAM. These memories comprise also the lifetimes that a particular alien may have been a passive part of, while being “parked” inside many different “abductee” body/carriers throughout long spans of time.

For example, one abductee may have within him/her an AAM of one alien (of many thousands of years old) that contains 5 lifetimes (or more) of “abductee carriers”. If the AAM can be opened via careful regressive hypnosis, these memories may appear like past lives. This of course calls into question a new or abridged definition of reincarnation.

Level 3: Copying of the Abductee

Two basic types of aliens predominated in the AAMs, the locust/mantis or serpent/reptilian forms. The reason according to Malanga, is that the human DNA is compatible to the reptilian DNA and our brain is larger, and able to carry more information. They designed us this way to use us for their AAM storage. To preserve the AAMs the aliens cloned each abductee in case of bodily death of the original. Malanga describes the cloning apparatus (described by abductees Soul components) as both horizontal and vertical cylinders, arranged in 4 different rooms, within a possibly subterranean-military/medical environment. It was discovered later that on rare occasions the “copy” or clone of the abductee was sometimes returned from an abduction temporarily, but usually the original is returned. This caused odd memory lapses where the clone had a slightly different back up memory than the original or vice-versa. (Alien Cicatrix, p. 21-26)

EL- Malanga later clarifies his term clone and now uses the term “copy” to define what the aliens were doing, when copying an abductee/person. A clone Malanga said, has to be grown up from point zero, a baby and then into an adult. A copy, on the other hand is something like a Xerox copy, they somehow create a copy that wasn’t observed to have been “grown up”.

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Level 4: Attempts to move the light-dots matrix (SOUL-CONSCIOUSNESS) of the abductee and constrain it into an alien body

This is after the cloning process whereby abductees described a light within a vertical metallic cylinder, vibrating extremely fast. This causes the dot matrix consciousness or “soul matrix” of the person to be ejected out of the body and directed into the next transparent cylinder. The original body is still in the first cylinder while the consciousness is put into a new body. Sometimes this was an alien body, but the Soul vibration can not accept the alien DNA frequency for extended periods of time and usually reject its containment. The Soul can be put into the cloned body, and then back into the original.

In some testimonies, the person reports being placed and functioning within an alien body, and carrying out various tasks for their alien handlers.(For example the Simon Parkes testimony on the AMMACH video interviews, see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQTqGOlcWc

According to numerous abductee hypnosis testimonies, they (or more accurately their Soul Component) reported that the Soul consciousness cannot be copied. The aliens know this and this is why they are using our Souls. Ultimately they want to create some genetic bridge which will alter their own alien DNA to be compatible with our Souls.(via various human-alien hybrids) Once they have created a genetic hybrid with DNA that is compatible with our human Soul frequency, is when the human souls will be hijacked into complete alien enslavement. (EL–In other words, the aliens, who only have a mind and spirit component to their being must use our Souls to incarnate into hybrid bodies, where the will of the Soul is completely repressed or taken over by the aliens will. This is not good) This, according to Malanga is the bottom line of the alien agenda. The secret of the Tree of Life is that the humans or human DNA, contains a compatibility with the frequency of the Soul. Apparently not all humans possess this DNA compatibility with the Soul. Or to put it another way, Malanga discovered via the abductee Soul component testimonies, that only 20-25 % of humans are souled, or had this DNA soul compatibility issue.(Alien Cicatrix, p. 21-26) Another way to perceive this, which the latest discoveries of Dr. Malanga also confirm – is that the Soul of these people with apparently incompatible genetics stays behind in another dimensional reality, so that the “connect” aspect will not function within that life-genetic container.  As Malanga would now say, “These soul entities still remaining on the less dense energetic planes of existence–the so called “Higher Realms” of Religion and New Age–are afraid to “come down” and have the experience on the Earth plane”. Therefore what these beings are really doing is inviting us to come up to where they are–to ascend. (EL- They want company I suppose? And why do they need us there is my concern. For another understanding of what their level of existence and dimensional reality really is, I suggest studying the Buddhist 6 Realms of Existence). The beings from this other higher planes of existence are offering us an eternal golden jail.

These persons with disconnected souls may not express heightened spiritual understanding and will function within the lower realms of consciousness. Perhaps psychopaths fit into this category?

In a nutshell, most of the aliens conducting the abduction-related genetic experiments do not have a Soul component in their being, and their genetics are incompatible with the human Soul frequency. Within the triad of components, human abductees have mind, spirit and soul. Aliens had mind and spirit or only mind in SOME races. The various types of aliens, bodiless aliens and other beings from higher levels of creation will be elaborated on more later.

Level 5: Different kinds of incorporeal aliens made up of light-aka- the LUX light being or those coming from another dimension-aka—the bi-dimensional parasites such as the Horus-Ra figure, Six Fingered ones or Growl.

These are the ones who seem to have more control that the other aliens. Two basic types here, the LUX being from our own 3D universe, and the black shadow beings who come from a 2D “dark universe”–  which is archetypically located behind our universe.These incorporeal beings take on various body forms (not necessarily physical, however) in order to interact with us here.

These spirit kinds of parasitic beings also had a kind of “AAM”. They appear to live a long time, but are actually mortal. These beings may have been believed to be SOME of the immortal gods in mythological cultures. According to Malanga, these incorporeal beings under the direction of the “Primordial Man” figures, control the aliens which organize the abductions. Those aliens in turn control the cyborg Greys.

The incorporeal aliens have something similar to spirit but different than a soul. And there are three kinds of human beings:

1. The Body and Mind

2. The Body, Mind and Spirit

3. The Body, Mind and Soul

4. The Body, Mind, Spirit and Soul

It is postulated that the incorporeal aliens, (light beings and dark shadows) want to host or possess humans who have Souls, in order to feed off the energy so they can live forever and to manifest their control over the One Consciousness” the true “God”.

The LUX being is unique in that it is from our 3D universe, but somehow lost its “body form” that enabled it to retain a Soul aspect. Malanga now affirms  that the LUX being is an emanation of the Lucifer who rebelled against his creator, the white, bright Primordial Man (The good Father Figure, Adam Kadmon, the wise old man figure), and so itʼs like an orphan and is envious of the human condition, always seeking human bodies with Souls (and also without souls) to possess, in order to live, to manipulate, to weave his intrigues, to feel important…, etc.

The black shadows who take on the Horus-Ra figure or Growl (six fingered types who are tall, blonde, with slit eye pupils) originate from the “dark universe” where the Soul component cannot experience its bi dimensional form. Much of this theory is discussed at length in Dr. Malangaʼs Genesis 2 and Genesis 3. ( *LInks or pdf: In Italian: )

Level 6: This concerns the Primordial Man and the hierarchies of beings above the PM

This level concerns how they interact with the abductee who is working on freeing him/herself, or after they became free of alien abductions, but still not free from other types of intrusion occurring from higher levels of creation.

These are the questions I posed to Dr. Malanga through Dorica Manu, his English speaking colleague.

Q: 1. What are the alien hierarchies as you understand them?

A: It looks like the less important ones are classical gray aliens which, at least in 99% of the cases, seem to be a kind of a biological machine. They are run by other small aliens, but just a little bit higher (1.50 m) with a much more insectoid looking face and which appear that they might be sentient beings. So, they might’ve made copies/clones of beings which were already very servant in character.

Every race has different models of “grays” so, we have descriptions of grays with differences regarding the height, the shape of the skull and the color of the skin–from deep black to blue and to light brown. Next, the alien which seem to be less important is the so called “5 fingered blonde”. Above the 5 fingered blonde are the Mantis (insectoids).

Nearby the Mantis, but a little bit under them, are the Reptilians which are less important, have LESS know-how… they are less developed beings. Malanga states that there are at least 12 races of aliens, five of which comprise the main reports in abductions. (EL-Those interfering with humanity with respect to the first level of alien interference. See article “Levels of Alien Interference, Types of Aliens, Alien Cicatrix, p.18-21 and 21-26)

In Alien Cicatrix, p. 18-21, Malanga reports 6 basic alien types, although many variations of aliens have been reported. These were: tall greys, black greys, tall whites, various types of Greys, such as the Ebens or cyborgs, heart shaped Greys, blue beings that appear like blue-greys. To briefly summarize the general hierarchy of the aliens from the less powerful to the most are:

GREYS – HEART SHAPED HEADS

ORANGE AND THE “NAZI FROG”– REPTILIANS

INSECTOIDS

LUX

GROWL

HORUS-RA

PRIMORDIAL MAN

Description of alien types in more detail:

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Heart Shaped Grey

The Greys: Yes, the classic alien you see all over: short, 3,94 feet, big black eyes, three/four long fingers.gray2
They are biological machines. Robots. Slaves. They stink like hell!!
They are the ones you remember most because the are in the front line, in charge to “take you away” and “bring you back”.
Are mentally strong and use telepathic communication.
Have a “magic stick” to deliver painful electric charges on you, in case you don’t want to follow them. Yes, we use this treatment on dogs. (From: http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/alien-races-abduction/)

The Oranges

These are mammalian, about 2 meters tall, vertical pupils, elongated head, and a very suntanned like complexion. They have 5 fingers and tend to dress in dark blue overalls, on which has a two interlacing triangle symbol on the left pectoral. They are described as both male and female and beautiful, but with a closer look they are not that beautiful and their hair looks like it has never been washed! They have a detailed map and knowledge of human DNA.

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Orange

 

Sauriod Creatures

Two main types: The more aggressive one is about 2.8 meters tall, five claw like fingers and feet/toes. One rostrum shaped nail is on the forearm and foot like a catʼs extra claw. The skin seems dampish and translucent, brown-green colored scales that when carefully examined are softer than expected.The skin becomes progressively red in the abdomen zone and on the digital pulps: in these zones it becomes thinner and a red lymph can be seen flow underneath it above all when the alien behaves in a kind of angry way.

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The presence of two roundish and little protuberant horny surfaces characterize the left and the right side of the skull, while in the center there is a more tender structure under which we see the lymph pulsation; this structure seems a backbone in relief and runs, clearly, all the length of head, neck, back, and of the big tail. They use the big stumpy tail as a third support when standing on their two short and stumpy legs. Fingers and toes are abundantly webbed. The tongue appears to be bifid and stumpy. The eyes have a sub-eyelid membrane that runs in a diagonal way, from the lower side to the top and from the nose to the external side. The pupils are vertical and the iris changes its color in relation to the alien’s mood, from yellow-green to bright red. They have no external ears and it seems they are able to control the opening and the closing of their internal ears.

Saurians look like dragons or maybe like standing crocodiles, even if their face (or muzzle?) is rounded like a snakes’ one, with thin lips and nostrils at the end of the nasal septum, depending on their age, as they grow without limit.They are amphibian beings; they are always seen together with another species of aliens apparently subdued to them.aquaticreptilian

The second type of sauroid being has eyes that are froglike, 2 meters tall, translucent skin, vertical long and slim teeth that look like whalebones. On their head they have small horny excrescences. These beings are similar to one another and it’s difficult to identify particular differences between the two of them. They dress in a suit similar to a Nazi military uniform of the last world war.am_draco1

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Even if we are unable to tell the male from the female, the reptilians are maybe the only onces still able to have sex. The reptilian AAM’s are the only ones conserving memories of reptilian sexual intercourse. Even in the Bible, the serpent is the one who reveals to Eve (the human) the sexual life. (EL- Note the drawings are not necessarily all those described, but various types observed)

 

Tall, 6 fingered ones (In essence, a Growl shadow inside a cyborg body)

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Nordic 6 Fingered One

Tall (2.5 meters), white complexion, long white hair, 6 fingers, pale blue eyes with a vertical iris pupil. They usually wear a long white kind of robe, wear a round neck medallion with the symbol of the hexigram (The Star of David). It was understood that this is an artificial humanoid body a cyborg. This cyborg is a product of the 3D universe made apparently by the Insectoids Made especially for the Growl, dark shadows to be able to operate in this 3D reality.

They use a this android form body, and can only interfere in our universe when taking a body form. These have also been described as the incorporeal aliens which parasite the human energy body. (EL-These may be the “widow’s peak hairline” aliens that some of Barbara Bartholic’s clients have encountered, for example, in the Ted Rice Case. I also want to point out that many abductees may perceive the Nordics as very beautiful creatures.)

One Eyed Beings or Horus-Ra

These one eyed beings we understood later to be Horus-Ra.

They are about 3/4 meters tall, dark violet skin and a third eye in the middle of their forehead. We do not know if it is anatomical or technology or some kind of appendage.(EL–the third eye is a common symbol for “third eye vision”, when this chakra is fully opened in many esoteric/mystical texts)horus18frenk


In the male specie, they have under the chin, a beard-like looking appendage. They have protruding scapular bones, which are often mistaken for wings folded back. They have three fingers plus a thumb which look very bird, claw-like. They have great telekinetic powers when they move. But they were usually observed as through a screen and “not really there” but rather communicate from far away to other aliens via technological devices. Because they didn’t want to show up, they didn’t want to be seen and understood. They are the “Lords”…they are so ugly and so different from any mental structure we already had that, at the beginning, our abductees were unable to describe them properly.

 

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Horus-Ra

 

Insectoid Beings and the wrinkled skin, long necked slave beings.

These are similar to the preying mantises, have a green chitinous body and they walk on their hind legs. They very small beings, with a long neck that has muscles that flex and rotate the head (the equivalent of our sternocleidomastoids).Their mouth is small with lips different in thickness (the upper lip is noticeably smaller then the lower one) and their eyes are dark and moist. It is believed that they use our female abductees to reproduce themselves now, although it has been theorized that before that perhaps, they may have laid and hatched eggs to reproduce.mantisbeing-uf

They are five-fingered.  (EL-In the Simon Parkes case, his mantis creature is green about 9 ft. tall, and wears a purple robe. In his testimonies he infers that these creatures are somewhat above the reptilian beings in hierarchy. (See:  http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/simon-parkes-ammach-interview/)

A: It seems that there are 3 types of Mantis from the less social status and height to the higher social status and height: Brown, Green and White. The White ones may rule over the reptilians to but I would not say reptilians are their slaves.mantis-small

 

 

Q: 2. What about the Draco, where do they fit in?

In Maarit’s case, she perceived the Draco as being higher in command to the reptilians but the Horus-Ra incorporeal being used either the snake or chicken/bird body and appeared to have higher authority to all of these.

A: I’d say the Draco are the same ones Malanga calls Horus-Ra.

Q: 3. Can you tell me which alien beings are more physical and which ones are the incorporeal beings? What is the difference and what do they do, what do they want?

A: In addition to the physical aliens with bodies are the bodiless beings: The LUX in primis and the ones derived from the other “dark” Universe. These are the ones which use, in different manners, 3D bodies in order to operate in this universe. And I am referring especially to 2 types of beings which are:

  •  Ra, which inhabits the alien we call Horus
  • The Growl, which inhabits the 6 fingered blonde, artificial body, and is known as the Nordic alien. It wears a long white robe and  also wears a medallion in the form of a 6 point star, hexagram, (the star of David).
  • The LUX being comes from our own universe as opposed to the other incorporeal beings. When the LUX attaches to the person it will so do from from the front. Conversely, the black shadow beings often attach or are perceived from behind or in back of us.

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    Growl/Ringhio

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LUX Being

Q: 4. Iʼve heard you say that the growl being can be the type of being who “astrally intrudes” like a 4th dimensional reptilian in certain love bite intrusion experiences. These have been reported numerous times in my work when the reporting partner in a “Dark Side of Cupid” love relationship, starts having visits by the entity who is attached to or possessing their partner. This is a type of astral, sexual energy vampirism. Can the Growl being shape shift into a lizard-like being and intrude in this manner, such as activating the kundalini and sexual energy of a person affected by this kind of love bite relationship?

A: It could be, but itʼs complex. Black shadows connect directly to the mind, altering perception of the subject. So, it can make you see things which are not what they seem to be. We cannot say itʼs always the black shadow, and we cannot say it’s always the reptilian. Also, I think in most cases a shadow entity is involved…People are more likely to exchange the overshadowing dark entity for a reptilian because there’s alot of literature on the internet talking mostly about the reptilians.

What may be happening during this traumatic event in some cases is that the presence of a reptilian AAM is also perceived. At any rate, I think deep regressive hypnosis should be done in order to understand what is really happening; it may even come out that an abduciton occurs in between…

The Growl 6 fingered being will attach to the spinal cord of the person’s energy body. The Horus-Ra being or the Ra (dark shadow being in essence) attaches to the coccyx. Both beings are “black shadows” and are often perceived as overshadowing from behind. The bi-dimensional black shadow beings interfere with the person’s mind component.

Remember, the AAM can be one of the many alien types such as Mantis, Reptilian, Orange, Military, etc., any alien being that has a body.

The AAM attaches to the brain component of the person, using the Soul energy to energize its will within the abductee. The AAM is deposited in the left hemisphere (for right handed people)  and the AAM is deposited in the right hemisphere in left handed people. The AAM  tends to overshadow the spiritual part of the host. It lives, thanks for the soul of the abductee…

This is a diagram of commonly found implant locations on the human body: Implant Map

Q: 5. Is the 6 fingered one (Growl or Tall Nordic one with 6 fingers, slit iris pupils) as important as the LUX? Is it more important than the Reptilians?

A: Yes, Growl IS more important than LUX and reptilians, but less important than the other black Shadows, Horus-Ra.

Q: And compared to Ra?

A: They are “competitors” to Ra. LUX is not that high (Maybe not anymore) It invented churches and religions in order to control people and feed on their energy, keep them dummied down.

Answer: They are actually at the same “height”. They are two entities very similar to one another. None of them has a body so we cannot identify very well the differences. Ra is much more evil, I had that impression. Even if the other one is mean in a much more obvious way. Above them are the Higher Hierarchies.

Q: 6. Who is the Primordial Man”? Is this what you refer to as the “higher hierarchy”?

Answer:  The higher hierarchy in our universe is the hierarchy related to the so called Primordial Man. The PM, which seems to be – but is not – a giant, a father, the white bearded god. It gives you the impression to be your father, your defender but in reality wants to be your master (in the sense of owner or boss ). Beyond this kind of appearance is hidden his real form which is the form of a fish. A fish-man.

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If you pay attention to this polymorphism of the aliens, you notice that the most ancient beings are the fish, next are the amphibious (but before them, are the insects) and next the birds, so we have all the characteristics of a space-time evolutionary line of how the things came into being on earth. Because, first we had the fish from which the amphibious derived, from then which derived the mammals, then the birds and the snake. While the insects are somehow different, they too came from oceans/sea/water, from marine algae. It’s enough to read our myths to understand all that we have just said. All fits perfectly. Dr.Malanga uses the Kaballah with its various levels of sephiroths to notate where in the hierarchy these alien and incorporeal beings reside. See image below. (This is in Italian.)

KaballahTranslation:

Conscienza – Supreme One Divine Consciousness

Secondo Creatore – Second Creator from “dark universe”

Primo Creatore – First Creator “Our Light Universe”

Anima Secondo Creatore – Soul of Second Creator

Adam Kadmon (UP) – Primordial Man, Father Figure

Uomo Con Anima -Souled Human

Alieno Corporeo -Corporeal Alien (ones with a body/form)

Alien Incorporeo – Incorporeal or bodliless aliens (black shadow types)

Uomo SENZA anima–Soulless Human

Golem –  GOLEM IS A INTERESTING FIGURE FROM THE JEWISH FOLKLORE…. READ HERE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem 

Q: Where is the LUX beings position in this Kaballah?

A: In my opinion it should be between the PM and the corporeal aliens.

Q: 7. How will the PM act towards the abductee, especially after he/she frees themselves from the physical alien abductions? Does he try new tricks or ways of interfering?

A:  The PM will attach to the Soul component of the person, which is different than the other beings who parasite, who generally only have a mind and spirit component. They attach to mind and/or spirit). The PM will try to keep you coming back lifetime after lifetime unless you willfully disconnect from him in this cyclic process.So, after disconnecting from the PM, the abductee may start to experience various modes that the aliens and even the PM do to try to reconnect and interfere in their lives. (EL- The PM is in our “light universe” or often referred to as the next highest being under the Creator 1 of the light universe. To understand these hierarchies, itʼs good  to view it as symbolically represented as the mirror split of the One Divine Consciousness into two “universes” or two Creators. Then under the creator 1 is the PM. This can be found in Malangaʼs Genesis 1, 2 and 3 article.

(See Genesis 1, Part 1, English)  http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/genesis-i-part-1/

Genesis 2 & 3 Italian:

http://www.corradomalanga.vacau.com/documents/GENESI_II.pdf

http://www.corradomalanga.vacau.com/documents/genesi%203.pdf

He explains how the second “dark universe” has a corresponding Creator, whose soul stayed behind in the One, so that all beings from the bi-dimensional dark universe do not have Soul components as we understand them. The dark shadow bi-dimensional beings come from the second creator “dark universe”. All humans who are abductees have a Soul component, otherwise they would not be “abductees”.)

A: Maybe psychic attacks, happen during the night after working with someone. Or being attacked through others. They will try to interfere in your dreams too. Above the PM and two creators, there is something else. (This is in Genesis 3) When an abductee gets rid of aliens, and the PM, then this is dangerous from some other entities’ point of view: The ones above  this universe and above the PM. It is THEM, the ultimate eye on top of the pyramid. According to Jungian symbology of archetypes, the eye with a pupil is a symbol for the vagina/womb and the unborn baby. A baby which does not want to leave the commodity and comfort of its dimensions.

That is when other beings may interfere. The military interfere at the level of alien interferences. At the beginning, years ago, it seemed to Malanga that military intervened after the aliens left the abductee alone, but that was not true. The military showed up more often after disconnecting the Growl and LUX (incorporeal beings), only because they had more leeway and because Malanga had not understood at that time all the implants and interferences from the higher levels–RA and Primordial Man, who know about and allow for military intervention.

They may enter into someones life through some higher being, who tells you that you can ascend now. Or some Ascended Master scheme, playing on your ego, telling you that you are special, more evolved. They may try to lure you to “Come up to us at this level, bla bla”. We at first thought it was LUX doing this. Malanga called them “those from higher dimensions/planes”, like Archangels and Metatron. The ones behind many New Age Ascension thoughts. They are out of this creation on another level of existence.

Q: -Perhaps these are like the Titans or Gods from the Buddhist 6 Realms of Existence definition? In this realm, those from the God Realms must eventually come down to human level in order to evolve. (See: http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/tp/Six-Realms-of-Existence.htm)

A: Yes it may be! We can now say we are sure from testimonies of ex-abductees having had the issues with these ones and having recall and experience the journey backwards.  (EL– In other words those who realize they as humans have already descended down from higher levels of creation to earth, places where these so called “Gods” are now and we are on our way back to the Source. The human realm of existence–according to Buddhist cosmology, is the only realm of the six where we can become free from samsara, illusion.)

We already came down from this level (the alleged higher “Gods” level) to experience and realize the nature of our soul here as humans: Duality is illusion, freedom from samsara, etc. Now, these ascended “God” beings tell you that you deserve to come up to where they are, saying we are at a lower level and to pray, meditate and so forth in order to ascend, etc. They offer us a place in paradise in the 5th dimension. They are trying to lure you back in the net, a golden prison. This can happen in dreams or channeled through someone. They are similar to us in that they have a soul part but are afraid to come down to our level in order to continue their evolutionary process. They are collaborating with Horus-Ra in order to keep us stupid here to maintain this reality. They tend to want to take the ones who are waking up, and then isolate them from others.

Q: 8. The fishbody you’ve mentioned before, is it a 3d body? Is this related to Dagon, the Fish God or the hats worn by Vatican Popes and Bishops?

A: Yes, absolutely. And yes it’s all about recycled myths. In the case of the Catholic clergymen even Jesus is associated with the fish symbology. The same archetypal figure is interpreted differently all around the globe.

Q: 9. How many PMs are there, can there be more than one? Or for that matter how about the LUX, are there many?

A: The answer is a very difficult one because their number can be an archetypical number, I mean a symbolic number. When I ask the soul parts*, they always answer in an evasive way: some of them say 12, some say 13. Just like the tribes of Israel.(Malanga’s answer)

* Soul parts refer to the aspect of being communicated with while the abductee is in the SIMBAD or FMS session. We separate out the mind, spirit and soul in order to connect directly to the soul part, which exists beyond time and space, and has the power to eliminate alien interference. In reality, we exist all as one consciousness, but for the purpose of freeing oneself from alien parasites we work with each unit separately to find the intrusive parts and get rid of them.

Q: 10. How come 12 or 13 in terms of a number?

A: There’s a story about the 13th tribe of Israel… 

Dr. Malanga talks about in the Genesis 3 article, as an example. The soul parts do not have it clear about this 13th type of PM, so maybe there are not 13 beings but 13 different species. Or maybe there are 13 PMs indeed, but I don’t know this for sure.

Q: 11. What about Dragon like beings? I’ve spoken to several individuals who had encounters with dragons. But they are rare. Some malevolent and some allegedly benevolent.

A: The 13 rare dragons might be related to the PM (fish-man -monster – draco) or to a set of confused perceptions mixed together. You know that our first perceptions of these beings are very difficult to grasp and get so distorted.

But the dragon type must be somehow related to reptilians and Ra taking on the form of the Egyptian Horus figure. Enki and Enlil are the two sons (but also main races) of Anu. One of these two sons is a reptilian.

Malanga divides these beings (aliens ) into 2 big categories:

1 – The ones originated in our universe (White PM, LUX, Insectoids, reptilians, 5 fingered blond, grays, beings with a physical component -body ) So the reptilian is a creation/son of the Primordial Man, the fish. Associating these 2 figures we can obtain the symbolic idea if there are 13 rare dragons.

Interesting that they are 13 :)

2 – The ones from the other (2nd/(mirror/dark-universeEL) creation (Black PM, beings with no physical component whatsoever like Ra, the Growl, the blue being) The blue being attaches to the spirit, while the Ra and Growl being attach particularly to the mind. All of them will overshadow the human spirit, because of their spirit component.

Q: 12. So the beings from the second creation are the ones primarily responsible for the incorporeal parasites? They seem nastier, more evil if you will. Are these beings in charge of the aliens they use to abduct and vampirize off our soul energy? (As well as farming our genetics)

A: Yes. Incorporeal black shadow beings are from the second creation. The LUX is from the first creation. All aliens with and without a body are under the control of the PM(1) figures or the beings above the Primordial Man.

Q: 13. Can humans be parasited by incorporeal beings only and not be actual alien abductees in the physical sense of being abducted? If so, how does this manifest differently in terms of comparing them to the symptoms of alien abductions?

A: Yes, it happens. Abductees mostly do not consciously remember abductions. So you really cannot tell the difference. If there are no implants, microchips, no AAM, then they are not an abductee. Implants, microchips, AAM and incorporeal parasites affects the way you think, and one’s perceptions. LUX entities can and do parasite and host soulless people, or soul disconnected people, in such a way that they manipulate mass public opinion, thoughts beliefs and religions. The popular opinion (about aliens, spirituality, etc.) is rarely the truth since the largest majority of people are not soul connected. Not everyone who possessed is interfered with by LUX. It can come and go.

What can we do? With understanding, and becoming whole again, we will naturally stop feeding the “shadow” as Jung would say.  Stop feeding the aliens and buying into the illusions they feed us. This is how we get out of this mess.

Q: 14. It appears to me that the most important thing here for people is to realize the nature of their divine soul consciousness.

A: Yes

This consciousness had been split into three components (by the Primoridal Man who created aliens, which in turn created the human body/containers). The three components are split into mind, spirit and soul (or anima). But in this split consciousness experience, we perceive reality as duality, or a virtual reality matrix kind of world.

EL: It appears that the Gods–including the Primordial Man, aliens, and incorporeal beings–their job to keep us locked into this “split un-integrated” consciousness, so that they can feed off of our soul energy while we are unaware or somehow believing it’s “good for us”. And in a life of abductions by aliens, we are in an enslaved state to continue recycling while they feed off of our souls. Once we integrate our mind, soul and spirit consciousness, then we also enter a new kind of battle with these beings who keep trying to “re-access” the abductee into their agenda. This can happen with physical abductions or be more subtle like in dreams, astrally or through channelled material that tries to lure us into worshipping them.

Q: Here is it true also– that this issue with aliens, is not only a problem for “abductees, contactees, experiencers and milabs, but the entire human race?

A: Yes, true. The duality is an illusion. From Malanga’s Genesis 1:

“Gods do not exist as we tend to believe.” These godly figures are merely “handlers” and manipulative.

  •  There are no good or bad alien. Aliens are just aliens.
  •  Everything is already written in myths (Not in manipulated official history)