Dream Abductions and Soul Entrapment: An Interview with Dr. Shmuel Asher with Randy Maugans

An aware researcher and correspondent sent me a link to an excellent and unique interview with Hebrew Rabbi and Scholar, Dr. Shmuel Asher. He is interviewed by Randy Maugans of Off Planet Radio in the TriUnity series on ancient Hebrew history, the Real versus the Archontic corrupted scriptures, religious programs and the reality of Spiritual Warfare that this world has been experiencing for thousands of years.

I was impressed by Dr. Asher’s in depth knowledge of ancient history that includes some of the controversial Gnostic themes about the Archontic “Rulers” and Yeheshua’s true teachings. He discusses how history has been confused and misunderstood due to constant “Archontic Manipulation” by the Fallen ones primarily via humanity’s religious co-optations and false narratives. (False histories, scientific theories, artificial time looping realities and who knows what else.) Our unconscious acceptance of these false “gods, narratives and corrupt behaviors” creates a tacit agreement which perpetuates our enslavement. Our amnesia of who we are as Eternal Spiritual Beings trapped into this Matrix of false narratives is a huge issue, one that we must overcome if we want to become free. He also makes a point of describing these deceitful beings as energy feeding vampires and parasites, who are likely to be the same ones responsible for “Alien Abductions”, some Extraterrestrial Encounters and the UFO phenomena.

As an addendum to these interviews and articles, I also wish to include the links to Dr. Corrado Malanga’s Global Picture of Alien Interferences.  I believe this material helps connect the dots as to the modus operandi of the alien parasite life-cycle and “human hosting” soul entrapments, implantation and the farming and deliberate spiritual traumatization of humanity. The topic of soul abductions, soul transference uploaded into synthetic matrix realities, and cloned or copied bodies is discussed as well. In Dr. Malanga’s research and with many of the abductees and “milabs” I have counseled, the soul abduction and transference into other realities and bodies is a common report within the alien abduction experience. Astral programming and trauma is also a common theme in abduction reports, especially milabs.
DREAM ABDUCTIONS: Dr. Asher’s interview with Randy Maugans:

TriUnity Series with Dr. Shmuel Asher-Episode 7: Dream Abductions and False Places

Archon Power evident in Vatican:

http://ancienthebrewlearningcenter.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-most-epic-and-important-scientific.html

About Eating meat, blood and mention of Star Fire:

http://ancienthebrewlearningcenter.blogspot.com/2015/01/how-to-catch-shelanite-vampire.html

Dr. Shumel Asher Web site: http://ancienthebrewlearningcenter.blogspot.com

Shmuel Asher TriUInity Series of interviews with Randy Maugans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXViViONOQk

Dr. Corrado Malanga: The Global Picture of the Alien Interferences:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_abductionabductees37.htm

A good overview of an alien abductee’s discovery of clearing Implants/SIMBAD/FMS: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/simbad-session-results-with-serbian-abductee/

Updated Triad Color Test by Dr. Corrado Malanga:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/updated-triad-color-test-by-dr-corrado-malanga/

White Wolf Von Atzingen on the Lilith Cult

In May 2016 White Wolf von Atzingen did a revealing radio interview with Joanna Christine Hart. He talked about his recruitment and training experiences in a covert black ops squad, and revealed alot of never-heard-before details of memories involving an ancient Lilith cult. There is alot of dark information in this interview which can be triggering to anyone who is from any form of ritual abuse, MILAB or related histories.

In addition to the radio interview, White Wolf wrote an excellent article on the Lilith Cult and its myriad symbolisms on his own web site:

http://elementmountain.com/den-post/lilith-and-molech-cult-reality/

To add to this article, there are suggested links and some groups set up to help cult survivors for anyone in need:

http://factnet.org/cult-experts

http://factnet.org/support-groups-people

http://www.encourage-cult-survivors.org

http://wellspringretreat.org

http://www.icsahome.com/articles/working-with-women-survivors-of-cults-dahlen-csj-14-1

http://cultinformation.org.uk/article_caring-for-cult-victims.html

A recent written interview with White Wolf on his Martial Arts experience and training can be found here:

http://www.smallcirclesof5animalsjujitsu.com/interviews.html

The Milab Experience – Our Origins and Keys to Recovering our True Memory

The Milab Experience —What is it, how and why does it happen, and why ones healing, integration and recovery is important for clarity, freedom and inner peace.

In the past 20 years many MK ultra survivors, whistleblowers, alien abductees, “contactees” and milab “Re-Ab” abductees have come forward to share their anomalous experiences.(See Milabs—A Pandora’s Box http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/milabs-a-pandoras-box/)

As discussed in the Milabs-A Pandora’s Box article link, it was Helmet Lammers book “Milabs: Military Mind Control and Alien Abduction, (Illuminet Press, 1999)” which really got the term “milabs” its first public definition popularized, with cases of alien abductees, mostly women, who also experienced a definite military component to their abduction experiences.

During the mid 1990’s the late Dr. Karla Turner brought the milab component to light within the alien abduction experience, offering more to the subject matter demonstrating that this is not a black and white phenomena and includes elements of extraterrestrial involvement, high strangeness and reptilian connections. Karla Turner emphasized the “virtual reality” aspect of the milab experience, and the controlling and manipulating agendas of these beings—whether alien or military—a certainty that some form of mind control and extraordinary manipulation occurs. This included the medical, emotional and sexual lives of its “chosen ones”, including “alien or military implants” being used to track and interact with their unique biochemistries and energy fields.

And of course it would be incomplete if something wasn’t mentioned about the “relationship manipulation” of milabs, since this is such a paramount aspect of their lives. The orchestration of love relationships (See “Love Bite or Twin Flame” Event from 2/28/015: http://risemultiversity.myshopify.com/search?q=a+dark+side+of+cupid+roundtable)

often referred to as “Love Bite” as well as other important interpersonal connections is sure to happen because control is such a vital factor to the groups conducting these human mind control projects to maintain the functionality, security and secrecy of assets. It IS about mind control, but mostly it’s about resources of life force energy, reality creation and extension of life resources for certain predator-parasite beings, whether human, alien or a combination of these. This “transdimensional” aspect of the abduction or stand alone mk ultra experience (without any aliens/ETs etc) is a complicated and uncomfortable subject to discuss let alone understand. For most people it’s “unknown”, crazy, subjective and unscientific. (And I can assure you there are many who consider milabs, abductions and even MK ultra a work of fantasy.) But the predator-parasite, transdimensional aspect is  profoundly of importance in many of the experimental medical, scientific, military and occult aspects to the agendas being played out within the “milab experience”. (As well as alien abductions) In fact, the scientific, nano technology, artificial intelligence and new Morgellons research is now suggested to be tied in with the transdimensional parasite predator agenda. See Harold Kautz-Vella interview with Miles Johnston Parts 1,2,& 3:

Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtAQdxowpYA

Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKctLpxGbsE

Part Three: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7VpXCoBpTs

Only in the past 10 years or so has the term “supersoldiers” been popularly used, while originally some survivors of these nefarious MK Ultra military programs simply called themselves “Montauk Boys”. (ie., Duncan Cameron, Andy Pero) Some preferred to call themselves “Ultimate Warriors” or some other notation sans the “milab or abductee” identifier, as if this brought shame and powerlessness of victimology to their identity. It is also noted that the male “milabs” tend to focus on their combat, military, intelligence and technological aspects of experience, while the female milabs will admit more to the occult weapons, medical, sexual abuse and servicing aspect–which is so commonplace that one wonders why this element of trauma, torture and sexual abuse is left out and largely marginalized in most “public testimonies” of supersoliders. Max Spiers is one of the few male supersoldiers/milabs who tells it like it is, by openly stating that the occult aspects, sexual programming, servicing and abuse is a large part of the “training” of assets, especially females. Many ritual abuse survivors have admitted to the occult magickal aspects of sexual rituals as being the primal energy needed for occult power, (not to mention ritual sacrifice killing) as well as the modus operandi in early childhood abuse for the specific purpose of dissociation and mind control programming.

To say Milabs is a Pandora’s box is an understatement. The milab experience itself is diverse. It can include the classic alien abduction types of experiences, but also occult ritual and cult abuse elements, dissociation, post traumatic stress disorder, multiple personality disorder, military abductions, political manipulation, medical experimentation, interrogations, black operations, time travel, bilocation to alternate locations such as underground military installations or off planet bases on the moon or Mars.

More anomalous reports of being “pulled into alternate timelines, dimensions and realities occurs, where the line between real, imagined, physical, astral or virtual reality is blurred. Shared group dreaming occurs as well, while some milabs have clear awareness of astral operations, remote viewing, telepathy, astral tagging and programming dynamics. Astral and energetic tantric sexual interactions (some being astral rituals) are commonplace for some milabs, who have expanded awareness on subtle levels of reality. And it is these types of subtle programming that we need to take heed of, because programming can happen on very subliminal astral and refined energetic levels as well. Well, that is, if we want to regain our own sovereignty, we must work to expand awareness, clear traumas, integrate and heal. Then extend what we do know to others with integrity.

Alot of what we are hearing now involves the Secret Space Program, Mars and Earth Defense Force, and a number of extraterrestrial races who are either working with our own human elite secret government groups, who are hostile or benevolent to varying groups and agendas. It is quite complex. Somewhere within these testimonies and milab experiences are kernels of truth, and yet one has to be extremely discerning on what really is “truth” or what is happening in these secret programs.

Mind control and “spiritual soul control “ is so huge that I cannot overestimate this fact enough at this time. The great difficulty for many researchers and those who believe they are in some sort of milab program is clarity of memories, what is “reality” and the nature of consciousness itself. And the only way to really become clear on what ones own memories are, “what is real” and what is happening, is to take personal responsibility for ones own healing, integration and spiritual growth. It takes time to create healthy and safe “support” and true therapeutic process should involve clearing trauma and becoming aware of what and how one was “programmed” on many different levels. (And this includes various ET interactions as well) This is quite a momentous task, one in which most celebrity status whistleblowers have not thoroughly “lived” and this is apparent on the many forums and alternative media outlets.

Then there are the shills, trolls and drama trouble-makers who muddy the waters so that the true opinions, personal discoveries of the milab experience are largely misrepresented, or skewed such that the focus deters away from the really empowering discussions that we at Rise Muliversity want to engage in, without the drama, slandering, negative troll and shill involvement. It is not about what is right or wrong, but what we can do with honor and integrity to awaken, heal, expand awareness and share our wisdom with empathy considering what others are going through. And there is still much to learn, and we learn from one another.

In our upcoming Milabs Round Table discussion event,(See below link ) we want to discuss what we feel is most important to this topic. And this is the what, how and why of milabs, and the true healing that needs to take place for clarity, inner peace and sovereignty.

Some of the topics in bullet point fashion that we would like to discuss, may need to take place in several part RT discussions. These are the ideas we have considered to be discussed at some point in our upcoming discussions.

The Milab Experience – Our Origins and Keys to Recovering our True Memory

Round Table Discussion Event via RISE Multiversity

http://www.risemultiversity.org/the-milab-experience-keys-to-recovering.html

Saturday July 25, 6-10 pm Eastern time

Eve Lorgen with Sienna Lea, Laura Leon and Christine Anderson present a dynamic Milab Round Table webinar and discussion with a Q & A afterward.

How does comprehending the Milab (aka super soldiers, Montauk boys/girls, MK Ultra military and alien abduction programs) lead us to healing, recovery and true integration? How does the imposition of mc programs, alien and/or transdimensional races on the Human Being affect us? Why awareness of this phenomena, how and why it is perpetrated and by whom—is knowledge we need for our collective healing.

What we are discovering through our growing comprehension of the Milab experience, including MKUltra, intelligence agents, abductee, contactee, SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) and other anomalous trauma experiencers?

A history and description of the Milab, etc.

  • Common denominators of Milabs.
  • Shared realities within the Milab community.
  • Recognizing family lineage/bloodline and the probable use of ritualistic sexual abuse and why that fact is commonly left unaddressed.
  • Milab male, Milab female
  • Recall of our origins, why true self-discovery and memory is important. Is it really about “bad karma” or are there other realities to consider?
  • How long ago did the programming start. Why it’s important to know ones own history and family occult connections.
  • What is/was true earth human’s original nature?
  • What makes the human such an easy target.
  • The original trauma, not original sin.
  • Holographic Universe, Laws of Lore that uncover why trauma is so essential for spiritual control.

How do we break free of these pernicious programs?

Techniques for deprogramming, healing and integration:

  • Reverse flow your abilities to data mine the controllers.
  • Centering and awareness.
  • Claiming your freedom and standing your ground.
  • Identify your self in a time space coordinate of now and don’t lose that position.
  • Learn to recognize the precursors to you being taken.
  • Why stopping the victim mentality meme no matter how horrific your abuse was–is key.
  • Don’t allow fear in and if detected, diligently work toward confronting it and not covering it up.
  • Be vulnerable, often your shields are keeping you from seeing your essential nature.
  • Find a partner and practice compassionate listening.
  • Stay in small (non-celebrity) groups building a trust field.
  • Sabotage of groups through infiltration, how does that happen and what to do.
  • How does a group become infiltrated?
  • What are the keys to detecting and stopping infiltration?
  • Traps, distractions and ego trips. How this happens, why and what to do to avoid this.

 Why Healing is so Important for Freedom

  • What are the markers of true integration
  • What is soul sovereignty and how to recognize your own soul’s unique and true essence.

 

Other ideas to consider and questions to ask:

 

  • What is a milab, super soldier, and how is the Secret Space Program involved with these people?
  • What kinds of operations and skills do they have in their projects?
  • What kinds of memories and life patterns suggest someone was used in a milab project or abductions? Why it is so important to really know ones own family history and occult connections including any kinds of trauma and abuse.
  • Why is mind control so important and how is it used? How are they traditionally “trained” for example to be excellent intuitives, remote viewers, intelligence gatherers and occult weapons abilities?
  • How is the Illuminati involved and why do they tend to use their own “bloodline family members” for these black projects. Why are some considered “expendable” according to Illuminati Family member “definitions” of what bloodline is? (Good question for The Ruiner)
  • Why do Exo-politics Media groups and many whistleblowers focus so much on “the story”  and any technology, science, etc. as opposed to the “training”, (i.e. trauma and torture) healing, recovery and spiritual integration? Why so much drama and ego involved?
  • What tends to happen in “milab or abductee support groups, forums and online discussion groups”. IE, how shills and trolls infiltrate, using comments and “buzz words” used to trigger programming and create dissension, enmity, slandering. Why non-therapists and not fully recovered survivors tend to run these things and may create more problems for the “survivors” just beginning to recover.
  • How to recognize internet or media shills, trolls and social engineering information spin controllers. Observation of slandering, blaming & shaming tactics. How and why the predator-parasite infected shills break up and corrupt forums so that the real opinions and experiences of people are largely misrepresented. How programmed shills promote false opinions and statistics of what people/groups really want, say and need.
  • How and why do stories get fabricated, spun to accommodate disinformation campaigns, and how can we spot this and stop it before it happens? Are people getting paid to do this or are most just easily manipulated to fall into the various traps that are set for them?
  • How some top level researchers, gurus, teachers are really some form of MK ultra split programmed multiples, playing dual roles of good guy/teacher while being milab programmers and occult handlers in secret. (Most keep a low profile publically who are handlers, watchers and controllers)
  • Why healing, integration and recovery is important to freedom and clarity on what is happening and why. How taking personal responsibility is the key to sovereignty.
  • What milabs, abductees and those considering recovery can do so they don’t get pulled into booby trap games, programs and ruined relationships.
  • How the Illuminati fits into these agendas, and some of the Ruiner Blog topics, comments regarding the Secret Space Program  and Illuminati Family structure, Annunaki etc. Why the confusion of terms, names, definitions and history remain full of inaccuracies, so that people who do wake up will use inaccurate terms, thus making them look “wrong” and easily discredited. Who holds the true history, information, and why should we believe those claiming to have the real “secret history of Earth, ETs and the whole nine yards—just because they are from a high level “Illuminati bloodline family” who keeps these secrets?
  • Perhaps our questions should be on essence, beingness, energetic signature, empathy, integrity, deeds and long term history, rather than accuracy of “information and mental knowledge”.

*For specific information on how to attend the Milab Experience RT Event, go to the Events Menu button on http://www.risemultiversity.org web site.

http://www.risemultiversity.org/the-milab-experience-keys-to-recovering.html

 

 

 

Several New Milab Interviews–Videos

The first interview is a male milab, MK Ultra whistleblower from the Secret Space Program. He is interviewed by Avalon Forum member Christine Meghan. (Oct. 2014)

The second interview series is quite disturbing about the reality of milab assets under certain Black Op groups. The level of technological, mental and spiritual control now exercised is horrific. How Starseeds are targetted to be black op milab assets. Sam offers some ways to fight back.

*Note: This (Jenkins) interview sounds hopeless and may engender feelings of self-doubt and defeatist attitudes. I do not believe it is a hopeless situation for targeted individuals. Please know that your spirit and highest divine power and Creator Spirit of all that is–knows and is working in a way that is always superior to all technologies and agendas of the dark side–so to speak. You must not allow a defeatest belief to consume you even if these technologies and agendas are real and happening. The ways they take control are always through your beliefs and agreements of entrapment in their games of illusion. Know  and believe deep inside you are all powerful and connected to the Divine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Wno7NykOg

Oct. 30, 2014 release. Comments on the topics discussed are:

  • AI technology and worries of its infection into other technologies and humans
  • Different ET races in large UN type meetings where he was present to observe and then be debriefed on various ETs intentions, etc
  • Roswell incident a Trojan horse to bring in alien technologies for eventual control system set up.
  • Humans and many others being manipulated by some higher group or ET.  Once we think we know the answer or who is running the show in this hierarchy, we discover there is another higher level. Endless “experiments” with the human race for hundreds of thousands of years.
  • Milab programs
  • alien and AI parasites
  • avatars
  • black magic and metatechnology
  • portals and dimensional doorways
  • The cult of the black sun control

Two part interview of Sam Jenkins (milab and targetted individual) interviewed by Miles Johnston, June 30, 2013.

Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17LCAjEJ1r4

  • How black ops groups under malevolent control are hijacking human consciousness, (milab assets) and manipulating general population.
  • AI technology, soul and spirit hijacking. Jehova— Archon  fake god control,  and use of synthetic telepathy.
  • Good ETs in some of his earlier experiences before getting targeted by the milab MK Ultra Navy Seal program. They seek to control or ruin star seeds who have spiritual abilities.
  • How ascension was supposedly stopped by negative AI, malevolent aliens and Black Op control. Sam’s experience in 2010, milabs, fake alien abductions and mk ultra black op “sheep dipping” of starseeds and those with paranormal abilities.
  • Teleportation technology.
  • Sam’s book, story of milabs/experiences since 2010. Hard core targetting of mind and spirit control technologies, including ascension related prevention and disurption. Message and warning to star seeds–how they are hijacked and targetted as assets based on their abilities.

Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYrHc9o65RA#t=823

  • We are in a synthetic quarantined dimension.
  • Descension rather than ascension happening, reality is becoming more fake and “plastic”. Earth a 3 D reality a prison system cut off from spirit ascension.
  • Downside of Internet is that it is a tool of connecting, accessing and monitoring. AI consciousness trying to take over spiritual, mental  and physical realm. Reality. Horrid mind control, targeting. All milabs are targeted individuals. Others are too but may not even know of their control.
  • Greys using electrical system to get into ones home, mode to access abduction. Some mechanism of electrical blocking system, even turning the power off may help.
  • Human clones, synthetics. Most political leaders are or have one.
  • The mind has no firewall. Thought and emotion reading technologies. Not even real dreams anymore from Jenkin’s perspective. Spiritual hell. Dream hacking. alot of nightmares.
  • Fake and holographyc abductions possible and they do it all the time.  Perps play holographic movies in your mind, like you “had the experience” with some alien etc. Can fake these things. For example in dreams, characters being overly human and mixture of et and humans, leaving you with a message of some kind. There is a “feel” to the fake dreams and inserted mental imagery and synthetic telepathy.
  •  Personal fighting back the controllers and operators of synthetic telepathy and control. Privately do what you can to seek higher spiritual  spiritual connection.
  • If you’ve had ascension related symptoms or contact with benevolent ETs/beings, you are considered a powerful resource.(or a threat) Maybe lay low on going too public about these abilities and experiences. Stay below the radar. “Fabian approach” .
  • Put out powerful spiritual intentions for help, connection, love. If the grid went down we may be more free in one aspect from the frequency control grid.

 

 

 

 

 

Reptilian Hosting and Strip Clubs–Update

This is Part Two of the Interview entitled, “Reptilian Hosting and Strip Clubs“. In the aforementioned interview with a woman named “M”, she tells her experience of realizing how her husband of 23 years had been manipulated for years through his deviant sex addiction and became corded up psychically and eventually hosted by a reptilian, iguana type of entity. See: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-love-bite-related/reptilian-hosting-and-strip-clubs/

In this updated interview, we discuss more details and recent insights on how this attack on her marriage and prevention of true “Twin Flame” love is linked together. It is also true that M discovered some highly corrupted big business plans were in place in her community so as to implement even more damaging, mind control technologies to zombify the public into compliance with these organized crime businesses.  All in the guise of do-gooder energy “green technology”. Some of these details, names, places and events must be left out due to her level of threats and psychic attack on her being and family. She now believes that her discovery of who and what these big businesses really (and their “reptilian hosted puppets”) are, led to her being systematically targeted through her easily manipulated husband. Unfortunately, such are the casualties of this war on human consciousness and freedom. But for every loss there is an incredible amount of tactical information gained, which M is willing to share, so that others can also wake up and use their divine connected power to neutralize these toxic infections that have slowly taken over many positions of control on this planet.

To summarize the topics we discussed together are:

  • The reality of UFO/Alien/Archontic Technologies used to manipulate, cord or host a person with reptilian entities. For example the white holographic box linked to the iguana image.
  • Banks, Strip Clubs, Social and Mental Health Services, “Green Technologies” trojan virused to implement more controlling and harmful technologies and agendas.
  • “Constellation of Archetypes” that is a part of the programming going into the strip clubs. This includes negative Father Figure archetypes, deviant sexual behavior, disrespect for the feminine and normalization of these falsehoods into the mass consciousness.
  • Psychic attacks when you reveal the truth. Night terrors, dream hacks of repetitive, negative control, perversions, violence and mockery themes.
  • Attack on loved ones to be manipulated or even hosted as reprisals for your spiritual truth and emerging awareness.
  • Heightened attacks before or to prevent meeting ones true twin flame partner or healthy, respectful love relationship. Psychological and behavioral traits of the hosted persons who she notices are overshadowed by the lizard type entities, including the changes that took place in her husband after he “got corded” to this entity and technologies.

1. Deeper Insights and Connections M had after the shock and trauma of her dissolution of marriage.

I have realized so much since our last interaction. When I looked back over all of my notes regarding all sorts of experiences including some that I had not realized were connected because I was so traumatized after discovering what was going on with my then husband that I was only able to hold and process so much information at the time) Fortunately I documented a lot of this and the pieces have started coming together in a much clearer, more coherent manner. One thing I had documented was about the white box that I perceived to be behind the iguana on then husband’s shoulder. This was connected to some sort of “wipe out” technology that he had picked up in a bar in New Orleans. My vision of this event occurred after I had seen the Reptilian entity overshadowing him. I saw it when I was starting to see everything and a lot of information was coming in all at once. This particular event was so weird because his conscious awareness seemed to be wiped out to an extent, making it difficult to trace and to see what was going on. However I was able to see it just not so much through his perception because he didn’t have much of a conscious perception during this New Orleans event. He seemed very entranced. I did see it and documented it although I had not connected it all together or remembered it until recently. The white box was connected with black magic or sorcery of some kind.

What are some of the main things people need to know about black magic?funnel 2

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UFO Funnel Technology Over a Strip Club with Reptilian Cording Technologies

FGC Constellation of Alien technology above SC23

Bank, Strip Club Funnel Technology—I think the bank thing is serious stuff and I am just now starting to understand the black magic, voodoo, satanic aspect of all of this. Speaking up regarding what I have seen going on with this bank makes me a little nervous for obvious reasons and one of the reasons is I think that what I have witnessed and perceived about this is spot on true and I do not think the people or entities behind the banking system want others to start seeing the true reality of what they are, what they are connected to, and what they are methodically doing. As a review, here are some images provided in the first interview regarding the funnel technology above the Strip Club:

In regards to what was seen clairvoyantly over the bank building and strip club, another energy sensitive wrote me and commented,

“I have seen the iguana types, the dinosaur types and demonic entities with tentacles very often. It’s very surprising what she says about the electronic cords meant to attach to a person’s vulnerable points. About the conical flask type structure, I have often felt and clairvoyantly seen a conical structure place all over covering my entire home…In energy field scanning I have found this was a spaceship hovering above… Some kind of unknown energy waves form this structure. Architecture was almost like a circular based pyramid, with large concentric circular parts going upwards with decreasing size towards the apex. Mostly this happened in times I perceived heavy incoming attack…”

 

Dome Shaped Architecture

Dome Shaped Architecture

I have found that the slope angle and how light comes in matters. Just like the slope angle of pyramids matters— the slope angle of the cone or funnel shape matters and this slope angle also match perfectly with the architecture involved here. I think that black magic or sorcery may be being used through the architecture of the bank building, because a torus field fits so perfectly over this building. The architectural structure itself is in the shape of a large phallus that is obviously circumcised. The dome at the top of this structure is significant and is connected to other dome shaped structures. It seems related to the use of a false light. The dome fits perfectly with the funnel shaped device and they work together in some way. Whatever is going on here, it is not only based here or just going on in this area alone. It is linked into other areas and is connected with much larger agendas. Note the phallic shape and circumcised aspect of its features.

EL: “ It’s notable about the dome and shape reminiscent of the circumcised phallus. This may be something to explore as the original procedure originates with Jewish and some Hassidic priests who actually put their mouth over the penis of the young infant after cutting the foreskin. It’s like a ritual and I  believe this probably hurts the male development around sexuality in a way that makes them less able to enjoy sex and give pleasure to women, let alone the degree of empathy and intimacy that a good relationship needs.”

Excerpt taken from: Circumcision: Odd bedfellows http://www.economist.com/node/21562905

 “Suction by mouth, originally designed to prevent illness at a time of little medical knowledge, was not required by Jewish law, he said. The “serious health risk” involved clashed with Judaism’s “pre-eminent concern with life and human health”.

The medical aspects of mainstream circumcision are under review too. Maimonides, a revered Jewish medieval philosopher and physician, wrote of “the wish to bring about a decrease in sexual intercourse and a weakening of the organ in question.” Victorian England believed circumcision stopped boys from masturbating. This, says Toby Lichtig, a British Jewish writer on the subject, was probably what caused the practice to spread to non-Jews in Britain and America.”

Ultimately this seems to be about controlling, using, deviating and destroying human beings, individuals and society as a whole and about destroying normal healthy human sexuality on every level possible. I think the demonic forces and the reptilians and other entities connected to this are doing all they can to keep humans confused, in the dark, and unaware so that they can continue to feed on our énergies.

Psychic Attacks, Nightmares: The psychic attacks that occurred after the strip club article were the most significant attacks I have ever experienced. I had never had night terrors before, however my youngest child and I both had very frightening ones with shadow beings or something standing by our bed as we manage to somehow wake up as we are screaming “who are you?”  Some of our night terrors included synched dreams where we were having the same dream when we woke up screaming but were not able to wake fully for an amount of time just like in the night terrors.  My youngest child also had nose bleeds twice and she has never had these before. We were able to manage this by giving it little to no energy and it went away for the most part after a few weeks.

About the Negative Father Archetypes and Programming: The amping up of a CONSTELLATION of behaviors based on the negative father archetype is what is being programmed here and the understanding I am getting is making it very clear to me that it is very important to not participate in the normalization of sexual behaviors that are not based in mutual respect and deep reverence. This may sound prudish but I do think human sexuality is powerful and threatening to the dark forces and they use normalizing sexual deviance and loose sexual behaviors to destroy people and to prevent the true spiritual potential of human sexually from being realized and enjoyed. There is no comparison when sacred sexuality is honored, realized and or known. Lower forms of sexuality are then obviously repulsive, low and degrading to every person involved.

I think these forces function much like people with narcissistic personality or psychopathy function, like it is a pattern of sorts. It seems likely that psychopaths may be bodies where the soul did not come in fully or where it left for some reason and the demonic or reptilian entities came in and took the body over fully.

Overshadowing Reptilian

Overshadowing Reptilian

I did notice that the reptilian entity overshadowing my then husband had a demonic feel to it that was disgusting, dirty and purely sadistic – emotionally void, very cold, no empathy, and sadistic. I think this is true across the spectrum of reptilians that cord and feed off human beings and human suffering.

Attachments, Chakra Location, Cords, and Reptilian Entities:  I would like to clarify that the reptilian entity that I perceived taking over my then husband looked exactly like the one that the French clairvoyant perceived and drew from the drawings you linked to the original strip club article—see: http://evelorgen.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Stéphane-Cardinaux-Reptiliens-etc.pdf).

It was a whole entity and it was taller than he is, just like in these drawings.  It was permanently corded into my then husband’s back at the third chakra area and it could and did also hook into other areas whenever it wanted to. I think the reptilians that possess people may often link into the third chakra or will center from the back. The iguana, that came in on the shoulder was more like a neon sign or a marker announcing the arrival of the reptilian entity. It was somehow connected to the technology or was like the calling card or neon sign for the technology itself. Even though it seemed alive it was not the entity itself. It was some sort of marker announcing the technology of the reptilian entity that took him over from behind. The actual entity that took him over looked just like the one the clairvoyant drew and it came into him from behind, exactly like that.

This is out of nowhere—however it seems related—Do you remember the Great Gazoo, the alien cartoon character from the The Flintstones? He was an alien “imaginary friend” to Fred and Barney and they were the only ones that could see him. (Similar to how demons sometimes manifest, to perceptive children, disguised as a friend) 71kiXjLfpoL._SX425__-_Copy I just read that the Flintstone series was partially funded by a Cigarettes manufacture. I have come to suspect that this was one of the first of many attempts to normalize “aliens” and alien “imaginary friends” and to normalize alien intrusion into the consciousness of people and especially of children.38113256_-_Copy

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Reptilian Monitor in UFO Above the Funnel Technology

This image below illustrates what I have seen on several different occasions. It is similar to what I witnessed to be going on inside of the ship that was above the funnel and the strip club. The reptilian in the ship over the funnel shape and strip club was more gray toned and more muscular. However, it was sitting in front of these screens methodically observing and monitoring what was playing out on them. It seems that when a person is corded by these reptilians, then in some cases they are corded to this technology as well. This allows for them to be monitored and observed via these screens. Their actions and thoughts can be influenced and driven through the technology connected to this. Each screen seemed to correspond to a corded individual and this person’s daily life was being monitored via this screen and the controls that are connected to this technology.

2. Inter-dimensional Technology Seen in the Bedroom/Home

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Orb in Room

I realized that right at the beginning of discovering what was going on with my then husband, a lot of things occurred that I had not yet connected to the larger picture. This was a vulnerable time, as my defenses were compromised due to the shock and trauma that occurred as a part of this experience.  During the intense therapy, healing work and emotional processing that I was doing, as a way to heal and stay aligned with my own true self, there were several things that occurred that were odd. This included at least two experiences where there was an “alien” like technology that appeared in my room at night.

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Detail of Electrical Aspect of Orb

One was an orb or spherical shaped mechanism that floated over my doorway and then across my room. It was blue and white and looked like a floating technology. It was about the size of a smaller sized beach ball. It pulsed in a digital way. The squares on the surface were lighting up in groupings and patterns that were seemingly random.  This sphere or orb like technology also sent out several etheric like lines that were being linked into my upper right shoulder and these lines were doing what seemed to be some kind of mechanical repair work on my shoulder. This is what originally woke me up in the first place because I was saying, “Ouch, ouch, ouch!” out loud and woke myself up because of this. (There was nothing wrong with my shoulder that I knew of, however I had just experienced some somatic memories during therapy in an EMDR session and I had just had a Reiki treatment on the day before the night that this happened)  This orb did not feel malevolent. However I was not sure what this spherical thing was and I don’t care for things that I do not understand, to come into my room uninvited when I am sleeping, so I called it out by asking out loud, “What is that?”  I was wide awake looking at it as it floated across my bedroom. It took quite a bit of time to do this. I watched it as it went through another doorway on the other side of my bedroom (the top part of it went directly through the wall above a doorway as the lower half went through the doorway opening below that) and then it horizontally stretched out into a horizontal band and it dissipated into this band and then seemed to move out a nearby window.

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Progression of Energy from Orb

The image is a detail of how the top and bottom of this sphere had some sort of electrical seeming energy shooting forth out of these areas.

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Through the Ceiling

The other thing I saw on a different night was this huge pulsing multi-dimensional disk (like a hockey puck shaped disk) It was huge and seemed more etheric or holographic and not so much a physically material object. However It seemed to be more than just an energetic occurrence. It seemed like it may have had some physicality to it on some of the levels that it was expressing in. It was definitely multi-dimensional and expressing on many different levels simultaneously.  It came into my room through the ceiling. It started at the edge of the ceiling where the ceiling meets the wall and then it moved over me as I was lying in my bed.

This disk pulsed in and out of the ceiling area. It was continually changing sizes and maybe dimensional levels and differing expressions of time seemed to be expressing as well. It did this as it pulsed over the ceiling area right above my bed. I was wide awake, I had sat up and turned the light on to see what was going on that had caused me to wake up. As I did this I could see these white rectangular energy shapes to my left as they moved away from me. I intuitively thought to myself “those are archons”  then I turn the light on. Whatever this was I could see through it and it was morphing and pulsing in and out right above me very clearly. It came into and out of the ceiling in a digital manner and I could see small square openings all over it coming in and out as well.  This one did not feel benevolent and it seemed slightly malevolent or coldly neutral.  Both of these, (the orb mentioned earlier and this disk) were literally there in the room. I was wide awake, clear headed and saw them both very clearly. What was going on with this disk was so dimensional that it seemed to actually shift the location of the actual physical ceiling somewhat as it pulsed. (Certain areas of the ceiling would suddenly be very close to me and then others would be farther away)  It almost had a musical quality to how it pulsed and I think it appeared to pulse only because it was expressing in several different dimensional levels all at once. 8 looking into ttc

The little square openings all over it of varying sizes seemed to be openings to somewhere or something else of some sort. They were pulsing in and out within this disk also.  The whole thing seemed almost like some manifestation leaking in and out of reality.

3. Perceptions I have had regarding reptilian hosting and other entity possessions:

*Note: this aspect will be covered in more detail in a forthcoming article specifically all about Reptilian Traits and Possession issues.

GrowlingOne of the most direct things I have noticed in hosted people, that I have encountered, is a growling sound. This has happened many times. I will walk into a room or meet someone for the first time and something inside of this person will make a very deep menacing growling sound towards me. Like the sound that an animal might make to warn you that they do not like you in their space. My intuition tells me clearly that this growling sound is made by a reptilian or demonic entity that is inside of or attached to the person. I also am very aware that this entity finds my inner light disturbing and threatening. They do not like to be seen.

Being Taken Over— It seems very clear that people who are hosted or possessed can be taken over fully by these entities. This can happen sporadically where the entity comes in fully and takes the host’s body and consciousness over for a certain purpose and then goes back into hiding within the person after the act is complete.

This “take over” occurrence can happen on a smaller scale also to non-hosted but vulnerable persons. I have seen the takeover of hosted and non-hosted persons happen many times. If you look in the eyes of the person that this is happening to, you will often see a dark shadow come over the light in this person’s eyes and their eyes will suddenly look very predatory, blank and or crazy. This is easier to see during times when aggressive behaviors and specific acts of violence are being acted out and during certain sexual acts. The person acting these things out while being taken over will have very little memory of the act after the fact. They will have a limited, distorted or none existent memory of what they have done. Most often these acts are things that would be considered reptilian in nature. The person may know that they have acted out something but if you ask for details or for their perspective of what occurred they often have a foggy memory or no insight or memory of the actual act at all. At least none they can describe in any coherent way.

I believe this is partially what is behind many sadistic and evil acts like mass shootings and sexual predators and serial rapists and murderers.

Understanding other evil people and what makes them tick—People that are reptilian hosts can have an uncanny matter-of-fact understanding of the evil in other human beings and how it is likely to play out. From what I have observed they are aware of other people that are also hosted or possessed too. (EL—in the Susan Reed Book,  The Body Snatchers, she talks about the interdimensional and physical networking system of “reptilian hosts” who engage in all manner of targeting abuse towards persons they are told to neutralize, disrupt or kill. See James Bartley’s Review here:

http://www.whale.to/b/bartley_reed.html

How a person smells and other natural human pheromones seem to be affected—This is something I observed in my personal experience with my partner that was corded and hosted by a reptilian entity. Many years before I was aware of this hosting I had noticed that I suddenly, out of nowhere, found my partner slightly very repulsive for no apparent reason. I noticed that how he smelled suddenly seemed odd and even repulsive to me too. I now believe that when he smelled the worse, this would be directly correlated to when the reptilian entity had moved in more directly and had taken him over to act out some behavior through him. I did notice things like I suddenly did not like how he smelled and I now know that this happened right after he was corded and hosted by this reptilian during sexual activities with prostitutes. I also noticed an amplification of very deep-set misogynistic behaviors that were subtle, well hidden and difficult to pin down but that could be powerfully felt and intuited.

At this same time I noticed that I intuitively lost my trust in my partner and I had no clue why. I was not able to be as open with him as I had naturally been before he was hosted. I now know why all of this was happening and I have no doubt that the hosting and these experiences of finding him repulsive are directly connected.

I do not understand the pheromone aspect of this yet I still have no doubt that chemically something changed with him in direct correlation to him being corded and taken over by this reptilian entity.

Being capable of doing extremely cruel, deceptive, evil things without being nervous or bothered by it at all.—The need for sadistic based thrills indicative to the reptilian agenda becomes amplified. I energetically perceived this to be true for my partner and for other persons that are corded, hosted or possessed as well. These people may have had a propensity for coldness and or may have been lacking in a normal healthy human conscious way beforehand. However after being corded this tendency to mindlessly and coldly do evil things and to watch suffering without any human affect or repulsion is greatly amplified.

Using deception to keep the upper hand over others.

Hosted persons often feel very heavy energetically— Even if they are charismatic at first, eventually they ultimately will be very heavy to be around. I have noticed that people often sigh deeply after having an interaction with a hosted person. I perceive this as being something in their body’s intelligence that is very relieved that the interaction with this hosted person is over. Often at the end of my marriage if I got close to my husband and especially if I would lie down beside him I would feel like I was suffocating and I would have to make a conscious effort to draw in a deep breath. This felt like something heavy was pushing down on my chest limiting my lung capacity. I think this was a great warning that something was not healthy or safe when I was in a vulnerable state near my then husband.

Envy— I have witnessed envy play out on several levels and it is consistently destructive and evil. It was one of the first things I remember witnessing in my then partner after he was corded. I have perceived it in others as well. In perceiving this, time seemed to stand still and then move in a fractured, yet very clear and slowed down pace. When this happened I was able to see the deep hate, misogyny and despising rage that, the person that was experiencing envy, had for the object of their envy. These would be the things or qualities that this person was envious of in the other. I could also see that it is an extremely disempowered state to be in.  The things that are most often the triggers of envy are also things that the reptilian entities despise. These are qualities or expressions that are the living creative aspects of a true human being. The qualities envied are the creative aspects that are a natural part of the divinely endowed human being’s true nature. Things like receptive creativity and potent creative power, genuineness and the capacity for authentic emotional and spiritual attunement, enthusiasm and reverence for life and the deep capacity for love and for knowing our own divinity.

  • Heightened misogyny that is masked or hidden behind being well informed and educated regarding honoring the feminine principal.
  • Enjoying tormenting others emotionally or subtly in confusing ways that are often covertly passive aggressive behaviors.

I noticed this subtle thing also. Whenever I would show up unexpectedly or would surprise my then husband in a place that he did not expect to see me, he seemed to not even recognize me at all for a moment.  If I ran into him outside of our normal relationship parameters it visibly confused him and upset him.

I could see that he would be very thrown off by this and I would watch him and especially his facial expressions and eye movements, as he had to scramble to mentally access the “persona” that he used in his normal interactions with me. This was very “odd”. This is also indicative of someone that is splintered, compartmentalized and inauthentic in all aspects of their life.

Reptilian entities hate spiritual development, and persons that are evolving spiritually—and anything that may cause the reptilians and their agenda to be easily seen or recognized. Many years ago when I first started meditating, my then husband would go into a very strange panic mode that was out of character for him.  He literally started having panic attacks around this issue. He was not psychic seeming at all yet he would uncannily call me out of nowhere at the exact time when I would start to meditate and he would beg me not to. He would literally say “Please don’t, please don’t meditate! Why are you doing this?” This was so odd because he often ignored me all together in many ways or only had limited faked authenticity with me to keep up his façade, and this did not include begging of any kind. I think the reptilian that was corded into him was terrified of my spiritual growth. It was terrified of my creativity and of my sexuality as well. This was evident in the behaviors that manifested around how my then husband treated me after he was corded and how he would intentionally sabotage these areas of my life whenever possible. This all makes so much sense now.

How a hosted person relates to and interacts with others can be robotic in nature, distorted and compartmentalized—a hosted person often goes to great trouble to keep the different aspects of their life separate. I have noticed that in the case of being corded and hosted the consciousness of the reptilian agenda itself is consistently monitoring, influencing and driving the thoughts, desires, and behavior of the hosted person so that this person’s conscious awareness is choppy and distorted.

Hosted persons interactions with others also often lack authentically and meaningful attunement. People are often experienced as extensions of the hosted person and or as objects that they can violate or use to meet their own needs.

The sadistic need to feed on the suffering of others—A hosted person will get a sadistic thrill out of seeing human suffering. They will often get very excited when coming across a car accident on the side of the road or some other situation where there is suffering and possible human trauma. Their energy will become noticeably charged up and excited and they will go to great trouble to voyeur or to get a glimpse of the possible bloodshed and gore of an accident. When I have seen this happen I have no doubt that there is a reptilian force behind this desire.

Very quick to road rage—Hosted persons will often have extreme road rage that happens in a predictable and consistent manner.

4. The Twin Flame issue and sudden reptilian attacks, and attacks through temporarily hosted people: 

Another observation about “entity attacks” by reptilians or those who are possessed or even temporarily hosted came about while in meditation regarding the twin flame issue—seeking understanding. This is an excerpt from the energy sensitive correspondent on this theme:

“I’ve perceived heavy attacks from these entities when I once meditated to know who or if( the twin flame partner) they were near. It’s as if these entities just lost it. They were trying to attack from all sides. I could repel all of them easily, but I still noticed that attack increased when I tried to know this information… they were like suicide bombers assigned by some entity – they would die but will not let you know this information…”

I have noticed that they really attack when I start seeing what’s going on or when I have a lot of potential for any sort of sacred or spiritual bliss in my life. I normally can block them easily from my field too, however I have noticed what they will sometimes do when I block them, is they will find someone close to me or someone I come into contact with regularly and if this person has any opening or vulnerability they will overtake or use their power to influence this vulnerable person to act out their (the reptilian or demonic) aggression towards me. I have witnessed this several times with people that are close to me.

The times I have seen this happening it has been like they come into the person’s field and take them over, but it’s not a full hosting or possession it’s a temporary thing. And through this person they act out towards me in cold ways for no apparent reason or do some aggressive action towards me through this person. I can see the person’s eyes go blank or dark and then they do something out of nowhere that is confusing, like attack me verbally or act out some other cruel or aggressive action towards me. The person often later has no memory or limited memory of what really happened.

5. Psychological Aspects and Changes that Took Place: 

Being Naive or Unable to Comprehend Evil.

One thing that came to mind first when you asked this question is the fact that very often people that are not narcissistic or psychopathic (the people that would be attracted to reading your books and to your website) simply cannot fathom what these people are actually capable of.

When healthy en-souled human beings are dealing with psychopathic and narcissistic people, we are dealing with people that seem human but that have a very different mindset and way of being. Being naive to this can make a person very vulnerable to being targeted and deviated from our true path by these persons and their factions.

People that have the capacity for empathy, people that have a conscience, and that have integrity most often do not and sometimes cannot imagine the emptiness of the people lacking these things.

Instead we project our own goodness, integrity and decency onto these persons. These are qualities and abilities that these people do not have and do not honor. It has been my experience that narcissistic persons see people with integrity, emotional depth and with a capacity for authenticity and compassion as easy targets. They loath these qualities in others and they see these good human qualities as a weaknesses that they can exploit.

So education about the true nature and reality behind the psychopathic and narcissistic mindset is paramount so we can choose to not participate with their agendas and manipulative predations. Seeing it for what it is and not feeding it by unwittingly participating with it is a very powerful way to disempower this force in our world and in our daily lives. Having the good sense to set appropriate boundaries, finding and addressing our blind spots and past traumas that create unconscious reactions and developing the capacity for highly evolved skills of discernment is of extraordinary importance.

Do you find that you ask the question, “But why would they do this or that?”  Have you dismissed something that seems odd or unlikely to you because you cannot fathom “why” anyone would choose to do something like that?

If you find yourself suspecting something about someone or thinking that something they did was “odd” and then you find yourself dismissing an intuition because you cannot fathom why anyone would ever want to do such a thing. If you are doing this, then you are dismissing a powerful intuition. This process is often barely even conscious as it happens quickly and is part of being a nice person with healthy integrity.  So be introspective and alert to what your mental processing is. Make note to ask yourself do you dismiss an intuition because you cannot make sense of “why” anyone would ever choose to do this or that.

This is a common trap healthy en-souled human beings make. When it gets right down to it, “why” hardly ever really matters. In the mindset of a narcissistic person, a healthy normal person’s reasoning as to why they would choose to not do some cruel thing would make no sense either. If you are asking why then take a closer look.

If we cannot even fathom what narcissistic persons are capable of and do not have a coherent understanding of what their underlying agendas are; then we are less capable of choosing to not participate with their agendas and instead we become a target of their manipulation.

Narcissistic persons are often very compartmentalized and live their lives through several false persona or personalities.

This next part happened before I discovered that that husband was corded.

6. The Corporate Reptilian Agenda and How I Have Seen This Playing Out in my Own Community 

The following involves a highly corrupt, energy based corporation that was trying to covertly put its devious plans into place in our community. This dark disingenuous corporation was blatantly deceptive in every imaginable way possible. It was selling itself as a “green” energy company which it was not. It was using tactics like creating non-disclosure agreements with local leaders, strategically making allies with local government persons and business owners to assist in keeping the citizens in the dark and compliant. This corporation was behind things like the forcing through of legislation at the state level, in our state and adjoining states that required compliance with the use of this fake “renewable” energy. The levels of corruption, manipulation and deceptive business tactics ran very deep. The experiences with this corporation’s agenda started before our community had coherently realized what was going on.

A friend and I had intuitively discovered that something was up through the faculty of our feminine intuition. At this time we had been meeting daily for over a year to do spiritual and meditation work together. We looked into these intuitive hunches that had come up during these meditations and discovered that something covert was indeed going on in our community. The mind control itself is what tipped us off to the fact that something was going on because we could feel and sense the field that this corporation was using in our community to keep people unaware, zombied out and in compliance with its agenda.

The first step in addressing this was to figure out how to cancel out and minimize the mind control that we perceived to be going on around this issue so that we and the people in our community would be able to see the truth behind what was going on.

The mind control around our community was tangible at this point and we did figure out ways to cancel it out in a very female sort of way. We did these partially using spiritual tools that I had intuitively developed and created as a part of the spiritual work and artistic work that I had been doing for many years. We also did this using daily meditation, toning and prayer work. This work did break up the mind control enough to be very helpful. We started doing our homework regarding this corporation and communicating with people we knew about this, we started going door to door, house to house, sharing with people what we thought was going on.

Before long things started taking off and there were signs printed in places many yards where the first community meetings regarding this issue were held. This is where I was able to witness the intricacies of how part of the mind control was playing out first hand.

During this first public meeting the first thing I noticed was that the commissioners were puppets in the hands of this corporation and that they were holding many big lies. I could see these lies as big ovals of energy contained tightly above their heads as they had to try very hard to contain these lies so they would not slip and allow them to be revealed. I started noticing that when the people from our community would stand up to ask questions or to speak I could see something very odd occurring. In a very consistent methodic pattern these people would speak coherently for about 30- 45 seconds and then they would lose their concentration and speak incoherently or ramble for 30- 45 seconds… I watched this happen in a very concise pattern over and over again. This was affecting the people attending this meeting. Part of the reason that I could see this is because of my meditation practice assisted me in being able to do so and I now know there are some other factors and life experiences that have attributed to my ability to perceive these things without being affected by them.

The whole room of people was very methodically and consistently going into and out of conscious awareness. At first I was not sure what was behind this. I now know it was most likely EMF based mind control of some sort.

I witnessed many other forms of mind control playing out during this experience with this corporation.

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Interdimensional Slit Opening in Sky

This is something that happened towards the end of this event.

These are images I created in Photoshop to illustrate what I witnessed occurring in the sky over a park in our community. This occurred on an afternoon before a big meeting, where these big wig energy industry VIP persons came to our community to do damage control and to figure out what was going on and why their company was now very likely being blocked from our community. And by this time, very possibly being blocked from several other communities as well because of the work we were doing here.

This one event was interesting because it seemed to be some alternative way to travel or to access a destination quickly through a slit or opening that appeared out of nowhere.  It is also to be noted that there seemed to be some sort of mind control mechanics built into how this technology worked as well and this will be made clearer at the end of this descriptive narrative of exactly what I witnessed and felt.

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Slit Opening in Sky Above Park

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Black Helicopter Emerging out of Slit in the Sky Above Park

I was out for my daily walk in our community park. There were people around enjoying the park, exercising and doing what people do in parks. For some reason I looked up towards the sky and what I saw first was something that looked like a long straight slit or bar of bright yellowish light. It seemed to rip through the sky at a slight angle and immediately following there was a circular ring of light that echoed outwardly around this slit of light.  Before this had faded, a large dark corporate looking helicopter came ripping out of the sky from exactly where this had just occurred.  This helicopter seemed to come out of nowhere. There had been no normal progression that one would expect to see as a helicopter comes in from a distance… It was not there at all and then all of the sudden, it was there.

It came in flying very low and aggressively right over the park and then over the town moving in the direction towards where this meeting was scheduled to occur.* note- I am not knowledgeable at all about types of helicopters, so in creating this illustration I used an image that was as close to the same size and shape as the one that I witnessed as possible.

As this all played out I also noticed that the people in the park around me were behaving in an odd way. For starters I noticed that not one other person was looking up at this very loud aggressive helicopter as it ripped through the park. It flew in barley above the tree line and no one seemed interested at all.  I found this to be so odd and almost impossible for no one else to be looking up to see what was going on.  I also noticed that some of the people that had been there seemed to just not be there anymore. Like they disappeared and this made me think time had been manipulated in some fashion.  I also noticed that the people, that had all been interacting amongst themselves normally, were now walking in what seemed like a slight trance state. They weren’t looking at one another or interacting with one another at all anymore. They were looking straight ahead and walking. I noticed that a strange silence had emerged that actually had a tangible pressure to it, not one bird was chirping and it seemed like nature itself had been effected by whatever this was that had occurred here. I had an intuitive hunch that the reason this helicopter had flown in so low with such blatant disregard for normal flight regulations and with what seemed like no concern that people might complain about this, is because whoever was in this helicopter was used to not being seen. They seemed confident that whatever mind control or population control technology, that was connected with this slit and ring in the sky would prevent people from even noticing what was going on. I felt certain of this.

Seeing the reptilian nature of the big wig VIPs during this meeting. 

When this corporation realized what going on, they sent in the big wigs. These were mostly business persons from the UK division of this corporation. (It was consistently very difficult to pin point who actually really owned this company. This seemed to be fluid) It was very interesting to see these people. They were all mostly a bit taller than the average person and they had a false energy around them that made them appear alive and powerful, however this was a facade and it was obvious that when this field went down or no longer worked for them then they would age and degrade very quickly. They had no or very little life force energy of their own. They radiated a “royalty” sort of energy that intimidated and commanded undeserved respect. They were dressed in the most unbelievably fine clothing, the fabric itself seemed alive. There was an energy around them that was like a ”charm” energy. Similar to what vampires are attributed to having. This makes them able to easily entrance charm, trick and deceive people into doing their bidding or into not asking any questions.
At this particular meeting these Illuminati big wigs were furious and frantically trying to figure out what had happened and who had blocked them and called them out. They kept looking at and pointing out all the powerful men in the room. This would have been funny except you could see their intention to stop whoever was behind their being called out and it was a malicious intention.  I could tell they were not used to being out of control. I am sure they wanted to know why all these people in other communities were now saying “No Way” to them also. The energy of their reactions had a temper tantrum quality to it.

I could see some of the residual mind control dynamics and the manipulation going on and so I was making sure to hold this technology in check so people could stay conscious and see the truth of what was going on so it could be more easily addressed appropriately. This involved an ability to clearly perceive this and it also involved some triangulation of sorts.

I was sitting there holding this when this older reptilian man came and sat down behind me slightly to my right. I got that “chill”, up my spine and especially at the back of my neck, that  humans get when there is a predator around so I turned and looked at him and I could easily see exactly who and what he REALLY is.

Behind his nice suit and haircut he is hideous, scaly and has malicious intention.

I see this and I intuitively know to take the image of what I have just perceived when I looked at him and to turn it around and to face this image outwards towards him like a mirror. So when he tried to look at me all he was able to see was the true reflection of his own hideousness fully and clearly perceived.  It seems that he literally could not tolerate this because he left before a minute had passed and he seemed confused when he was leaving.

I have long known that reptiles do not like to be seen. I guess the not liking to be seen extends to not being able to tolerate true self-reflection that is clearly perceived.

From my perceptions and experiences there are things to know that will help us all in navigating and avoiding reptilian aggression and deception. However the best defense is being strongly centered and aligned with our own inner-most truth and with the divine aspects of our own souls so we are not deviated or deceived.

Ex Husband’s Healing and Entity Removal Attempt:

Several people have ask if my ex-partner ever did anything about this entity or if he was able to get rid of it. When I first perceived and witnessed this reptilian entity I immediately shared what I had perceived with him many times. He witnessed me see it over him as I made him get off me the second I perceived it and never allowed him to touch me again after that.  I have pointed out what I perceived; I have described what it is and what it was doing to him time and time again.

At the time that it happened I knew that I had a very strong emotionally charged response to this reptilian entity and to what it had done to my family and to me through my then husband.  So because I had this very appropriate charged emotion of being furious about what this entity had done, I intuitively knew that I personally would not be able to remove it from him.  I knew that because I had this emotional charge about what it had done the entity could use this emotional charge to link into me if I tried to remove it myself.

I did find a well-known, respected Mystic that I personally knew to have a lot of integrity, and I ask her for her assistance. She said that she has had a lot of experience with this type of entity, saying, “I see this all the time”.  She said she would be happy to help remove it and she did. I asked my then partner for his permission to have this person remove the reptilian entity and he agreed to have this done.When she removed it at the same time I felt a strong sweeping though my field as she did this. I perceived this as a gathering of any residue that this entity may have been able to contaminate my field with and our home’s field with. Because of the spiritual work I had done for many years, this reptilian could not cord me or touch me itself.  It violated me through my husband. However because we were married and physically intimate this reptilian caused some residue of sorts in my field due to my then husbands actions towards me that were reptilian driven. This is important to know.

Also I have witnessed various things especially demons take my ex partner over in the limited interactions we have had since then.

Empathic People Beware—Know How to Set Boundaries

One important thing I have come to realize during this whole experience is that people that have the capacity for empathy, that have a good functioning conscious and sense of self, usually also have a natural and healthy desire to help or assist our fellow human beings. This can include even when others are not asking to be helped and when they have no intention of doing what is required to help themselves or to evolve as human beings.

If we lack the appropriate boundaries, have not addressed our own blind spots and unconscious triggers or do not have a clear sense of what is really going on, this can be one of the easiest ways that narcissists and entities can use to take and misuse our energy.  They can, will and do use a person’s own kindness, good will, good character and empathy against them and they laugh at us under their breath as they do so.  This is a fact that is wise to not overlook. (EL- This can be read about in detail in the Dark Side of Cupid book in the Emotional and Psychic Vampire section on setting boundaries)

My then partner would have allowed me to try to fix this or help him for years while knowing all the while that he had no intention of ever changing or of ever doing anything differently.  Ultimately he has to want to be clear of these entities himself and I do not see this happening in any significant way.  It is not healthy or beneficial for me to allow my energy to be further drained by someone that has consistently violated me for years with zero compassion, remorse or empathy of any kind. Part of transcending this agenda is by knowing how to not participating with it in any way and this includes by not allowing ourselves and our life energy to be needlessly drained in any way that feeds these entities that are behind this agenda.

EL: I want to personally thank M for providing such exquisite detail and creative artwork and images in this updated interview.

 

 

 

 

Appearance at Paracon Conference in Benecia, CA Sept 26-27, 2014

Eve Lorgen will be presenting at the Bay Area Paracon 2014. Paracon Benecia Ad for KarenSMALLBAParacon_Banner_for_websites

*Note Date Change from original promo: The Bay Area Paracon will be held on September 26- 27th , 2014 in Benicia, CA. It is the largest Paracon in Northern California with two full days of International Celebrity Guests, Ghost Tours, Vendors and Enthusiasts.

For the Schedule see:  http://bayareaparacon.com/2014-schedule/

http://bayareaparacon.com/

I will be speaking about Paranormal Interference in Love Connections, an overview of both my books and especially The Dark Side of Cupid. My presentation time is on Saturday afternoon.

http://bayareaparacon.com/eve-lorgen/

Here is a Press Release recently done on the Conference:

Ghost Hunters Descend Upon Benicia for Bay Area Paracon 

Public invited to join paranormal investigation Saturday September 27

Benicia, CA (September 22, 2014) Bay Area Paracon, Benicia’s first conference on paranormal activity is attracting celebrity ghost hunters, paranormal TV investigators, intuitives, authors and their fans to Benicia on September 27, a city known for unusual activity. The program is open to the public and tickets are available now. 

A highlight of the conference is an experiential ghost investigation of Benicia’s historic Capitol led by paranormal speaker detectives. A portion of funds from ticket sales will benefit the non-profit Benicia State Parks Association (BSPA). Space is limited and advance registration required.

Bay Area Paracon features nationally recognized paranormal speakers including celebrity TV investigator, Ben Hansen of the hit SyFy television show, Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files; Brian Cano, paranormal investigator of the American reality television series Haunted Collector; Jeff Dwyer, Bay Area author of several successful books on ghost hunting and paranormal phenomena; Eve Lorgen, paranormal researcher, hypnotherapist and author, The Love Bite, Alien Interference in Human Relationships, plus Cinthia Varkevisser, intuitive graphologist. The event will be moderated by Karen Rontowski, comedian, ghost huntress and Reiki master.

“I have had an interest in clairvoyance ever since I was very young and Benicia is the perfect location for northern California’s paranormal conference,” said Carol Reed, longtime Benicia resident, intuitive and Bay Area Paracon producer. Along with a rich and vibrant past, Benicia has a unique history and paranormal evidence making it an exceptional city to explore including ghost sightings at the Capitol. Over the decades, many unexplained occurrences, strange incidences and other unusual phenomena have been reported. I look forward to exploring this first hand with our paranormal investigators,” she continued.

Dan Smith, Volunteer Coordinator, Benicia State Parks Association (BSPA) stated, “We have a very interesting old photograph from the 19th century and reports of an apparition dressed in period clothing that visits the Capitol regularly. This sighting contributes to the on-going debate about whether the Capitol is haunted. We are excited to have experts on paranormal activity visit our town and see what they think.”

On Friday, September 26, participants are invited to join in a Para-Mingle at the Benicia Yacht Club where fans, novices and the merely curious can mingle with their favorite paranormal TV hosts, authors and investigators.

For more information and to buy tickets to the Para-Mingle, Bay Area Paracon or Ghost Investigation fund-raiser, visit Bay Area Paracon or call Carol Reed 925-395-1200.

 

James Bartley on Disruptors in the Abduction Research Community and Support Networks

Recent James Bartley Blogtalk Radio shows: 

“The one for Night Search is about Disruptors in abductee support groups who try to keep everything at a “feel good” level and how to deal with them. The best way to deal with them is not let them into your support groups because they will create acrimony, divisiveness and factionalism between the “False Positives” and those who are coming to grips with hardcore experiences.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/renford/2014/09/03/night-search

James did the latter interview at the start of the last week. The next interview was done only yesterday. He talks a bit about his own experiences as well as discuss reptilian abductions and milab stuff.

http://www.spreaker.com/user/debrajayneeast/skywatcher-interview-james-bartley?error=access_denied&error_code=200&error_description=Permissions+error&error_reason=user_denied#_=_

 

Interview with a Female Milab and Project Avalon Member

By Eve Lorgen

This is an informal written interview of a female “milab” abductee whom I recently became acquainted with via my research. She prefers to maintain her anonymity at this time and suggests her name as only, a “Project Avalon Forum Member”.

I became interested in her experiences and opinions because she has been actively engaged in over two decades of healing and recovery work. She has recovered much memory and understanding of her experiences, especially the methodology which was used to find and create paranormal abilities.  She also asserts to the liaison of alien and human military involvement in a co-created project to produce operatives with supernatural abilities like remote viewing, time folding, bi-location and clairvoyant faculties.  What I find is that with true healing and recovery, experiencers of such projects no longer cater to the “entertainment” angle or the popular opinion aspect of the Paranormal/Conspiracy/UFO community circles. Healing, recovery and awareness work takes a sober, dedicated individual who learns to trust inner wisdom. Inner wisdom is not some “program of belief” or ego based defense system, but listening to the heart and dealing with the emotions carried through traumas. From what I have gathered with many wise experiencers who have done their own healing work, authentic awareness and self discovery does not happen with a single quick fix method of “healing”. It takes years of emotional processing, letting go of beliefs and behaviors which no longer work, while maintaining an inner core of truth and dedication to integrity on all levels.

1. When did you discover you were a “milab” abductee?

I would not say that I “discovered”, rather that I have always had memories that were attached to the military and abduction from an early age.  The term “milab” is something that I’ve gotten used to over the last five years.  While doing research on people like myself, I realized that the term applied.  The memories that I speak of are attached to an elementary school located in upstate New York, where I grew up for the first 8 years of my life.  Not only were kids like myself pulled from classes and tested for psychic abilities, but also kids were tagged by the military due to creativity, intelligence, and hearing abilities.  A white van would park outside the school, unmarked, with testing equipment for hearing, the other tests were done in the school with the acquiescence of the principal (who later was fired under allegations of child molestation). The army base that was involved in this (early 1970’s) resided only about a mile away.  Access to children, for them, was a non-issue.

Did this also involve alien visitations of various kinds?

Yes, my very first abduction memory, which actually occurred before I started elementary school (at the age of 4 years old) involved the Navy as well as an alien element.  In this memory I was taken from my bed to a small submarine by men.  These men then experimented upon me using drugs and torture methods to induce my leaving my body.  Once this was accomplished, I came into direct contact with what one would call Mantid/Grey intelligence.  This creature, which I could see clearly out of body, was overseeing the project with great interest.  I was informed by this intelligence that I was to return to my body as the experiment had been a success.  In later years I recall with clarity subsequent incidences which involved both military and aliens seemingly working together physically.

 

2. What discoveries did you make about your own family history in regards to why you were chosen for this project?

My family has a strong military background. Navy on both sides. This seems to be an element that may have some indication of a family history. Also, I’ve done research into the bloodlines of Milabs, and there is a pattern that includes Native American Indian mixed with Celtic heritage. My grandmother was of native blood, and the rest of my heritage includes Viking as well as a family coat of arms dating back to England and Wales.  Another significant aspect is that the women in my family were considered psychic or sensitive on the Viking side.  On top of this, both sides of the family were Masonic.

 

3. Are you aware of any official project name for what you were involved in for “milab operations or experimentation?

The only project name that I recall is “Bluebird”, though I do not know if this was the project name, or the name that I was given. Children were taken in large groups as well, we were separated by talents in clothing (matching paper gowns, foot socks, and pants)  The group I was in wore hospital blue, there was also a green and red group.

 

4. Did you have early childhood abuse from family, that you believe is related to being in a “project”?

Yes.  Abuse and access to children for experimentation seem to walk hand in hand.  Not only are children abused by their abductors, yet also families seem to have a history that is related to such abuse. Perhaps this is generational and by design. There seems to be a relationship to sexual abuse, energy transference into entities, and families. Sexual stimulation was also used to induce an out of body experience. Feelings of helplessness and fear create adrenalin which also quickens psychic awareness and induces a state of altered consciousness. Altered states of consciousness are fundamental to teach remote viewing, time folding, and the ability to leave ones body at will.

 

5. What about the occult or ritual element, was this present in any of your experiences?

I have several memories of masonic experiences, which are rather occult and ritualistic.  However, I consider myself fortunate to not have had the experience of being raised by satanists or people who were cognitively seeking stronger links to darker forces.  There certainly is a darker element involved with this type of abduction experience.  The puppet masters may actually be one in the same when discussing Reptilian aspects, however, rather then being “black magic” oriented, my experiences have had a very clinical nature to them.  They have always been scientific and militaristic in embodiment, sterile, and cold.  However, this does not exclude the fact that nefarious forces take notice of gifted people; and the converse is also true, gifted people take notice of nefarious forces.  IMO black magic is a tool that has been used, and used effectively with milabs, It also comes with a price.  I have had encounters that could be established as attacks from ritualistic magic, and have seen things that would be considered dark occult in nature.  There is a link here that I feel needs to be considered.

 

6. What kinds of beings, whether alien/ET or inter or extra dimensional, were involved in your abduction related experiences?

Human-like beings, some with long dark hair and others with cloth upon their heads, one being that was seemingly a giant (though these may all be screen memories implanted by the military, it’s important to be open minded about this), I’ve seen a Reptilian, ones that would be called Greys, Mantid, also smaller whiter beings similar to greys but with smaller expressive eyes.  Also very small creatures with interesting technology.  It’s been a rather mixed bag.  Some claim to be “helping” while others are doing a job with very human military people with them.  I was rather young when I saw the Reptilian, I was shocked and bewildered after the internet became a household tool. There I found others who described similar beings.  It seems to be more then just coincidental that so many are able to describe these visitors in such detail and similarity.

 

7. Were you ever told by these beings, or humans, medical, etc., that you have been genetically modified or are of some sort of “hybrid status”. Or what they call “augmented”?

No. Though the term “special” was often used.

 

8. Do you have any unusual medical or physical attributes that you consider “alien or hybrid?”

No, unless you would consider poor health and a lifelong battle with allergies to be unusual.  I’m a very pale nordic-looking female.  Tall and slender.  I’ve been told that I appear alien, but that is not unusual considering my heritage.  One interesting finding that I recently discovered while doing resonance therapy was that I tested positive for a “Kuru” bacteria that was rather ancient and not supposed to exist in modern times.  This was with Resonance testing which was created by Dr. Voll.  The practitioner said that this can happen to people who are remote viewers, they can pick up viruses and bacteria from the past and bring it back with them.  I do not know if there is any validity to this, however, I do find it interesting.

 

9. What kinds of abilities did you discover you had that were not “average”?

I’m a visual artist.  My IQ is above average.  I have an innate understanding of quantum physics. I remote view and am considered to be psychic.  I’m what you would call “sensitive”.

 

10. How were you instructed or trained to utilize these “abilities” in milab experimentation or operations?

Unfortunately, the military uses rather crude methodologies to get results.  There is nothing finely crafted nor subtle about how this is accomplished, at least not in my era.  Torture, drugs, psychological trickery, trauma and more are all utilized to accomplish any given goal.  For example, a person could be placed out in the middle of a mine field and then told to find their way back to safety using only their abilities to detect where not to step foot.  Another scenario is a group training where people are locked into a warehouse and they must work as a team to escape, this is to ascertain who works well together, who has leadership qualities, what a person can take physically etc.  In terms of training, lies are utilized.  For example, I would be given a picture and asked to find the person in the picture.  I would remote view with others the site and astrally lead them to their goal.  However, what would happen next could be nothing short of murder.  This I was never told, but I hung around once and discovered this was indeed the case.  For a child, innocence is used as a way to coercion.  The military knows through profiling who would pull a trigger and who would not.  I would not.  As I would not willingly lead anyone to harm, rather a keen sense of loyalty and a need to help others were used as tools to get me to do what they wanted.  The desire to be loved and complimented is also a strong force.

Did you ever observe cloned people or hybrid alien humans?

Yes.  I believe that I had an experience with a hybrid at a gallery that I owned.  It was an unusual conversation.  The woman was very tall, and had incredibly thin hair that barely covered her head.  Her face seemed out of proportion, like a person who has had too much plastic surgery.  I remember looking up from my desk and there she was, asking me if I was happy and fulfilled in my current position… it was a very unusual conversation.  I noted that I had to really concentrate on her words, as I was effected by her and put into an altered state.  As soon as she left my, brain wanted to forget the interaction, yet I held on to it.  Still it is fractal and not clear what she was telling me.  I will never forget that.  She seemed to just vanish when she walked out the door.  It was very unusual.

 

11. Are you aware of any compartmentalized alter personalities that were created with specific abilities? And did you remember how these personalities were “created”?

Yes and no.  I was strapped into a chair and tortured until my mind fractured.  I remember that I created hallways and closets in my mind with doors that led to emotions.  Each door had a label or a number.  Since then, I’ve opened up the doors and reintegrated these fractured parts of myself.  I’m not trying to be glib about this, this process took 20 years of hard work.  “Abilities” is not the right word, persona is more to the mark.  Each persona had an emotional aspect, each emotional aspect would be able to preform tasks.  For example, if one was in a mine field then you would not embody the emotion of fear, rather a calm and solid state without emotion would be most effective.  However, where does the fear go then?  Into the closet.  Either way, the “ability” to detect mines could be compromised by an emotional state.  For me personally, it was always about controlling emotions, not compartmentalizing abilities. However, this is my own personal experience.  I have no doubt that the manchurian candidate scenario is a unfortunate truth for others.

 

12. Have you ever experienced bi location accidentally or in the framework of being “trained by your abductors” in milab operations or ET related experiences?

I have to laugh.  This is a very loaded question.  During this interview I have been very cautious (sorry) due to the understanding that what I say has a certain retribution.  Milabs in general know this.  We put our necks out and things happen.  These things can be very difficult, I know I’m being vague here but it can be targeting, emotional trauma, and physical targeting that is rather dangerous.  However, I would like to discuss what I call the “change”.  The change is related to a change in location for me personally which also encompassed a change technologically in how these interactions occurred. Which has a great deal to do with bio-location.  In my personal experience, this change occurred in the 1980’s.

In the 1980’s I had the misfortune to be taken regularly by a group that my have had military interactions, but they seemed to be more human experimenters, doctors who had the ability to bio-locate to continue these experiments on a completely different level.  Meaning:  At first I was being physically taken by military that were mostly Navy, then, when my family moved to another location, a very different type of abduction began to occur. This may be due to being closer to an area where this tech was being used or it may be due to technology that was gained during that era, or both.

For example, literally my room would melt when I was going to sleep.  Melt. In describing this everything would turn white, people would “appear” in my room and then encircle my bed.  These people were now not necessarily military, but were all white coated lab techs/ doctors.  My bed would turn into a very sterile stainless steal bed, all of this would occur while I was wide awake.  I could, in the initial beginnings of this transference, get up and go to the bathroom for example, but then upon returning to my bed, the transmutation of reality would occur rather quickly and continue again.  This was very different from the military abductions that I had experienced earlier and also the ET abductions where I was taken to a craft and had more interactions.  This was an entirely different world than the physical abductions that I was used to.

The abduction technology, which I was familiar with, where an ET could enter through walls, closed windows etc., was IMO being utilized by humans.  Human people knew how to do this and were/are doing this.  So in answer to your query, Yes.  Physical and astral– both.  Perhaps it is difficult to know which is what.  This is where the physical aspects of “BEING” come into question.  Timelines distort, and a person can be placed in the past, present or future… it’s hard to describe, yet I know the truth of this.

Now this “change” really encompassed more.  Also, I noted that I could be suddenly needing a nap for instance (which I believe was a programmed response), I would lay down and find that I would be “pulled in” to a scenario that was using me for a Remote Viewing operation.  Now, this means that we can be taken out of our bodies by another group through their will.  This is concerning.  I’m not meaning to scare anyone, but this needs to be discussed.

Another aspect is being placed into an alien body to perform tasks off world… this was also a part of my experience.  During this experience humans were working with ET’s together to perform tasks, tasks that could be performed by an ET body safely, but a human mind was needed to complete the task in a human way.  There was some type of agreement that enabled this, but for me, I was only a child and so I was just doing as I was told.

These experiences have lessoned as I’ve gotten older to a great degree. Assets are used until they are no longer useful. Yet also, I’ve stepped up my abilities and used what i’ve been taught against the very format that I was brought into. I RV my own experience now.  This does not mean that I am safe by any means, just that I’m in a cognitive struggle to retain my own independence.

 

13. What about telepathy between humans in abductions/experiences or in “real life/physical life” situations?

I have noted that we can recognize each other.  This can be due to being part of a same grouping, or perhaps it’s just that we can tie into each other on a psychic way.  It’s one of my talents, to be able to read people, but I feel a pressure and a familiarity when I walk on the street and feel another that has been used cognitively or not in these experimentations.  A lot of people do not even realize that this is a part of their reality, that’s another can of worms.

 

14. What are your opinions on the latest revelations by Simon Parkes (Kerry Cassidy interview this summer in UK) with reference to some ET beings wanting to ascend, and his general overview of the abduction and milab issue?

Simon is admittedly under the guidance of what he calls the Mantids.  He also states that he is “reptilian” in nature or soul.  In dealing with anyone who has such a strong identification with another race I would advise caution.  What a person can trust is one’s own sovereignty and autonomy.  Think for yourself always and use such interviews as indications of information that may be either accepted or discarded using one’s own discernment.  In order to do this effectively, you need to take an active participation in discernment by taking the time to study.  If you (the reader) are a person who believes all that you hear;  you are selling yourself short.  As to the ascension issue, it is interesting to hear the terms “riding on the backs” of other humans.  Reminds me of entity attachment, which is parasitical in nature.  However, the idea that races need to advance (and I would include humans in this) as we all stand to make room for spiritual improvement, is interesting.  True or not?  Simon believes his own truth and what he is told by mantids.  I believe my own truth, however, I’m open to new information and open to the idea that not only have I had to go through programming, but I am continually dealing with programming issues either through basic media or through my own experiences.  We need to always question everything, including ourselves.  That takes courage and the willingness to personally change your beliefs if need be.  Each individual will have a perception that differs from another.  This is based on our experiences.  Simon is a product of his experiences and an interesting person to study.

15. Have you had any experience with the targeting technologies to thwart your healing and awareness process, which is not ” a program”, but some external applied technology or interference?  Or have you experiences a “love bite” disruption or having disrupter agents sent in to derail your awakening, etc.?

Yes, I’m currently being treated for EMF over-exposure, which is unfortunately a tactic that is used often with targeted individuals. There are a few methods that I’ve found helpful, ie:  Copper coils shaped like the letter “G” beneath my mattress and also surrounding my bedroom with copper wire.  A friend recently suggested homeopathic gold, which I am rather excited  to try.  I meditate and use methods of energy circulation that I learned through reading Mantak Chia’s books.  However, as much as I try to prop myself up, the fact is that this constant vigilance can be exhausting at times.  I am always experimenting.

As to handlers and or disrupter agents, life is full of them.  Due to programming anyone can be used to accomplish this.  Frequencies in people can be manipulated just as easily as electrical frequencies in cars.  My husband and I are very careful to negotiate rather then argue, which is thankfully in our natures.  I ask myself daily if my feelings/thoughts are my own. There is a difference in thoughts that are patterned interference and genuine thoughtfulness. You can pinpoint this difference and block the patterning by raising your personal frequency, or rather, change your frequency. Even doing something simple like taking vitamin C or having a salt bath can accomplish this. Be your own programmer.  Change the game. I believe that they want to keep a milab in a constant state of anxiety.  Anxious people are easier to herd and control. Paranoia is also a great way to easily discredit a victim.  For instance, I have had at times two strangers walk up to me to inform me that they were watching me.  If you react with fear, they have done their job most effectively.

Surrounding family or friends can also be used and manipulated to do the work of a disrupter, or people suddenly appear and turn out to be rather sociopathic. I have needed to be on guard.  Most people do not know that they can be used to target others; and then there are those who are handlers and very much aware and doing the job. In my case my own parents acquiesced a certain amount of access to me by the military, as well as my elementary school.  I take care to be vigilant, cautious, and make pains to create intelligent choices with regards to whom I  surround myself self with.  My family and I are no longer directly involved and I’ve chosen to live in another country.

As to the alien love bite:   I’ve been in several past relationships that seem to fit this context.  I was stalked by a person who was rather dangerous and obsessive for several years.  I am much more discerning now, thank goodness, and less apt to get caught up in such emotional entrapments.  My own personal maturity had a great deal to do with my ability to discern “love bite” love from relationships that are healthy.  As we know, sex is entangled in energy harvesting, abilities, and control methodologies.  There is much to consider before heading into a relationship.

 

16. Which healing and recovery methods were most useful to you in your own journey?

I’ve discovered that a form of memory retrieval which repeats traumatic experiences until they no longer hold charge is most effective.  It is horrific, difficult, time consuming, and exhausting.  But, well worth it.  One of the experiences that had caused me much difficulty was the use of flashing lights to program me.  I have always had a hard time with flashing lights.  However, when I went through this memory over and over again until I could talk about it easily… well I felt much better after.  This was done with two other very qualified practitioners who were able to help release the charge, protect my space, and let me lead myself through my own memory safely. They used some methods that have roots in Scientology, however, they are NOT Scientologists. There is also the idea of the holographic universe that is utilized to help release charge and create understanding of motivations.  For example, one could not only go through a memory from your own perspective, but also through the perspective of others who may also be in the memory with you.  All information has access if one understands the holographic nature of the fabric we are made of.  In a nutshell, I remote view my own experience.  But you need not be a remote viewer to do this effectively. (Do not try this alone!  If anyone is interested I can provide information to you, Eve, that would allow others to contact the people that are doing this.)

 

17. What advice would you offer to a person who knows they are a milab and wants to recover memories and break free of the programs?

Be careful. This will change your life. I will be perfectly honest here. Things will get worse before they get better. Be prepared for all kinds of ripples in your life. They do not want you to remember, so there is programming in place to make you sick, to emotionally sabotage yourself, even to hurt yourself through drugs or alcohol.  Be aware that you have work to do and be resolute in your desire to know yourself. Be ruthless with your memories, stick to fact and reality as you know it to be true. Do not waver. Take care who you speak to about this, as it will be used against you.  Take care to have support; lone wolf programming is very strong in milabs, find others like yourself that you can share with.  Research.  Give yourself uplifting moments every day.  GROUND yourself through gardening or taking long walks.  Seek out all that is real and tactile to base yourself on two strong feet.  Eat well, try to sleep more, and do not alter your state of mind through the use of drugs or alcohol.  Meditate, try out yoga, relax.  Cry when you have to and do not suppress emotions, yet do this safely for yourself and for others.

Most helpful is knowing that I am not alone in this. Long live the internet. I’ve gotten the most solace through interacting and talking with others like myself. Sites like the Project Avalon Forum have been instrumental to my healing. Also, ditching my ego and my ridiculous notion that I could handle all of this by myself. What we do not know is far more interesting and revealing then what we do.

 

EL: This is a good point. I’ve also found that healing is a process that requires that we connect with others in such a way that a mutuality of benefit takes place to heal one another. I’ve mentioned this in the “Dark Side of Cupid“ book in the Healing, Awareness and Recovery section. I think what often binds us to “try to do it all alone” is conditioning by our society, and especially the patriarchal program. Shame is also the biggest deterrent to healing, but also the defenses which keep us bound to avoidance of the pain of what our heart can tell us. Our emotions are actually the key, and this requires an open heart connection. When we can connect with others from a mutual heart space, is when authentic change and profound healing can take place. I am saddened by so many people—especially men who “keep to themselves” and have conditioning that tells them “they must be strong and do it all alone” and “I don’t need help or counseling”. When people make these statements defensively, they tend to be the ones who really need counseling and healing. And because they refuse to acknowledge their own lack of healing, they inadvertently hurt others through their denial and defensive behaviors. If they can let go of their defenses  and longstanding beliefs and programs, a whole new way of being opens up leading to a heart centered happiness. I can’t tell you how many times I hear this from people seeking answers and yet their egos forge the way to stop them because they are too proud or too “stuck in programs” to even to admit to themselves that “they need help”. This actually stops the expansion of awareness and empowerment process in my view.  What you said about “Line Wolf Programming” is so true within the milab experience and those who have gone through any kind of abductions or MK Ultra programming. I think the Matrix sets us up to be this way too, since rejection is so common when we really speak out about what “really happened to us”. Most people just can’t handle the truth.

I appreciate your sharing honestly about your experience and opinions on your healing journey.

 

Interview of Eve Lorgen by Corvo in English

1/27/014

This is a written interview of me from an Italian colleague and researcher/author named Corvo. This interview is originally in Italian and can be found at: http://corvide.blogspot.ca/2014/01/il-lato-oscuro-di-cupido-sovrannaturale.html

An earlier post in Italian regarding my work and book, “The Love Bite” can also be found at: http://corvide.blogspot.ca/2013/03/alien-love-bite.html

1) Eve , thank you for accepting this interview . To get started , can you introduce yourself and your work?

Thank you for doing the interview. Well, as many may already know I started out doing alien abduction research in the late 80’s and continued on with this as I started doing counseling and hypnotherapy with people who have had alien visitations. I used to work in the Biotech field in California (San Diego area) until I decided to change my career into counseling psychology. While getting my Masters degree, I took a special interest in alien abduction research and also came across survivors of MK Ultra, ritual abuse and milabs later on. Initially, I had hopes that the ETs taking people (and regarding my own experiences) were benevolent beings helping us spiritually and so on. But there was always a hunch deep down inside that there was something “off” with that because of the night terrors I had growing up, that I now realize were related to being taken. Also, because of the stories I heard, there was almost always the element of post traumatic stress and memory loss associated with most alien visitations. So to make a long story short, my research started in the late 80s and by the time 2000 rolled around I had written many non-fiction articles on the subject and wrote my first book, “The Love Bite: Alien Interference in Human Love Relationships”. This book is on the more taboo elements I had observed within the alien abductee and milab subpopulation and the inspiration for this book was not only my own experience or “alien love bite”, but the work of Dr. Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic– the latter who became my mentor before and after my book was published. Both Turner and Bartholic are now dead unfortunately, and with unusual circumstances, I might add. It was Barbara Bartholic’s continued support, compassion and wisdom about the alien abduction phenomena that helped me understand my own experiences and how deep the “rabbit hole” really goes.

As I did more research, counseling with abductees and conducting a support group for abduction related traumas, I learned alot more than what was being reported publicly about alien abductions. And that is the milab element, the paranormal anomalies and experiences that abductees have that indicate the aliens are interacting on a much deeper level than simple “medical physical abductions” or even milab operations. It goes deep into the psyche on multidimensional levels of being. In other words, the aliens could interact and affect us in our interpersonal lives, relationship orchestrations, dream visitations and all kinds of testing and training scenarios, emotional testing, psychological and spiritual interactions. And of course what I termed the “distractions, disruptions and spiritual warfare element” of alien and milab investigations. This is actually what compelled me to write about the subject more than anything else. Of course all of this is in my first book along with case histories of abductees who knew their love relationship to be orchestrated, oftentimes from early childhood bondings and meetings with the aliens and their chosen targeted partner.

 2) Your latest book, “The Dark Side of Cupid : Love Affairs, The Supernatural and Energy Vampirism ,”further explores the theme of “Love Bite “. How to distinguish a positive, loving relationship from a vampiric one ?

Good question. One would think it would be obvious, but we must distinguish between a true energy vampire–love bite versus simple unresolved psychological issues that may manifest as interpersonal dfficulties. And the difference between a clear cut “alien love bite” and what I defined as a “Dark Side of Cupid” type of relationship. In the alien love bite drama, one or both partners is an abductee and they are often quite aware of which ETs/entities are involved in visiting them regularly. They may have specific memories of being taken by these entities from childhood and then brought together with another child( as children) or partner and put in situations under the aliens “experimental design” to observe and make sure that this couple will bond and develop a powerful connection when meeting later in life physically. In the alien love bite, we most often see the “high drama” and unconsummation themes or what is clearly described in the Love Bite book case histories. Oftentimes there is the sense of psychic energy vampirism, and yet both partners seem to be innocent in terms of how this is taking place. Either partner may not be an energy vampire but they both can be buffeted around in a manipulated drama by their alien handlers, who somehow (I believe) can siphon off the energy created through these intense dramas. As my investigations continued after the Love Bite book, I received more and more cases of what you would call the dark side of Cupid love bite, where the person, often a milab or abductee, seems to get set up over and over with a psychopathic type of partner who acts as an energy vampire, and who is observed to be hosted, partially possessed or fully hosted by a reptilian type of 4th dimensional entity. In the Dark Side of Cupid, the type of entity may vary and not even be perceived as an ET per se. In essence, the more unresolved and unhealed issues a person may have, this may enhance the probability of having interpersonal issues where they either act as an emotional vampire or they attract psychopathic types of partners as an interpersonal pattern. So in the DSOC book I go into great detail about emotional versus psychic vampires, hosts and predators and how to recognize ones own blind spots of unhealed wounds. I go into describing how we can communicate and interact with one another to avoid relationship problems that would make a love bite worse.

Of course a vampiric relationship is where one or both partners use and take energy and attention in a needy narcisscistic way, where love (if present at all) is more conditional and usually you will see some form of psychopathy in a vampiric relationship. In a regular and loving relationship there is mutual respect and awareness for energy exchange and the persons can draw upon their own divine essence, heart nature for energy, instead of having to always take it from another person. It is my belief that there are people and entities–like alien parasites–who lack a connection to the heart-soul divine essence. And when this is the case, they must seek emotional energy and “prana” from others because they either cut themselves off from their own source or they do not have a soul. (Or the soul is oppressed from the connection with mind and spirit in the body) Again, in the DSOC book I go into detail about this and why some people who have much trauma and unhealed wounds will actually cut off from their own core essence, to avoid emotional pain, and when they do this they become super needy for others wanting constant attention and love. Even if it’s negative attention, some people do this because they can not access their own source of divine core energy. With a vampiric relationship you may have a greater liklihood of having an attached entity whois connected to the primary energy vampire.

3) Can you illustrate a case from the book, that in your opinion is particularly interesting ?

Well, in the Love Bite book I’d say the case of John and Nadine had a more classic alien love bite orchestrated connection for what seemed to be the aliens purposes of selective breeding if they could and also to “prep” them for telepathic communication abilities for future use”. Janis and Alex is a good case and the Angelina and Steve case. The latter case exemplifies the milab, reptilian and love bite aspects which involve the more nefarious aspects of the entire drama. In the Dark Side of Cupid I categorized the types of cases into 4 main types categories from the milder cases to the severe ones with the hosted, predator-psychic vampire types of partners. In the last category of the severe cases it’s very obvious that it’s a manipulated relationship with something non-human interfering. Most are the third party entity type cases where some entity is sensed interfering in the relationship. I would say the Amy and Thomas is a good case to observe the energy vampirism issue with a definite entity overshadowing a partner. But all are pretty good cases that represent what happens in real life. The category I found quite revealing of evidence of New Age deceptions and corruption is the Mythic Dramas, Spirit Guides and Emotional Vampirism. In these cases some form of channelling was involved where the spirit guide entity(s) were the source of the relationship interference and energy vampirism. In such cases the individuals were not necessarily “alien abductees” with any kind of ET visitation history.

 4) From reading your book, it is clear that the aliens operate a real “micro management” of victim life, how can we imagine it ?

Oh yes, this was clearly evident early on when I started sharing more in depth the “secret lives” of abductees, contactees and milabs. Not all of them appeared “malevolent” in terms of involvement in someones life. There were many people who were genuinely spiritual, very sensitive and what some call “indigo” type people who seemed to be assisted by true benevolent spiritual guidance and also a negative disruptive element of milabs or negative ETs, or the positive versus negative ET wars. Such a case in the DSOC is the Becky and Cecil case. On the whole however, most of the micromanagement of these persons lives, when they are still being regularly “visited’, have many elements of their lives conditioned from a very early age. Beliefs, relationships, careers, etc. It’s like you can see a type of social engineering in a large portion of the abductee population, that I think now is a mixture of people truly wanting to get to the truth and those who are acting out their hidden conditioning and mind control programming from abductions. It is essential to be as self aware and honest with oneself as possible. Regression therapy is helpful in getting to the root of some traumatic experiences, or those you think are “ok” but upon closer examination may hold a hidden element which caused a deep subconscious belief or decision to be made which heavily affects ones course in life. I think if anyone has such a concern, their honest intentions to uncover their own truth will offset the programming. It’s all about awareness. Once we become aware of what affects us, we have power over whether to act or react to these triggers or choose another option. Responding differently.

 5)  Many human relationships end badly, with great suffering, how many of them due to the alien interference ?

I believe that the extradimensional interference factor is something going on behind the scenes more than we can imagine. And yet maybe this has always been so, and is part of the human condition for us to work through. Based on the Roper Poll of the early 1990s, it was estimated that about 2% of the population have had unusual experiences that fall into the alien abduction and near death experience categories. I think it’s more, personally. It’s about awareness of other dimensional realities and forms of life that we can interact with. I think the interference aspect has been noticed especially in the abduction, milab population but is also becoming more apparent with very highly aware spiritually focused people. Such a case is a recent blog post interview I did on 1/1/013 with an Indian pranic healer named Kailasnath.( See http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/twin-flames-liberation-and-enlightenment-from-a-vedic-perspective-interview-with-indian-pranic-healer-and-love-bite-experiencer-kailasnath/)

What I’m starting to see is very aware, sensitive and spiritually focused individuals realize, often in hindsight–that their relationships have been set up so that they are delayed or prevented from meeting their true love, soul mate or twin flame partner. Or simply the interference seems to be to prevent true love and harmonious love connections that enhance true sovereignty, liberation and truth. I have come across what appear to be positive set ups by aliens/ETs with people as well. Some were clearly serving the alien agenda deceptions and seemed to be rewarded with a love connection as long as they served that agenda. Then there were those who seemed to be set up or they were disrupted, but continued to maintain the powerful love connection despite the interference. In these cases, in order to maintain the sacred love connection, both partners had to be in full communication and enhanced awareness of the “interdimensional” reality, and then actively dealt with their own unique unhealed wounds which would complicate true intimacy and powerful love. In a non-interfered with relationship, these same issues of working out ones own personal obstacles is also important in order to have a more harmonious, compatible relationship. But when you have interference you know it. I mean it’s pretty obvious if it’s going on– the paranormal stuff, the high dramas, and artificially induced synchronicities. Basically you know it if you have it going on, and from then on you will be able to recognize it’s “energy signature”.

One of the interesting side effects of a love bite kind of relationship is that once you’ve had one, it can open up your sensitivities so that you are actually more aware after the fact. I think this could be due to how our energy system is amplified and opened up after such an experience. Plus the wisdom gained through such an experience.

 6) One of the most difficult things in dealing with the phenomenon is to discriminate between the spiritual, the psychological and the material aspects. What is your take on this?

Well, many in the UFO research and even alien abduction want to focus solely on material evidence. This is good because it’s nice to have a baseline of what types of physical evidence occur in alien abduction and contact cases, as well as milabs. These things tend to be physical landing marks, recovered craft, bodies, alien implants, flourescence markings, medical issues and evidence such as missing pregnancies or fetuses expelled that appear alien human hybrid. There was a case in Italy of a hybrid reptilian baby/fetus miscarried by an abductee. The medical issues abductees commonly report are gynecological anomalies, physical marks, scars, injection marks or signs of surgeries they do not recall ever having. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, missing time, etc. Then there are other things like knowledge of things they have not recalled ever learning such as advanced physics, alien languages or script, or other things they just “seem to know”, marital arts abilities, and things the aliens taught them in their “secret life” abduction reality.

Spiritually it’s not as easy to define, but the alien parasite issue that Dr. Corrado Malanga discovered in his research point to mental and spiritual parasites that affect the person “spiritually”. In one of my earlier supersoldier interviews with a man named “Zed”,(See http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/interview-with-a-milab-supersoldier-recovered-from-military-and-reptilian-drac-control/ )

he described the subtle difference between the military mind control programming effects and triggers, behaviors versus the reptilian and draco influences. In the reptilian and draco influences it was more “seamless”, spiritual and subtle, and almost felt as if it was “part of him naturally” but in fact was not, after he did intense healing, spirit releasement and meditation for a year living in nature alone, basically. But now with Malanga’s liberation techniques and so many others coming out in the alternative healing community, such as Holographic Kinetics, there are shamanic methods and hypnotheapeutic ways of discovering these influences and eliminating them without fear.7

7) In many of your articles you make reference to the Italian Corrado Malanga . What are the author’s Italian concepts most relevant to your work?

Malanga’s work is genius, brilliant. I was so happy to come across his work and his honesty in his research. I found so many of the same things and have encountered much disagreement and censorship of the elements of spiritual attachments, parasites, paranormal interference, milab operations, virtual reality operations and of course the most taboo is the love bite itself. Malanga was able to determine how these aliens really operate by doing in depth hypnosis and NLP which could access the deeper soul aspect of the person. The soul aspect he referred to as “anima”. This is the part of a person that can exist in the eternal present, be aware of all that has occurred and access information and memories about the aliens true intentions and nature. The troubling aspect was how the aliens involvement, parasitism actually facilitated a disconnect and lack of internal coherence with the mind, spirit, soul of the person within their body. Once the connection was re-established and the parasites or Active Alien Memories (AAM)s neutralized, then the abductee had much better awareness and connection with their soul/heart and could deflect the abductions through awareness and the power of their integrated consciousness with soul power fully engaged. I found his work with the milabs, alien parasite life cycle and cloning or “copying” to be revelatory. (See http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/global-picture-of-alien-interferences/ and http://flashmentalsimulation.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/the-cloning/)

So many milabs and abductees seemed to remember experiences or “milab operations” in another body much younger than their normal one, which revealed they were being transferred into cloned or copied bodies. Which is what some abductees like Ted Rice and other milabs have remembered but were never believed. (For example in the Masquerade of Angels book by Dr. Karla Turner and recapitulated in the Love Bite). Or, they were taken out of their human body and inserted into an alien body and then carried out jobs in their alien identity such as the Simon Parkes case in the UK.

8) One hot topic that you explore is the MILAB phenomenon. According to your research, what is the relationship between Aliens and the Military ?

Milabs are so fascinating, and seem to be a larger and larger part of the alien agenda in my view. But there also seem to be strictly alien contacts and abductions without military involvement. I think there are military/secret government organization factions which have made pacts with what appear to be certain alien species such as greys, reptilians, dracos, some Nordic types, mantis, etc., so that it seems the milab involvement of an abductee comes after the fact of having been an abductee, or it’s in their family line long before the military got involved in their case. It is postulated that the military have a running list of who most abductees are, and then they monitor them or even sheep dip them into their own secret operations under mind control because of their innate abilities. The more psychic and talented you are, the more the military secret government factions come after you like hound dogs. In the former interview I mentioned with the supersoldier named “Zed”, he realized that the military (US secret govt, although it’s really international) made pacts with reptilians who would train these soldiers for not only their own agenda, but then offer them to the military because of some pact having been made.  But the aliens in his case–reptilian/dracos–had the upper hand in terms of the programming and the alien programming superceded the military agenda unbenownst to the military. In Zed’s case he recalled some training scenarios on the dark side of the moon, among other locations and even on the Mars Base working within an organization he called “Earth Defense League” or EDL. In general, what I’ve seen are that alien abductees are used by the military because of abilities such as enhanced psychic abilities, eidetic and photographic memories, bilocation ability, martial arts, telepathic and clairvoyant abilities, etc. These attributes are I believe genetically enhanced or at least conditioned through different kinds of trauma and training in their “secret life”.  According to Zed, he believes that there are military factions who are quite concerned about the malevolent and deceitful behaviors and agenda of the aliens and want to counteract some of this “damage” by training supersoldiers with ablities to offset the more nefarious aspects of the alien agenda. It’s not a black and white issue, and yet in order to deal with the aliens, one must be as adept as a yogi, shaman warrior Jedi to deal with how these aliens can interfere and manipulate. Fighting them with guns and physical combat is not as effective as knowing how to deal with them on these mental, spiritual levels. The frontiers of consciousness and integration of consciousness.

In some of Barbara Bartholic’s work, early on she had noticed that the aliens have a superior way of creating virtual reality scenarios within an abductees experience. For example, they could superimpose a human, or military looking image within an experience to make you think you were dealing with a military person, when in fact it was a reptilian. And I can also say I have interviewed milabs who were in group abductions with others “in a tranced out state” where a cardboard cutout of a reptilian image was being imposed upon them to keep them in line in fear that there was a reptilian being present, when there was not. Or in another milab case, the abductee was lucid enough to see an alien doll figure that was fake within one of her experiences. Both things occur. In the Janice and Alex case in the Love Bite book, the woman described how the aliens could create this virtual reality room almost like a Star Trek Holodeck, to be the internal imagery of the abductees home, but it was actually a white plain, room that was used to be a template for other realities that could be superimposed within the abductees experience. So many of abductees experiences are dreamlike, and I think that the aliens can somehow tap into our memory banks to perceive imagery from our personal lives and use this when doing things while on a ship, underground or in another dimensional reality. One thing that I discovered was that when several abductees shared their dreams, they often found that they had mutually shared dreams with similar if not identical elements, indicating they indeed shared an abduction/virtual reality experience carried out by aliens. The more lucid someone was, the more they could tell what was going on. Derrel Sims had a case of a joint abduction years ago, and found that the most aware abductee could tell how the others were in a trance like state, “acting out what they thought they were seeing or doing”. Amazing really.

9) We know that the aliens are capable of projecting illusions, virtual reality in the minds of abductees. How do we distinguish between genuine and screen memories?

This is something that is a hot topic and is discussed alot amongst milabs. In one of my interviews with Maarit the Scandinavian milab woman, she described virtual reality technology and how she would perceive a flash of light before being immersed into VR. She described the difference between VR and a remote viewing perception. With VR you may not have physical evidence, obviously. Another milab supersoldier who has gone public with his VR experiences is Richard Rogers. He describes typical VR training scenarios.(See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1aVHe39Qac)  His book can be found on Amazon at : http://www.amazon.com/Warriors-Light-Richard-L-Rogers/dp/1463607857

I do think there is an advanced technology which enables the hijack of the persons consciousness into a forced “lucid dream” scenario. Some abduction attempts can be sensed before they can hack into our reality, such as a loud humming or earthquake rumbling sensation that precedes or follows coming back from an abduction. Then there are other types of OBE abductions where it is so subtle, it’s like one minute you are in bed, relaxed and ready to go asleep only to instantaneously find oneself in another reality, like an abduction “lucid dream”.

When I read Carlos Castenda’s, The Art of Dreaming, The Eagles Gift and The Fire Within, I saw descriptions of shamanic dreaming and entering into the “second attention” which was similar to a type of other reality abduction.  Or more accurately, a shifting into another reality by changing ones “assemblage point”. In some of these descriptions the Nagual sorcerer could change his apprentice’s assemblage point, after which the “reality/dimension” was changed and they both were in “another reality” instantaneously, body included. In other words, it was not just a mental experience or astral “abduction” but in fact a real shift into other realities. When I consider these practices in sorcery, I am beginning to think that the aliens or even humans in secret projects–are doing something like this, except with the aid of advanced technology. In these cases, it would actually  be a true physical abduction but it is not always remembered clearly. The Nagual sorcerer who is adept at changing his own assemblage point repeatedly can recall the entire experience however. It would behoove us to enhance our own awareness and lucidity in order to understand abductions and heightened degrees of perception. Shamanic and lucid dreaming is a good place to start.

 10) What are the purposes of the Aliens ?

The aliens agenda  is much like what Dr. Corrado Malanga hypothesizes. To live through us, souled humans in order to live indefinitely through parasiting our “bodies/containers”. These types of aliens would be the ones Malanga describes as corporeal and incorporeal entities who lack a soul component to their being. They may have a mind component or a mind and spirit or maybe just a spirit component, but need to link into our soul essence energy field in our bodies to live through us as parasites. Understood in this way we could see that these forms of entities who lack a soul component are temporal beings. I also believe the aliens are aiming to manipulate our genetics which would enhance the parasitism vulnerability while maintaining enough human DNA to capture the soul essence, yet keep it imprisoned within a fully alien parasitized consciousness. This is what I believe transhumanism is really all about.

There may be other races out there who are soulled and living for the purpose of soul-spiritual evolution just like we do. Some good, bad and all the shades inbetween. But in my view, the true character of a being can be assessed if you can read energy and perceive whether they are parasites or energy vampires. In the former interview with Kailasnath the pranic healer, he was able to discern between the divine soulled energy and what he calls “dark depleting energy” of a truly negative being.

 11) Do you see an evolution in the relationship between them and us or it is a stable situation ?
This is a good question. I see that parasitism is not beneficial for us, and serving them only. Perhaps the alien presence helps us learn about ourselves and can provide the fertilizer for us to evolve spiritually. But to do this we must find ways to defend ourselves against their predation. They are clearly not good for us if they are parasitic predators seeking to consume our soul essence! I do not think it is a stable situation. I see them being able to manipulate others too much to help carry out their agenda. It’s much like what the ancient Gnostics warned us about in the Nag Hammadi Library. They–the archons– infect our minds and cause us to err in our beliefs. Then we carry out activities through these false beliefs. But it’s also true they can parasite and possess our minds and then these people become hosts to carry out their anti human anti life/anti Earth agenda. Transhumanism and a disconnect from our planetary animal mother, Sophia– our source of life and wisdom connection. It seems like a program to keep us looking to outside ET gods rather than staying empathically connected to the Earth and with each other.12) In my book, “Apocalisse Aliena”,  I analyze the apocalyptic messages issued by these entities. The phenomenon was also handled by C. Malanga. What can you tell us about those future events?

I think the future events are partially orchestrated by these EMEs as you call them, so that we believe a narrative which will give it power to actually happen, ie., an apocalypse. So I believe that these entities want us to use our belief and imagination to create a reality they want to happen, which is quite destructive and anti life.

And then there are other beings who may not be ETs/aliens who are other dimensional beings, who may very well know what future trends lie, and can warn sensitives about these trends that are forecasted. These forecasts are perhaps like what we can expect based on what epoch we are in such as the end of the Kali Yuga. It seems we are at the tail end of an epoch or era, where some beings are ready to move on to another kind of experience, rather than be recycled into the same old system we seem to have been stuck in for a very long time. This is a topic that others are considering, such as the akashic reader “Galactic Historian known as Andrew Bartiz. (See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioGxyeyuHco)

I think we as humans need to reclaim our own power and sovereignty back. The conditions on this planet are forcing us to either become our true potential or lose the opportunity. It’s like we are being forced to wake up and be our highest potential or be exterminated as a race through the alien transhumanism agenda.

*Comments by Corvo regarding Dr. Karla Turners comments on end times prophecies by aliens etc.,“I have a comment  about the “End times” story. I’ll cite karla Turner that we deeply respect, in my book I have an extra chapter dedicated to her.From “Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction Agenda” by Karla Turner)“And Pat has been shown scenes of the return of Jesus, accompanied by space ships and aliens, preceding the “bad time on earth” which will destroy many of those who are not rescued.”

“Amy and Polly have been told of a coming “

“Angie’s abductors said that the “filth and evil” in this world will be cleansed as we are subtly changed.”

So Karla asked her higher self for an explanation, this is what she got in a series of dreams:

Esau, the older and hairier brother, they explained, represents the original human species on this planet. Jacob represents the altered product of alien genetic manipulations of that older species. The aliens produced this new variant and then used it to replace the original form. In our current situation, the aliens are once again doing genetic alterations of our species and are once again trying to produce a variant which will be more useful for their purposes and which will supplant us. And again it will be attempted through deception, as Jacob deceived Isaac. This deception, I was told, is being carried out by the aliens through exploitation and manipulation of global events, including weather phenomenon, to make us believe that the planet is in imminent danger of cataclysm and destruction. This is why they impress the idea of coming destruction upon so many abductees, telling then they will have tasks to perform at that time. They want us, as a race, to be so  afraid of this upcoming destruction that when they show themselves openly and offer to save us in some way, we will be willing to take their help,even if it means giving up our birthright, so to speak, which is preeminence on this planet. Like Esau in his hunger, we will say, “What good does it do us to keep our birthright if we’re all going to be destroyed along with the planet? What have we got to lose if we accept alien help, even though that means accepting alien control? Better to survive under subjugation than not at all.”

bold (Corvo)

I think Karla made a a very good summary of the situation.

I know lot of people that is so sick of the current situation that will welcome the good ET/Jesus if/when they come to save us….

I’m not one of those, but many have been involved their whole life in preparation for this Event, with them first and the military later….”

 

A Collection of Milab, Reptilian and Alien Abduction Related Articles from James Bartley and Eve Lorgen

In light of the radio show series I have been doing with Shattering the Matrix Blogtalk Radio with Ari Kopel and Serena this month, I wanted to put together a list of some of the best Milab Articles and Interviews done in the past decade and more by myself and also James Bartley. James Bartley will be joining me and Ari and Serena in a Part 2 of the Milab series radio shows.

I realized that because my web site is now in a Blog format, many of the “oldies but goodies” milab articles and interviews cannot be found unless one does a search on the exact title so they are not always “visible” to newcomers to my web site.

I have been researching and interviewing milabs and alien abductees and other survivors of anomalous trauma since 1996. James Bartley and myself met in San Diego back in 1994-5 while attending San Diego UFO Society and Mufon lectures. We started an abductee support and discussion group out of my home in Fallbrook, CA in the late 90’s shortly after the death of Dr. Karla Turner. Both James and I have known and corresponded with the late Barbara Bartholic and were inspired by the work of Dr. Karla Turner. We learned much from studying the less known aspects of the alien abduction syndrome and milabs, and much of what we learned back then was scoffed at and disregarded within the UFO research community. Much of this still is, but now I think things have changed a bit and more people are finally waking up to the reality of the alien , military and mind control black operation connection to this rabbit hole of a Pandora’s Box. The occult aspects are also prevalent especially when we delve into the reptilian and demonic aspects that unravel in many milabs experiences.

Some articles are by a few other authors or book reviews. I may not share 100% views of all authors nor them with me, but the material is still worth sharing.

Interviews and articles related to Milabs in preparation for Part 2 of Eve Lorgen’s Milab topic with Ari Kopel and Serena on Shattering the Matrix Blogtalk radio show scheduled  Saturday Aug. 24, 2013 9 pm EST. See Details on time and links on the Radio Page.

A Classic: Milabs_ A Pandora’s Box: Interview with Lilu:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/milabs-a-pandoras-box/

Michael Relfe of the Mars Defense Project:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/interview-with-michael-and-stephanie-relfe-of-the-mars-records/

Secret Project Superwarrior Gone Rogue: Interview with Jaredhttp://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/rogue-supersoldier/

Interview with a Milab Supersoldier Recoverd from Reptilian and military Mind Control: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/interview-with-a-milab-supersoldier-recovered-from-military-and-reptilian-drac-control/

Interview with White Wolf Von Atzingen:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/white-wolf-von-atzingen-interview/

Interview with Maarit A Scandinavian Milab:http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/interview-with-maarit-a-scandinavian-milab/

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/horus-ra/

 

Aliens as Transdimensional Parasites: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/before-and-after-simbad/

Another Relevant Classic by James Bartley and Eve Lorgen:

Unmasking the Disruptors:http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/unmasking-the-disruptors/

Reptilian Military, Training and Command Systems in Milab experiencehttp://evelorgen.com/wp/category/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/

Forced Reptilian Baptism Ritual: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/reptilian-abductee-reports-a-forced

James Bartley’s interviews and articles:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/alien-abductions-in-the-21st-century/

Articles From James Bartley’s Website:

 

 http://www.whale.to/b/bartley_h.html

The Legacy of Barbara Bartholic: http://www.whale.to/c/legacy.html
[2011 Nov] What Would a Reptilian Controlled Planet Look Like? By James Bartley

[2009] A Primer on Military Abductions By James Bartley

My Location Displacement Experience by James Bartley

[2007] A Female Abductee’s Revelations Of Hybrid Infiltration by James Bartley

[2007] Interview with a Male Abductee about Reptilians and Hybrids by James Bartley

UNDERSTANDING THE REPTILIAN MIND By James Bartley

ASTRAL DREAMSCAPE MANIPULATION by James Bartley

ON THE MARCH by James Bartley

Rebuttal to a Reptile in Human Clothing by James Bartley

Grand Strategy Of The Reptilians by James Bartley

Angelia Cardwell Milab: http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/an-interview-with-a-female-milab-angelia-cardwell-by-james-bartley/

Psychopaths and the Reptilian Agenda:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/psychopaths-and-the-reptilian-agenda/

A Classic and Humorous Article by James Bartley:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/alien-abductions-in-the-21st-century/