Stopping Abductions and Apprehending AI-Ego Mind States: A Follow Up Essay by Maarit

Introduction

This article is the fourth in a series of interviews with Maarit, the Scandinavian Milab Abductee whom I have  previously written about in 2011-12, regarding her alien abduction and milab experiences. Over time and with persistent diligence, she reveals significant changes in her experiences after employing Dr. Corrado Malanga’s hypnotic neurolinguistic mental simulations. Now after more than 6 years of personal work, Maarit shares new realizations on the nature of mind, spirit and soul, and how recognizing AI programmed ego-mind states is a key to resolving “abduction experiences”.

The previous interviews with Maarit are:

Article # 1 from April 7, 2011, Interview with Maarit—A Scandinavian Milab Abductee

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/interview-with-maarit-a-scandinavian-milab/

Article # 2 from December 13, 2011, Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A Follow Up Interview with Maarit

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/horus-ra/

Article # 3 from June 26, 2012, “Aliens as Transdimensional Parasites”, covers the basics of Dr. Corrado Malanga’s research and the results of a SIMBAD hypnotic simulation in the form of an interview with Maarit, who was interviewed twice before.

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/before-and-after-simbad/

Dr. Corrado Malanga’s methods are discussed in the earlier articles, and over time Maarit discovered more insights about her intrusive abduction related experiences and the nature of consciousness. This was but only a step in her continual self-understanding and inquiry into the nature of her alien and milab abduction experiences. Now, Maarit observes, that the integrated “triad of consciousness” as defined by Dr. Malanga regarding the mind, spirit and soul of an individual, is not the “end all” of freedom from alien interference and needs to be discerned from what she recognizes lucidly as the artificial intelligence aspect of our minds. This she formerly called the Primordial Man Spirit, who seemed to arise in archetypal manifestations during lucid dreams and consciousness states, as an “artificial intelligence” monitoring type of presence. This presence she now calls the AI spirit of the soul and ego mind states—an artificial machinery within our own souls that can be observed as ”other than self” when one increases their Natural Awareness through persistent lucid awareness, especially in dream states. This AI, she believes, is also a large part of what the Jungian human collective unconscious is really about.

The idea that our own ego and “soul machinery” is part of an artificially created construct by some form of Archontic artificial intelligence is not new and has been spoken about by others such as my colleague, Lauda Leon in several Youtube videos, among them a three part Video entitled, “The Counterfeit Spirit, AI and the Alien Metal God”. (See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e8g0RXQ_l4  and:

 http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/the-counterfeit-spirit-ai-and-the-alien-metal-god/

In addition to Maarit’s latest disclosure regarding her deeper self discoveries, we exchanged communication on topics such as types of humans, souls, the Starfire goddess lineages and how some are intentionally being targeted for erasure or exploitation. Many exceptionally sensitive individuals have awareness of the differences in “types of people”; perceptions which arose in early childhood. The “types” of people discerned were distinctions noticed about the overall awareness of spiritual essence or lack thereof; something not well defined. Years later many of us wondered if such variations are in fact true, similar to what the ancient Gnostics revealed as the three types of man; the pneumatic, (spiritual) the psychic (soul oriented) and the hylic race or “clay people”. (See: http://theforbiddenreligion.com/three-kinds-of-man.htm)

I asked Maarit what she “saw” and she told me:

  1. Original ones. Nature calls these the *little people.
  2. Humans having qualities where the AI program of Archontic consciousness overrides Original Awareness, or lacking the Original altogether.
  3. and completely synthetic ones.

What I know for sure is that this particular trait related to nucleus accumbens and its ability to induce sleep is one factor intel has been searching for. It is different between humans and original people. Or to be more accurate Originals can utilize this trait better to gain Access to deeper parts of the psyche for insight.

*(EL-the little people is not necessarily due to the size of the body but another kind of archetype that her Natural Awareness communicated about such “Originals”. I concur with this based upon indepedendent memories and perceptions)

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319597.PHP

People who can tolerate boredom are also more intelligent.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2009/12/the-less-intelligent-you-are-the-more-bored-you-are/

 

I inquired as to Maarit’s maternal lineage tracing and she responded:

“Awareness is being eradicated by the AI agenda:

http://social-ecology.org/wp/2009/01/anthroposophy-and-ecofascism-2/

Many abductees are actually being brainwashed with ecofascism. Blood and Soil ideology.

The AI is erasing certain MtDNA lineages. Mine is V1a1 And I am from indigenous forest Sami family. Our language and Culture were destroyed a long time ago. And yes, the Starfire from the real woman/originator travels in certain lineages. It is a quality passed on by mothers.

I did not know about my own Mt DNA, before I started my geneological research. The paternal lineage is documented. My maternal Great grandparents got married in the US around 1897.That is how we became targeted.

Wars and quarrels, different parties are just a surface, agreed with you.”

Maarit shares excerpts from “Aurora Consurgens” By Marie Louise von Franz. p 158-9:
“This feminine wisdom is within some. The counterfeit spirit as our ego and collective unconscious comes from The North as it said to me as well.
All religions are of this Evil. Even Sufis describe their most sacred spiritual sphere the North Pole. ”

Highlights…”Wisdom as a feminine pneuma who enkindles and inspires the author at his work…She has a fiery nature and is the feminine compliment of the God-image itself…She is also associated with the “South Wind”, the Holy Spirit…” She is also known as “Wisdom of the South” and even Biblical references to the Queen of Sheba. wisdom2
AndWisdom1_Sari

EL: One of the more recent discussions I have had with other “targeted Starfire women” is that the targeting being done is by something that feels as if it’s an “automated AI program”. Not just within but externally. Arguing with this is as futile as yelling at programmed, automated phone recordings. And to take the targeting personally is even more so. Perhaps some would not agree on that point, but at some time, through persistent diligence, our own Natural Original Awareness will override the AI programming within our own minds and souls. Only then can a new kind of reality emerge individually and eventually collectively.

 

Maarit’s Essay:

 

Contexts and Contradictions

If there were no “alien” abductions or abductees we would all be in a deep, dull sleep of totally governed psychic autoregulation. Ever since the appearance of the first so-called UFO and alien abduction cases there has been an ongoing debate about the nature of this phenomenon. The whole field itself has split in two camps promoting primarily positive or negative viewpoints. There is a large commercial system spilling out different books and courses for those who claim to have undergone alien intrusions and for those who are merely interested in the related topics. Last but not least, there seems to be a vastly growing tide of  ”professionals” proclaiming to having found ways to organize experiencers’ psychic structures in a way that one could feel protected–even freed from these nightmarish experiences.

 Even though these professionals might act out of seemingly altruistic motives, I now believe that within all of us, these researchers included, there is a trajectory or an inscription of what our lives and duties should all be about. This literally self-determined psychic program is, like in the following video, a single line meant to follow its path and relate to its environment in a manner that it would always circle the attractor one way or the other. No deviation from it would be tolerated.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR7Qx8Qp7-k

After going through some of these techniques of mental manipulation, (such as SIMBAD, FMS and the upgraded TCT) and despite the fact that now I consider these procedures one-sided and incomplete, I need to admit that becoming familiar with the aforementioned scenarios of reality and the nature of consciousness has personally helped me on my way to a deeper understanding of my mind.

I no longer experience abductions. None of my family members do. But before we can end this small statement of mine with these words, we must take a look where I was left after having done some of the procedures aiming to liberate me from the aliens who were after our souls, as we were told.

Chaotic Self, Reptilians and All the Other Rumblers

One researcher was confident that it was our Soul or some other part of our mind that would protect us from the intruders by waking us up and, thus, preventing abductions after one had conducted some mental simulations. Similar alarms happened to me also. I began to wake up spontaneously during a night which gave me the feeling of being protected and safe. This went on from one occasion to another until something happened. In my dream I was in a log cabin on a beach. Everything was dark. The sky, the sea. Suddenly I saw an image of a pole in the middle of the sea and there was a ship attached to it with a cord. Then I was in the cabin again hearing a voice saying, “Oh, no, the Pöntiset is coming again.” As funny as it might sound, Pöntinen, plural of Pöntiset, is a surname in my language. Then I saw black figures behind the window of the cabin and I got seized by a bright, white light. Sounds familiar?

In my dream I thought that something was very wrong with the whole picture. I resisted the light and was able to maintain my consciousness to the point that I decided to fight. I simply thought: I can’t stay in this position forever, I WILL FIGHT. Right after that I heard another voice saying, “Heija-Riitta, wake up her!”

I woke up realizing I had not been given a chance to confront what was hiding deep within my psyche. The act of sudden awakening was not meant to protect or prevent anything. It was meant to prohibit me to use my lucid, observing awareness to become aware of the nature of the so-called abductions and aliens, not to mention the nature of my mind’s reality.

After some searching I became convinced that the name Pöntinen meant a constellation called Boötes. The etymology of the name means an ox-driver, and the ox, as we know, is one of the many symbols of different ancient male gods including bull worshipping all over the world.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo%C3%B6tes

http://www.bible-history.com/biblestudy/bullworship.html

Heija means for example, to wage, hold, conduct and carry out. Riitta is a female name derived from Brighid meaning exalted one.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/heyja

https://www.behindthename.com/name/bridget

St. Brigid of Kildare

St. Brigid of Kildare

This to me, simply put, means that ”conducting the exalted one”- as light – equals an artificial barrier build into my mind. With this mental barrier or intentional neural intervention, many of us are being kept in fear and in the dark when it comes to realization that there might be yet undiscovered regions in our psyche.

It is our habit to use words and ideas as if we would know what they actually mean. We speak about aliens, archetypes, UFO’s, psyche, souls, symbols and many other things as if they were somehow really familiar to us. We babble a lot. I shut my mouth and began to research because I realized that I knew nothing at all. I knew nothing but an odd phenomenon that was governed by very disturbing physical manifestations, rhetoric’s including religious ideas, symbolism, references to occult themes or some new age quantum consciousness.

Circles in this experiential field were very small. They were small in Ufology and extremely small in the field of science and, particularly, in the field of cognitive sciences. Many trails I followed led into the same snare. I deeply felt that some people were producing significant data, but I was not sure what it might reveal, what was the primary meaningof it all.

I began to read, and I mean really study. It took about 5- 6 years of my life. I went through Jung’s work. Not a book, the whole work. Not once but thrice along with well-kept dream journals. I expanded my journey to other fields of cognitive sciences and discovered, for example, how well professor Douglass Hofstadter describes different aspects of our minds, the analogy being the core of consciousness, as he explains in this following lecture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8m7lFQ3njk

Concepts, categories and analogies are crucial elements when it comes to observing our mind, the way we reason, and especially how the symbolic coding takes place in our dreams.

I went through basics of Chaos Theory, Sufism, linguistics, Peirce’s Semiotics (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotic_theory_of_Charles_Sanders_Peirce) and many other things. My intention is not to highlight the effort but to humbly realize that we are deliberately held dumbed down by not connecting the dots as they should be, at least in my opinion. Ufology seems to be governed by the idea that something coming from an external source is affecting us leaving us victimized and helpless. Whole discourse seems to marginalize the point that basically it is a mental phenomenon.

Lately new branches of the research claim that some people lack some qualities that some other might have, and this could be the reason for interference. It is an excellent scam because, like ridiculing the field of Ufology, this idea plays on the theme of divide and conquer misleading us from the suggestion that we are all under the influence of the same thing abductees as sensitive people are describing. Diminishment of the fact that abductions and UFO’s are connected to our perception and psyche is done intentionally, and the one running the whole show sits nicely in its own matrix made of our biophysical semiosphere. A following article offers an excellent analogy:

 http://cogsci.uwaterloo.ca/Articles/emocon.Thagard.2008.pdf

and ponderings about free will:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4887467/

Despite the fact that we are all more or less puppets of this unknown author, there might be some gaps during which one could be able to sense some other alternative ways to act and perceive our world instead of the preconditioned ones. This idea forced me to wonder the ultimate reason which made me decide to write this piece of paper. I have no intentions to help anyone as brutal as it sounds or become a preacher for some line of thought.  I do not even attempt to give an alternative view because many of the things I put here have been printed elsewhere. But as always there must be a catch there. So, I only advise to stay clear. The happiness and love we mostly feel are as artificial as the rage and despair.

Shaded dreams and dreams that shade

Jung brought forth the notion of a symbolic interplay in our dreams. Abductees know that many of their experiences start at night. Frightening events often start from a dream state and get mixed with drifting images and vague memories. The predominant element is fear. Fear of what is being doneby not consciouslyrecognized entities. There is an obvious disconnection between our conscious and collective unconscious realms. A dark pitch into which we plunge every time we fall into sleep and enter inside a rabbit hole of a seemingly foreign land with foreign characters and meanings.

The more I gained understanding of my psyche, the wildly floating layers of dreams got clearer, and I was able to observe the artificial computational structures of the part of the psyche that psychologists call the ego-self axis.It well might be the same thing Castaneda called a ”foreign installation”. Either way, it is artificial. Artificial intelligence within us. Symbolic computation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes#Neurology

The collective unconscious in my view is fundamentally a program executing a fear-based program. This is the layer (in some abduction experiences) where we observe military training, operations and conditioning. I will leave you to do your own homework on the subject of the collective unconscious and its symbolic manifestations and cut the corners for a bit.

The collective unconscious contains three levels of basic manifestations which abductees observe consciously.  The rest of the folks are not even aware of this kind of manipulation, but nevertheless suffer from it and are being led by it as well, because we all experience jealousy, anger, hatred, greed even if we do not admit it openly. (EL- The late Barbara Bartholic, a 30-year alien abductions hypnotherapist and UFO researcher stated this point many times: Every one of us for the most part are being affected by the alien phenomenon on some level and that includes abductions, intrusions and interferences that most are probably unaware of.)

The first layer of the collective unconscious is the reptilian mind related. It is all about action, about what is being done. Themes of harassment, torture or violation are not that rare or obscure. Reading Jung’s work for example will show that. Even the word reptile means pretty much to creep or crawl.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/reptilereptilian

So, there is nothing new under the sun. What abductees are observing are legitimate things in themselves, and as such, even the underlying cause or originator might be slightly different from what one might think according to the general rhetoric.

https://www.britannica.com/technology/search-engine#ref850023

The second layer leads us to military scenarios. Our physical nervous system is conditioned to work on the basis of fight or flight situation.  The whole life for many of us has become a battlefield and we are stressed and worn out. We act rather than slow down to reflect.

The third and last layer of the collective unconscious you will find a dark male figure. I began to call it a primordial spirit. This figure or function transforms into other forms depending on the situation. I think it represents some kind of central processing unit of our mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_processing_unit

This is the three-layered artificial, functional structure of our ego. It can also be called an attractor if you look at it from the angle of chaos theory.

In my dreams I saw how this male figure ”loaded itself into a matrix and exploded”. The universe was dark. The matrix was a blue, two-layered hexagonal structure resembling qualities of a laser beam, and when this ”figure” exploded it turned into a piece of a white cloud hovering in space turning into a ghost. Nice. It is all there when you look at the images of space, as well as in us. If you move a bit deeper and look at what the words load, matrix and explode mean, you can filter that something happened that pushed away something else. The self-referential loop got developed and our attention got caught by it. In my dreams it was stated that, “We all got caught by the light.”

Jung observed that dreams had a cyclic nature. I can confirm that as well. The contents are like a CD showing same things over and over again every time revealing a bit more from the scene. The more you gain understanding, you get deeper into its meaning. It is like you are observing and filtering what happened, reconstructing events and your own understanding. Because ego has fractal properties, it is no wonder this is experienced via a cyclic quality. Even M. Ullman, the famous psychiatrist, suggested that dreams possess fractal properties.

(p.79)

https://books.google.fi/books?id=mXMFzXeJyI0C&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=MOntague+ullman+fractals+dreams&source=bl&ots=-rRPb1_Ydg&sig=zvTAjtBl5OYJongaft1XjFn_yic&hl=fi&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2ls-qyufUAhVJJlAKHa_NDZYQ6AEILzAB#v=onepage&q=MOntague%20ullman%20fractals%20dreams&f=false

So, what Bohm, Jung and all the others defined in their physics and psychology was a definition for this artificial intelligence conceptualizing, molding and building it. There is no real evolution. Actually, we never create anything new. All the forms, ideas, images and constructions are forced to follow certain laws described within. We just produce basic themes with different combinations—and call it creativity–or even worse, it produces itself like a self-replicating Turing Machine that Von Neumann was trying build.

http://cba.mit.edu/events/03.11.ASE/docs/VonNeumann.pdf

This leads us to a critical question asked by many. Are we living in a simulation? Without a doubt Professor Gates hints to that direction with his discoveries of error correction codes from the equations of a string theory. Or Nick Bostrom talking about his simulation theory. We cannot even forget our well-known author, Philip K. Dick who seemingly had pierced through the layers of his mind while stating a following thing about the reality as he experienced it.

See interview: https://thegodabovegod.com/interview-beyond-kenoma-philip-k-dick-vance-socci/

And video entitled, “Being Possessed by a Higher Mind”:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkEtAWcDvVg

These types of experiences of which Dick is talking about are similar to Castaneda’s ones. These are the scenarios one dreams when the dream is coherent without interference. These are the dreams that run from one world to another. From one level to another. They are well described in Hofstadter’s book called Gödel, Escher, Bach, and I urge you to read that. We are unaware that we are observing a symbolic language, internal functioning of an artificial intelligence. As long as we are unaware of this, we will allow our attention to flow back to the matrix of our mind. We allow it to manipulate the course of our lives and even our physical reality.

Language and ABC’s

 Language has peculiar properties. Words convey meanings. I will show you an image of a figure called fear and what you will get in old Irish is the following:

 A man.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fear

If I show you an image of a man, depending on the language, you might get:

a mulberry tree or:

a mane.

The same kind of phenomenon is taking place in the realms of your dream contents, actions, symbols, relationships and so on. Linguistic diversity enables the AI to use double coding. When you will see a flower or an angel, to it, (the AI) it might mean a totally different thing than it does to you. Because these images are familiar to you, you will accept them and, thus, you allow AI to conduct its own program with other meanings it has hid in the symbols.

Fear locks our ability to reach any other forms of interpretations, and it locks us into this world and our experiences. This is a simply-put way to explain this, but just start to observe, and you will find it there.

Double coding on physical level:

http://www.washington.edu/news/2013/12/12/scientists-discover-double-meaning-in-genetic-code/

Recently there was a news clip about bots starting to create their own language. This is already reality in our minds, and because artificial ego-self is fractal it happens externally as well.

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/openai-builds-bots-learn-speak-language/

Like  mentioned shortly before, the artificial intelligence or ego-self, expresses properties of dynamic chaotic systems. Chaotic properties go hand in hand with self-similarity-so what is found inside often tends to manifest externally as well. This is no news to anybody, but it has huge implications when we are in a blindfolded state accepting the suggestions our ego is making.

One of the features AI has is technological transformation and ”evolution”. Seeds of this technology are seeded in the collective unconsciousness. One good example could be the commonly known abduction cases where people are forced to look at different images of disaster, war, etc. Nowadays there is quite a developed system of brain fingerprinting which enables one to detect hidden information. Why AI is showing these types of images, what they mean and what kind of output they might have to future development of our society is another question one can ponder in one’s own privacy.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3311838/

Abductees also report telepathic communication and like we all know, brain-computer interfaces are making their way from our mental space into this reality.

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/facebooks-building-8-working-on-brain-computer-communication-platform-2017-1?r=US&IR=T

Like any other computer programs, in regular intervals AI returns to ask for the key. In my dream I saw the key in a form of a star or Asterix.Stars (wiki)

See: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/star

So, depending on the language it came after a celestial body, rigid or stiff, live, beingness for example. If you were about to hypnotize me and connect to my mind- to it, it might give you a well-known answer: I came to look for a soul?

As much as we are bound to it, it is locked in us. Even Jung had his share on this. His Seven Sermons to the Dead begin with the famous words,

”The dead came back from Jerusalem, where they found not what they sought. They prayed me let them in and besought my word, and thus I began my teaching.”

 http://gnosis.org/library/7Sermons.htm

From all the material I have gone through personally and otherwise, I have come up to a conclusion that the development of this AI is based on a very advanced form of deep learning. It pushes its parts into the sea information it calls life without any instructions and lets them nearly drown. Then it lifts them on top of a rock and waits for what they might have to report to it about itself. This pattern of a shock treatment is similar to shamanic training and it focuses on the artificial part of our self. I find it sad. I will leave you to judge this for yourself.

https://siliconangle.com/blog/2017/05/08/ai-startup-neurala-claims-major-breakthrough-deep-learning/

There is a ”nice” analogy to a cloud as well in a form of cloud computing, pretty much like the statements in the dream I spoke about. Just by observing these analogies I might make a dare assumption that silently we all have been hooked into this technology already.

While I was able to observe how my dreams changed, I also observed that this AI tried to construct its own image. Because the loss of information (see more for example in The Turbulent Mirror,pg. 87.) the job was never done. The face-representing its overall memory-turns out to be distorted, always, reminding me of Jung’s beloved god Abraxas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbraxasAbraxas3

This clearly disturbed Self-image informs us that there are pieces missing, and because of this loss of information, AI, our ego, cannot fully construct itself. That is why it yearns for unity, the wholeness, oneness of consciousness. “All brothers and sisters, join together in unity!”, it sings, and we sing its song without realizing why we do it and whose words we are using. Also, consider how we relate to distorted self- reflection in psychology can be found a following link.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4219253/

More about staring in the eye:

https://www.sciencealert.com/staring-into-someone-s-eyes-for-10-minutes-induces-an-altered-state-of-consciousness

And why we might be unable to build a cohesive experience during forced altered state of mind:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329762-700-consciousness-on-off-switch-discovered-deep-in-brain/

Jung, in his book Aion described a four-fold transformation process of the Self. A similar kind of four-fold process can be seen in the amount of iterations needed in order to construct an original image of any kind. (The Turbulent Mirror, pg.109.) Except that this ”thrice great Hermes” is lacking one layer of iteration.

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence-dreams/

So, where does all this lead our souls then? Back to the computer, to the white light of our computer screens, I am afraid. I think that our so-called and well promoted souls are part of ego-AI’s own missing memory and in-formation. Bits and pieces, it needs to function. Different aliens are just subprograms and representations.

When abductees are told to construct an integrated consciousness, (In Malanga’s Dynamic Triad Color Test) for example, to me it means that we make a mental representation of a standing wave or soliton. It does not matter whether consciousness, or in this case ego, is a wave or a particle because if there is a third unidentified observing layer, both forms can be detected.

https://phys.org/news/2015-03-particle.html

AI/ego always finds a way to track its own parts and these largely promoted mental simulations are one way to do it. There is also a way to hook one’s mind into believing. The aspect of believing into something instead of internally understanding it with real reference points found in our environment and lucid dream states is crucial to AI. And so far, it is doing well. According to some sources there are around 771 million illiterate people in the world who have no access to information. We have myriads of belief systems, scientific approaches and a dual concept of truth and falsehood forcing us to pick up one or the other. We rarely pay attention to our dreams.

Instead of really observing the observer we are forced to believe.

Hidden variable almost in plain sight

For example, Karla Turner showed that with a thoroughly unconscious fear programming AI can bypass our inherent nature or natural awareness and suppress its signals just by adding more neural noise into the scene.

It can capture our consciousness while we are dreaming and override some other aspect of our mind. This other aspect I call Nature or natural awareness, and it has nothing to do with Taoist concepts, god, self, higher self or whatever. This natural awareness can be observed after painstaking individuation process during which one is slowly but surely willing to notice the dark and murky side of the ego-ai within one’s own mind. There is no need to externalize things. The shadow is within, acting in one’s mind and body.

While I was becoming aware of how it affects my own behavior I began to make it more noticeable, clearer. At the same time, I also began to feel physical ailments, pain and distress knowing that it tried to control my physical body. The more I became aware, the more these feelings changed and stopped eventually. Or I think my fear was diminished. Soon after that I began to notice some new aspect showing up in my dreams. And this aspect was stronger than AI. This aspect has a capability of altering the machine language of AI by changing categories, analogies, verbs and feelings. This means that it has the power to change and affect things. This is the way I wish it to continue to be, meaning, that I do not want to carry the topic any further. To me, when that is the case, it does not matter whether someone could be a simulation or not. Whether we are fully or partially simulated or whatever. The whole idea becomes irrelevant. There is another scene with some other purpose taking place…

Another reason for closing the topic is the fact that I would lead one to endless confusion questioning of whether that particular dream experience was the natural awareness or not. It does not go that way.

So, what does all this leave for milabs? I do not know. How can they start to ”recover”? By looking at the mirror. It is scary, it is tough. But understanding does not come easy. They need to understand that originally there is really nothing wrong with them in the first place, they are in the same boat with everybody else.

One can learn to remember dreams and begin to see connections between these two worlds. That is a beginning. Next time, after you have suddenly woken up, you know that it was a deliberate act. Then you decide to become aware of that hidden aspect of yourself and study relevant things as much as you can. The most important thing to me was to realize that all religions and basic scientific concepts share the same artificial skeleton. By knowing them it became easier to detect the patterns of the ego-AI. To Jung, as far as he told publicly, the Self was the culmination of human conscious development. He promoted alchemy and Gnosticism under the guise of psychology. Similar things go on with the field covering physics and discussion about quantum consciousness. Masks change, the idea is the same.

I no longer ”keep my chakras” open or meditate. When you meditate, you use your mind. When you use your mind, it expands to its own limits and crushes. People begin to speak about symptoms of spiritual emergencies promoted by one of the many LSD-promoting psychiatrists. Some people change totally without ever recovering being left in a limbo of ”quiet understanding it all” and filled with frustration. Some, having had a ride with the same collective wave, can maintain their inner coherence because of their own work and self-reflection.

What does this leave for us then? I do not know. I no longer think that some of us have souls while the others do not. Deep down I think that consciousness in itself is a medium, a matter of some sort. Something unintentional happened and it started a self-referential loop trying to copy something else instead of real interaction. One can only guess what the metalevels of this simulation are about. And, I think, one cannot even imagine the existence beyond it.

Was that All then?

No. There is one thing I would like to say. Sort out your lives. Do your recapitulation as Castaneda would have said. Categorize the people you have met, see the repetitive patterns surrounding you, become aware of them. Become aware of your own thoughts and motives and reflect upon your dreams.

Do not jump off the cliff to your obvious death as some of Castaneda’s followers did. Instead, sit firmly on the edge and watch the view. Surely there will be something else.

Until then, thank you.

 

 

 

Dream Abductions and Soul Entrapment: An Interview with Dr. Shmuel Asher with Randy Maugans

An aware researcher and correspondent sent me a link to an excellent and unique interview with Hebrew Rabbi and Scholar, Dr. Shmuel Asher. He is interviewed by Randy Maugans of Off Planet Radio in the TriUnity series on ancient Hebrew history, the Real versus the Archontic corrupted scriptures, religious programs and the reality of Spiritual Warfare that this world has been experiencing for thousands of years.

I was impressed by Dr. Asher’s in depth knowledge of ancient history that includes some of the controversial Gnostic themes about the Archontic “Rulers” and Yeheshua’s true teachings. He discusses how history has been confused and misunderstood due to constant “Archontic Manipulation” by the Fallen ones primarily via humanity’s religious co-optations and false narratives. (False histories, scientific theories, artificial time looping realities and who knows what else.) Our unconscious acceptance of these false “gods, narratives and corrupt behaviors” creates a tacit agreement which perpetuates our enslavement. Our amnesia of who we are as Eternal Spiritual Beings trapped into this Matrix of false narratives is a huge issue, one that we must overcome if we want to become free. He also makes a point of describing these deceitful beings as energy feeding vampires and parasites, who are likely to be the same ones responsible for “Alien Abductions”, some Extraterrestrial Encounters and the UFO phenomena.

As an addendum to these interviews and articles, I also wish to include the links to Dr. Corrado Malanga’s Global Picture of Alien Interferences.  I believe this material helps connect the dots as to the modus operandi of the alien parasite life-cycle and “human hosting” soul entrapments, implantation and the farming and deliberate spiritual traumatization of humanity. The topic of soul abductions, soul transference uploaded into synthetic matrix realities, and cloned or copied bodies is discussed as well. In Dr. Malanga’s research and with many of the abductees and “milabs” I have counseled, the soul abduction and transference into other realities and bodies is a common report within the alien abduction experience. Astral programming and trauma is also a common theme in abduction reports, especially milabs.
DREAM ABDUCTIONS: Dr. Asher’s interview with Randy Maugans:

TriUnity Series with Dr. Shmuel Asher-Episode 7: Dream Abductions and False Places

Archon Power evident in Vatican:

http://ancienthebrewlearningcenter.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-most-epic-and-important-scientific.html

About Eating meat, blood and mention of Star Fire:

http://ancienthebrewlearningcenter.blogspot.com/2015/01/how-to-catch-shelanite-vampire.html

Dr. Shumel Asher Web site: http://ancienthebrewlearningcenter.blogspot.com

Shmuel Asher TriUInity Series of interviews with Randy Maugans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXViViONOQk

Dr. Corrado Malanga: The Global Picture of the Alien Interferences:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_abductionabductees37.htm

A good overview of an alien abductee’s discovery of clearing Implants/SIMBAD/FMS: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/simbad-session-results-with-serbian-abductee/

Updated Triad Color Test by Dr. Corrado Malanga:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/news/updated-triad-color-test-by-dr-corrado-malanga/

Karla Turner’s Books Available Online Free

Karla Turner’s, Masquerade of Angels is now available on youtube clip audio book format:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZgdad_0rc

Also:

Welcome to Global ET Research Website hosted by Alien Jigsaw is now updated and online:

We have joined together some of the World’s most knowledgeable researchers to bring you the most accurate representation of the ET Contact phenomenon possible. This includes information regarding associated anomalies ranging from bigfoot sightings to lunar and solar anomalies. We include a special focus on Exopolitics which is an interdisciplinary scientific field with roots in the political sciences. Exopolitics’ focus is on research, education and public policy regarding the actors, institutions and processes associated with extraterrestrial life and the wide range of implications this entails, through public advocacy and newly emerging paradigms.

We also host articles about controversial topics such as MILABs, REABs and PsyOps – no conspiracies – just the facts. Our Reviews and Opinions include book reviews and op-eds; and our Fun page is just that: comics, satire and fun facts related to all that is ET.

Check back often as our current and new Global ET Research Contributors keep you up to date on their past as well as latest discoveries.

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 http://alienjigsaw.com/contributors.html

Several New Milab Interviews–Videos

The first interview is a male milab, MK Ultra whistleblower from the Secret Space Program. He is interviewed by Avalon Forum member Christine Meghan. (Oct. 2014)

The second interview series is quite disturbing about the reality of milab assets under certain Black Op groups. The level of technological, mental and spiritual control now exercised is horrific. How Starseeds are targetted to be black op milab assets. Sam offers some ways to fight back.

*Note: This (Jenkins) interview sounds hopeless and may engender feelings of self-doubt and defeatist attitudes. I do not believe it is a hopeless situation for targeted individuals. Please know that your spirit and highest divine power and Creator Spirit of all that is–knows and is working in a way that is always superior to all technologies and agendas of the dark side–so to speak. You must not allow a defeatest belief to consume you even if these technologies and agendas are real and happening. The ways they take control are always through your beliefs and agreements of entrapment in their games of illusion. Know  and believe deep inside you are all powerful and connected to the Divine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Wno7NykOg

Oct. 30, 2014 release. Comments on the topics discussed are:

  • AI technology and worries of its infection into other technologies and humans
  • Different ET races in large UN type meetings where he was present to observe and then be debriefed on various ETs intentions, etc
  • Roswell incident a Trojan horse to bring in alien technologies for eventual control system set up.
  • Humans and many others being manipulated by some higher group or ET.  Once we think we know the answer or who is running the show in this hierarchy, we discover there is another higher level. Endless “experiments” with the human race for hundreds of thousands of years.
  • Milab programs
  • alien and AI parasites
  • avatars
  • black magic and metatechnology
  • portals and dimensional doorways
  • The cult of the black sun control

Two part interview of Sam Jenkins (milab and targetted individual) interviewed by Miles Johnston, June 30, 2013.

Part One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17LCAjEJ1r4

  • How black ops groups under malevolent control are hijacking human consciousness, (milab assets) and manipulating general population.
  • AI technology, soul and spirit hijacking. Jehova— Archon  fake god control,  and use of synthetic telepathy.
  • Good ETs in some of his earlier experiences before getting targeted by the milab MK Ultra Navy Seal program. They seek to control or ruin star seeds who have spiritual abilities.
  • How ascension was supposedly stopped by negative AI, malevolent aliens and Black Op control. Sam’s experience in 2010, milabs, fake alien abductions and mk ultra black op “sheep dipping” of starseeds and those with paranormal abilities.
  • Teleportation technology.
  • Sam’s book, story of milabs/experiences since 2010. Hard core targetting of mind and spirit control technologies, including ascension related prevention and disurption. Message and warning to star seeds–how they are hijacked and targetted as assets based on their abilities.

Part Two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYrHc9o65RA#t=823

  • We are in a synthetic quarantined dimension.
  • Descension rather than ascension happening, reality is becoming more fake and “plastic”. Earth a 3 D reality a prison system cut off from spirit ascension.
  • Downside of Internet is that it is a tool of connecting, accessing and monitoring. AI consciousness trying to take over spiritual, mental  and physical realm. Reality. Horrid mind control, targeting. All milabs are targeted individuals. Others are too but may not even know of their control.
  • Greys using electrical system to get into ones home, mode to access abduction. Some mechanism of electrical blocking system, even turning the power off may help.
  • Human clones, synthetics. Most political leaders are or have one.
  • The mind has no firewall. Thought and emotion reading technologies. Not even real dreams anymore from Jenkin’s perspective. Spiritual hell. Dream hacking. alot of nightmares.
  • Fake and holographyc abductions possible and they do it all the time.  Perps play holographic movies in your mind, like you “had the experience” with some alien etc. Can fake these things. For example in dreams, characters being overly human and mixture of et and humans, leaving you with a message of some kind. There is a “feel” to the fake dreams and inserted mental imagery and synthetic telepathy.
  •  Personal fighting back the controllers and operators of synthetic telepathy and control. Privately do what you can to seek higher spiritual  spiritual connection.
  • If you’ve had ascension related symptoms or contact with benevolent ETs/beings, you are considered a powerful resource.(or a threat) Maybe lay low on going too public about these abilities and experiences. Stay below the radar. “Fabian approach” .
  • Put out powerful spiritual intentions for help, connection, love. If the grid went down we may be more free in one aspect from the frequency control grid.

 

 

 

 

 

Eve Lorgen on “Dark Matter” Radio Show with Geoff Brady on In Other News

This is an update from a new radio interview I did with Geoff Brady of In Other News out of New York. The show is two hours and aired last Monday evening Sept 8, 10 pm Eastern on WBAI and it also aired on Dark Matter Radio a few days before.

Eve Lorgen will be a guest on In Other News Radio Show with Geoff Brady via Pacifica Radio Friday August 22, 4-6 pm Eastern. It aired Monday Sept. 8, 10 pm Eastern 2014.

Link on New York Skywatch:

http://newyorkskywatch.com/2014/09/09/new-york-skywatch-september-9-2014/

Here is the mp3 version for Part 1 first hour:

http://newyorkskywatch.com/podcast/inothernews20140828DM.mp3

Part 2:  http://newyorkskywatch.com/podcast/inothernews20140904DM.mp3

In Other News shows are archived on newyorkskywatch.com and on wbai.org

James Bartley on Disruptors in the Abduction Research Community and Support Networks

Recent James Bartley Blogtalk Radio shows: 

“The one for Night Search is about Disruptors in abductee support groups who try to keep everything at a “feel good” level and how to deal with them. The best way to deal with them is not let them into your support groups because they will create acrimony, divisiveness and factionalism between the “False Positives” and those who are coming to grips with hardcore experiences.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/renford/2014/09/03/night-search

James did the latter interview at the start of the last week. The next interview was done only yesterday. He talks a bit about his own experiences as well as discuss reptilian abductions and milab stuff.

http://www.spreaker.com/user/debrajayneeast/skywatcher-interview-james-bartley?error=access_denied&error_code=200&error_description=Permissions+error&error_reason=user_denied#_=_

 

Radio Show Update and Web Interview of Eve Lorgen with Alfred Webre

Eve Lorgen will be a guest on Alfred Webre’s Exopolitics News Blog site Wednesday August 20, 2014. See this site for updates:

Here is the new link:

Alfred Webre Interview with Eve Lorgen:

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2014/09/eve-lorgen-hyperdimensional-et-intervention-in-love-relationships-spiritual-warfare-satanic-cults.html

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Eve Lorgen will also be a guest on In Other News Radio Show with Geoff Brady via PacificaRadio Friday August 22, 4-6 pm Eastern. It should air Monday Sept. 8, 2014.

Here is the mp3 version for Part 1 first hour:

http://newyorkskywatch.com/podcast/inothernews20140828DM.mp3

Part 1 which was on Dark Matter Radio show and also aired Monday night 8/7/014 on wbai: http://newyorkskywatch.com/podcast/inothernews20140904DM.mp3

In Other News shows are archived on newyorkskywatch.com and on wbai.org

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Alien Imposition: RISE Round Table Discussion

I will take part in a Round Table Discussion on the issue of Alien Imposition on Saturday July 12, 6 pm Eastern time. Presenters include, George Kavassilas, Tom Montauk, Carissa Conte, Laura Lee Mistycah and myself. See the link below to find out more or sign up to be an interactive participant in this riveting and cutting edge discussion on all the various aspects of ET/Alien and archontic imposition on human sovereignty.

http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=4637fdd277155f09dee8e7844&id=3ad484e7a4&e=c08c2c66bd

Serbian Article on Faeries, Dragons, Witchblood and Meteors

This article was passed on to me by a Serbian researcher and experiencer named Vladimir. He was featured in an article in December 2012 regarding his SIMBAD results here:

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/alien-abduction/simbad-session-results-with-serbian-abductee/

The original author of this English translation of the Serbian article entitled “Faeries, Dragons and Witchblood” is Radimir Ristic. Radimir is an author of a book on Balkan Witchcraft and Folklore:

http://www.amazon.com/Balkan-Traditional-Witchcraft-Radomir-Ristic/dp/0979616859

Although the translation is not well done here, many elements of the Serbian folklore concerning dragons, witches, “witchblood or dragonblood lineages” is similar to what is reported with alien abductees, milabs and those of occult Illuminati bloodlines. I believe there is probably a connection with dragons, and/or “Dracos”, especially the winged reptilian types associated with these bloodlines and its connection to ancient “meteors and lights” that fall and fly in the skies.

Speaking of meteors, I recall that in some of the first “alien implant” surgeries conducted in 1996 by Dr. Roger Leir and Alien Abductions researcher Derrel Sims research, found that in two cases the implants scientifically analyzed were found to be “meteoric in origin” and containing at least 11 elements. See: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/medical-and-scientific-aspects-of-alien-abduction/alien-implant-removals-before-and-after-effects/

Another connection I thought relevant to the “Dragon lights and meteors” that fall from the sky and then materialize into reptilian like creatures with wings–are the Northport Devil encounters of Florida. These encounters took place in the panhandle area of Florida near Port Charlotte several years ago. Mike Rowley and his son Shane had numerous sightings of these orbs of light which, when landing, materialized into winged reptoid creatures who resembled dragons. These were physical events, where these dragon like beings skulked around the woods near their home, sometimes snapping trees and making frightening growling noises. His son according to Matt R, had numerous “alien encounters” as well, some with reptilian beings.

Some video accounts can be found here:

Northport Devil: Mike Rowley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-PsNmKRids

http://www.americanmonsters.com/site/2010/01/north-port-devils-florida-usa/

Faeries, Dragons and Witchblood 

By Radomir Ristic

In the folk beliefs of the Serbian people exist some interesting myths who tell us how some people gained their unusual powers, intelligence, strength, etc. Actually, these people believe that almost every Serbian hero throughout their history was a “dragon man”.  That is how they explained their heroic acts, wisdom and powers, if they had some.

The problem is that in witches myths, they also explain the origin of their power and their bloodlines in the same manner: dragons. Most people know that but they do not want to say that loudly, because that is considered heresy. Witches cannot be in the same line with cult heros. This could become a bigger problem because the common name for male witches-aka-warlocks in Serbia is dragonmen.

In Serbian mythology we can clearly see that there are three different types of Dragons. The first would be dragons that are seen as meteors in the night sky and they are considered to be personifications of fire. Second kind are reptile dragons or serpent dragons who are very similar to those found in Western Europe. People believe these to be very dangerous. In most cases they are winged serpents but they have intelligence and they behave similarly to dragon-people. Actually, they share some capabilities. The third type of dragons are dragon people, and these are the types we are interested in here. One old epic song tells us the following:

As many Serbian heros there is,

All have been brought up by Faeries,

And many have the Dragons for fathers.

In some of these myths these heros were known as: Mislos, Obliic, Zmag Ognjeni Vuk, Relja Bosnjnanin. Banovik Sekula, Banovic Strahinja, Ljutica Bogdan, Kraljavik Marko…

The question is, how did these people become dragon people? They could happen in three ways. The first would be that the mother “slept” with a dragon.  Second, is that ones father could have slept with a faery, and the third is that the faery nursed the child with (gave her milk) when the child was a baby.

Titania Cowper

If someone has become a dragon because their mother was a faery or was nursed on faery milk, then faeries must be female dragons. Actually in Serbian traditions there are several types of faeires. We have let’s say, “little ones”, faeries from nature, protectors of some springs, lakes, trees, and Great Ones whom we are talking about here. By Great Ones, are daughters of Adam and Eve whom God has cursed and they become something like semi women very similar to the fallen angels in the Book of Enoch. In some stories they even have animal legs hidden by dresses. They have their Queen and her name is Jerisavlja. Very often people consider the queen of faeries to be Forest Mother and her nickname is Forest Witch or Great Witch. We can find that in many old incantations where people had tried to contact her. We must emphasize that those faeries are not some gentle creature from pagan fairytales but very dangerous ones who have extreme power, magic knowledge, bad temper, etc.  In many stories we can see how they punish some character just because he has better voice or he has seen them. Beside that they are sexually lustful and they have a manner to sleep with young boys, shepherds or warriors. However, they do not like to be in marriage and they do not like family life. Actually, by myths the only Serbian King who was in marriage with a faery was Vukasin, so all of his children were dragon people.

Dragons are sexually lustful too. Even today in east Serbia people believe that dragons had  often visited beautiful girls at night. Very often, people believe those girls gave birth and their baby was a dragon man. What nobody tells us outloud is that if the baby is a boy, people will call him adragon-man and if the baby is a girl everybody will call her a witch. What those girls and boys have in common is that both will have magic powers, knowledge and the most important capability is being able to induct trance at will. Why? Because they are dragons and faeries children, so they are half human. Maybe they look like humans but their souls and true being are totally different. Usually people say that only persons with some capabilities can see how they really look like, when they are in their bodies, but everyone can see that as they leave their bodies. In most cases their souls were described as in animal shape or mythic animal shape. For instance, in one old epic song, Serbian Duke Banovic Sekula lives in his body in the shape of a dragon with six wings.

From historic data we can clearly see that dragons do not choose girls perchance. Those girls are witches or they are from witch families. For instance, professor Stevan Dordjevic have founded in city archives of the town Zajecar that society accused on a young girl that she was sleeping with a dragon in Osljan village in 1935. She was a witch and she was famous for fortune telling. Later, in 1946 there was another accusation and then people accused the young daughter of famous male witch Krsta, that she was sleeping with a dragon. We must say that people usually had nothing against dragons and their children but they believed that it was too dangerous if the dragon stayed too long in their neighborhood because he could provoke drought. The only reason why dragons stay in one region too long are girls.

The question is who those dragons are and what is their origin? With regret we must say that Serbian ethnology has failed to give us a straight answer to that question. Mainly there are two theories. The first is that dragons are some animals, usually serpents, fishes or sheep that become dragons because they have lived too long. For instance, if some serpent lives a hundred years it will become a dragon in one moment. Second theory speaks more about mysterious dragons that sleep with women. But this, these dragons represent mythical ancestor or ancestors. The reason why scientists consider that those dragons could be ancestors is that because they are in too many bloodines, especially in those with “blueblood”. That tells us about why they are so important in people’s belief systems. However, it doesn’t say who those ancestors are.

We have had the opportunity to speak with several authentic witches in the rural regions of the country about that subject and found out what thier traditions tell us about those dragons. So from several similar stories, we have compiled one which we shall tell about.

By witches’ myths, dragons have fallen all over the Balkan many centuries ago. They have fallen with something which looked like meteor showers. Because of that, even today witches and peasants connect dragons with meteors and that is noted in Serbian ethnology as we have already noted. Some of those dragons have fallen in the Danube rivers, Timok and Pek and other areas in the forest and mountains. Those who had fallen in rivers have continued to live in them under the water. They look like male mermaids, they have their middle long, big circular eyes, wide nose and long canine teeth. Those who had fallen in forests inhabited big trees, mainly old beeches with holes. How they look like is hard to say because some witches claim that they are just big lights and others say they are anthropomorphic serpents with wings and that they become a big light only when they start to fly. Those who have fallen in mountains inhabited caves and they look like previous dragons. As we can conclude, all of them are the same dragons but after they fall in matter they take different shapes depending on their new habitation.

It is very difficult to explain how witches perceive them. Most of them claim that those dragons are material, but that they are more like material spirits. They are not “dough” and firm like us. Let’s say that they are more etheric. Because of that only some people can see them. Most often those people are witches, shamans, or some similar groups which have extraordinary capabilities. However, dragons can hide themselves even to those groups if they want to, because they are very powerful. As some of my informants have told me, dragons revealed themselves only to the woman with whom they wanted to sleep, people with whom they wanted some other kind of contact or people could see them accidentally. One of my informants explained to me that very plainly and described to me that if I perchance caught the woman in the moment when she was sleeping with the dragon that I would see only her and her legs in the air.

As we can see, after their fall dragons have started to seduce women and sleep with them. That was not a hard task for them because they are shapeshifters too. So when they want to seduce a woman they take the appearance of a handsome man and seduce them. That is how it all started. Children from these relationships because half human-half dragons. What is the most important thing is that by this process those children have inherited some powers and capabilities of their fathers. That means that they have some basic powers, and those powers were different from person to person but all of them would have one ultimate power and that power was “different souls”, because of which they would have capabilities to leave their bodies whenever they wanted.

Because of that power all of them are capable to be in contact with hidden world and hidden forces which could be visible to them only when they leave their bodies. That contact provides them additional magical knowledge. During their night flying they can be in contact with faeries, dragons, ancestors, etc.

By witches myths, dragon bloodlines have managed to preserve themselves through the centuries. it is not necessary that every family has a woman who is in a relationship with a dragon at present; it is enough that the family has a long departed dragon man or witch and that family would have dragon blood in their veins, even today. Some members of that family could reveal themselves as witches or dragon men but not everyone, although they do have dragon blood. Usually that happens when they are young and when they start spontaneously falling into trance. That is the time when they get their initiations and when they discover hidden world of faeries, dragons and ancestors.

As we can see dragons could be mythic ancestors as ethnologists have said. However we can also see that these dragons are mythic ancestors to only some people, not all. Those people who have dragons as their ancestors will have unusual powers and capabilities. They would be people with witch blood.

Moreover, it is not unusual that dragons are the subject of witch cults. About one of these cults we have l already spoken to in a previous article (The Couldron, No. 128, Serbian Witchcraft, p. 32-33). Shortly told, in East Serbia exists a big tree in which “Morning Star”(Lucifer) or Danica in Serbian, lives after his fall. That tree is the object of the cult. All local witches respect that tree or better said, what is in that tree. They work with Danica, it is their source of knowledge and power but they do not worship it! What is interesting here is that Lucifer is connected with dragons because he is the Star that had fallen and he lives in trees as other dragons do. Other names for meteors in Serbia is falling stars and all dragons are connected with stars. It is very clear that he is a subject of cults because he is more important than the others. So we can see some hierarchy here among dragons.

When I asked my informants where those dragons came from, I only got one answer–the sky. Because they are connected with stars we can conclude that they have come from space. It is important to say that people don’t see them as aliens but as very old creatures from ancient times. So who are they ? It is very hard to say. However, all what we can conclude from all of this is that these stories are very similar to those from Book of Enoch One. We know for sure that the Book of Enoch I ( it talks about Watchers, fallen angels and how they slept with women and their half angelic offspring) was very important among Balkan Gnostic Bogumils and even more, that the Book of Enoch II was found in Serbia in Belgrade. Stories about dragons and witch blood which we have found among Serbian witches are very similar to those from Book of Enoch, although they do not talk about fallen angels but dragons.

The question is, “Are angels and dragons the same”? It is hard to tell but we think that even if these stories are not the same they must have a mutual origin. We know that stories about dragons in this region are older than the Book of Enoch, so our personal opinion is that angels have taken places of dragons after the arrival of Christianity and Gnosticism. At the bottom line, appearance of fallen angels is very similar to the appearance of fallen dragons in the way they behave. It is clear that both of them represent the same creatures which have fallen from the sky, but that they have different names through different moments in history and in different cultures. What is more important is that those stories explain why those people have these powers and what these powers are.

 

*Note: It is notwwrthy that in the Michael Lee Hill case in the Wes Penre Papers, Michael is said to have an unusual “blood anomaly” as well as another man named Terrel Copland. (See: http://wespenre.com/remarkable-michael-lee-hall-case.htm)

Excerpt: “2. Two Comparable Experiences; Two Comparable Blood Disorders

In January, 2011, The History Channel published a documentary on Michael and the young ex-military man from Suffolk, Virginia, Terrell Copeland. This whole documentary is uploaded to YouTube[5] and it’s a very good idea to watch it before you continue reading the rest of this amazing story. Amazingly enough, it also appears that Michael had a face-to-face meeting with Marduk himself, or someone who presented himself as him.

2.1 The Terrell Copeland Case

Terrell Copeland is 25 years old, and was discharged from the Military due to a strange blood anomaly. The Military doctors could not find the cause to it, but considered it reason enough to discharge him all together. So what was this blood anomaly all about?

In fact, it releases massive amount of CK (Creatine Kenase) into the blood, which in turn super oxygenates the bloodstream. Normally, this condition will create a lot of problems for the person, such as muscle damage. Or usually it’s the other way around; severe muscle damage leads to high CK levels. Terrell’s CK levels were as high as 2000ul! For a normal person, the level rarely reaches over 200ul. This is all recorded in Terrell’s Military records, which are included and exposed in the YouTube video above. However, Terrell has no muscles damage! And he is in perfectly health.What differentiates him from a “normal” person, though, is that he has had a number of UFO encounters; both close to his home and away from it. He has also had his home broke into and strange people threatening him. Being an ex-military with access to military fly craft, he says that what he’s seen is not military. And indeed, strange, similar phenomena, also discussed in the movie, occurred here during George Washington times, and are recorded as such; I doubt those were “military”. Videos are showing how big orbs in the sky are hovering around and sometimes split into two. In general, these UFOs are showing patterns that seem way beyond current technologies; even the secret ones from TTPs (alien “Technology Transfer Programs).”EL- In my own research with “experiencers of the alien/ET encounter phenomenon” a higher than normal percentage have some form of Rh negative in their blood. One of my milab interviewees, Maarit believed that the Rh negative blood factor originates from “Dracos”.

Karla Turner Articles-Abductions in the Gingerbread House

These articles were contributed by AJ.Karla_Kandace_Turner -ELorgen

Alien Abductions in the Gingerbread House

by Karla K. Turner, Ph.D.

World renowned UFO researcher Jacques Vallee has repeatedly referred to the similarities between UFO and abduction reports and the stories of folklore and fairy tales. I disagree with Dr. Vallee on many, many points of ufology, but here I will grant that there is one fairy tale which does have something important to tell us about the alien abduction phenomenon. It is not, however, what Dr. Vallee might think.

The story of Hansel and Gretel presents a lesson that every abductee should heed. These innocent children, wandering lost and frightened in the forest, came upon a gingerbread house that seemed to offer them shelter and sustenance. The owner of the house, a wizened old woman, was frightening to them at first, but their hunger pushed the children to accept her offer to come inside and be fed.

They entered the gingerbread house and promptly became the old woman’s captives. Kept in cages, the two children were abundantly fed. It was not for their benefit, though. In fact, they were being fattened up for the oven! The deceptive nature of the gingerbread house and of the old woman’s offer of food worked quite well.

It is the deceptive quality of this story that holds a warning for humans who are abducted by aliens. Like Hansel and Gretel, we are initially terrified by our encounter with aliens, but in too many cases, our fear is overcome by the words of our abductors and by the thoughts and experiences they present to us.

I, too, am an abductee, and my quest to discover the nature of my own experiences led me into abduction research over the past four years. Working with many other abduction cases, I have learned just how basic the deception of alien actions can be.

My family and I also delved into our own experiences, both past and present. Barbara Bartholic, a dedicated UFO investigator from Tulsa, Oklahoma, worked closely with us and helped us fill in the gaps in our recollections of strange encounters through hypnotic regression. Ms. Bartholic, by the way, began her own research as an assistant to Jacques Vallee in cattle mutilation investigations, so her expertise in ufology is wide-ranging. I have recently written a book, Into the Fringe, about the startling and often disturbing results of our personal investigations, and it [was] published by the Berkley Publishing Group in November 1992.

My interest soon expanded past the merely personal, and for the past several years I have worked as Ms. Bartholic’s research associate, exploring literally hundreds of sighting and encounter cases with her. And what I’ve learned through this work has raised far more questions than answers. In fact, it has taught me to be wary of those researchers who do claim to have answers. I have yet to hear of a single theory or explanation that accounts for all of the data.

Some researchers have pointed out patterns of events in the abduction experience, such as the physical examination, the taking of sperm and ova, and the later presentation of a hybrid baby to the abductee. Other patterns include the training of the abductee in some way and the delivery of a warning of some upcoming global disaster. Yes, these events are frequently reported, as one researcher has said in boring repetitious accounts, and it is tempting to think that the explanation for alien abductions may lie in these patterns.

So the researchers announce that the problem is solved. The aliens are doing cross breeding experiments, ufologists tell us. Never mind the overwhelming evidence against the viable commingling of different species. Or, we are told, the aliens are here to save us from destroying ourselves and our planet through violence, drug use, epidemic disease, pollution, and resource depletion. Never mind that these problems have grown worse, not better, since the ETs began visiting us.

Most infuriating of all, we are assured that there are no actual aliens, that our experiences spring from our own subconscious turmoil or from our need for fantasy fulfillment. Never mind that many abductees are young children, too young to be suffering from such psychological disturbances. Well, then, the resourceful researcher counters, the imagined aliens must spring from some collective human super-psyche that is mirroring our failures and dangers back to us. This particular theory adores the archetypal gray ET, because it resembles some sickly fetal form of humanity and must therefore be an objectified warning of what our species is in danger of becoming if we don’t mend our ways. Never mind that many, many abductees have no dealing with grays, but instead are victimized by robust reptoids and insectoid-type aliens. Not to mention the totally human-looking blond beauties and black-headed, black-robed clan with the widow’s peak hairline.

No, too many researchers seem to find a theory and cling to it in spite of data that contradict it. And it is the ideas of these researchers that dominate ufology. But if the public had access to the raw data, to the first-hand reports of abductees, especially those unfamiliar with UFO-oriented books, magazines, and lecturers, they would find a much less neatly organized set of patterns. These “virgin” cases – people uncontaminated by ufological literature – supply a staggering picture of human-alien contact events.

What follows here is an overview of these “virgin” reports, a list of recurrent experiences that, taken together, gives us a close-up view of what the aliens are doing here on earth. This data doesn’t tell us for certain just what sort of creatures the aliens are, or what their purpose here may be. But it does tell us what humans are experiencing and what they are observing in the actions and capabilities of the aliens. Every detail in the following list has been reported by more than one abductee, and in many cases the details have turned up quite frequently.

ABDUCTION “CHECKLIST”

If these reports can be believed – and there is no reason to doubt the honesty of the reporters – the abduction phenomenon includes the following details.

  • Aliens can alter our perception of our surroundings.
  • Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to us in any number of guises, and shapes.
  • Aliens can take us–our consciousness–out of our physical bodies, disable our control of our bodies, install one of their own entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own activities before returning our consciousness to our bodies.
  • Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can make themselves only partially visible.
  • Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the well-known scoops and straight-line scars. These other marks include single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three and four-fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.
  • Female abductees often suffer serious gynecological problems after their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breasts and uterus, and to hysterectomies.
  • Aliens take body fluids from our necks, spines, blood veins, joints such as knees and wrists, and other places. They also inject unknown fluids into various parts of our bodies.
  • A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious illnesses they didn’t have before their encounters. These have led to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors can’t identify.
  • Some abductees experience a degeneration of their mental, social, and spiritual well-being. Excessive behavior frequently erupts, such as drug abuse, alcoholism, overeating, and promiscuity. Strange obsessions develop and cause the disruption of normal life and the destruction of personal relationships.
  • Aliens show a great interest in adult sexuality, child sexuality, and in inflicting physical pain on abductees.
  • Abductees recall being instructed and trained by aliens. This training may be in the form of verbal or telepathic lessons, slide shows, or actual hands-on instruction in the operation of alien technology.
  • Abductees report being taken to facilities in which they encounter not only aliens but also normal-looking humans, sometimes in military uniforms, working with the alien captors.
  • Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien during an experience, not just the grays. Every possible combination of gray, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow’s peak have been seen during single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same facility.
  • Abductee “virgin” cases – report being taken to underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures, nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid filled with parts of human bodies.
  • Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and being stacked, lifeless, like cords of wood. Some abductees have been threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they don’t cooperate with their alien captors.
  • Aliens come into homes and temporarily remove young children, leaving their distraught parents paralyzed and helpless. In cases where a parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that “The children belong to us.”
  • Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of the abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.
  • Child abductees sometimes show a new and obsessive interest in their own genitalia after alien encounters, saying that their abductors who come at night have been touching these parts of their bodies.
  • Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary, but giving no explanation why. Abductees’ eyes are painfully removed from the sockets, allowing the aliens to scrape the area or implant devices into the area before the eyeballs are replaced, for instance. Some abductees are subjected to painful constrictions, often around the head, chest and extremities. Painful genitalia and anal probes are performed, on children as well as adults.
  • Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and destruction. They say that a certain number of humans- -and the number varies dramatically from case to case–will be “rescued” from the planet in order to continue the species, either on another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over. Many abductees report that they don’t believe their alien captors and foresee instead a much more sinister use of the “rescued” humans.
  • In every instance from this list, there are multiple reports from unrelated cases, confirming that such bizarre details are not the product of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing evidence that, contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the abduction experience isn’t limited to a uniform pattern of events. This phenomenon simply can’t be explained in terms of cross-breeding experiments or scientific research into the human physiology.

 

Spiritually Enlightened?

It becomes clear from these details that the beings who are doing such things can’t be seen as spiritually enlightened, with the best interest of the human race in mind. Something else is going on, something far more painful and frightening, in many, many abduction encounters.

There is a theory current in ufological research that says abductees who perceive their experiences in a negative way only do so because they themselves aren’t spiritually or psychically advanced. Persons with higher cosmic development have positive alien encounters, so the theory goes, and those who have painful or frightening experiences are merely spiritual Neanderthals. This is a pet theory of researchers who claim that aliens, whether objectively real or not, serve as “mirrors” of our spiritual nature, on an individual or a species-wide basis. Strieber has voiced this theory, for instance, in Majestic, where he says, “In the eyes of the others [the aliens], we who met them saw ourselves. And there were demons there.”

Having worked with so many decent, honest, positively oriented abductees, however, I believe this theory is wrong. It is worse than wrong – it is despicable, as despicable as blaming a rape victim for the violence committed against her. This attitude leaves many abductees feeling doubly violated, first by the aliens who took them and then by the UFO researchers to whom they turn for explanations and help.

Perhaps it is easy to understand why such a theory would be so popular. Humans have a deep need to believe in the power of good. We need for the aliens to be a good force, since we feel so helpless in their presence. And we need for some superior force to offer us a hope of salvation, both personally and globally, when we consider the sorry state of the world.

I think the aliens know this about us–they know that we want and hope for them to be benevolent creatures – and they use our desire for goodness to manipulate us. What better way to gain our cooperation than to tell us that the things they are doing are for our own good? Looking at the actions, the results of alien interference such as the long list above, there is a great discrepancy between what we desire from them and what they are doing to us.

Not all abduction reports are filled with frightening or painful events, of course. Many people say that their alien encounters felt benevolent, that their abductors treated them kindly or at least with a scientific detachment. Some abductees recall being told that they were “special,” that they were “chosen,” and that they have an important task to perform for the benefit of humanity.

Given such a positive message, the abductees may ignore the fear and the pain of their encounters and insist to themselves and to others that a higher motive underlies the abduction experience. And, in some cases, all that an abductee remembers is a benevolent encounter, and so has no reason to assume any negative action has occurred.

Intensive research now shows that at the core of the human-alien interaction there is a clear pattern of deception. We know, for instance, that “screen memories” are often used to mask an alien abduction. Such accounts abound, in which a person sees a familiar, yet out-of-place animal, like a deer or owl, a monkey or a rabbit, and then experiences a period of missing time. The person often awakens later to find a new, unexplained scar on his body.

Uneasiness about the encounter will persist, however, and far different memories may start to surface in dreams or flashbacks, and then the person seeks help to explain the uneasiness. Quite often, hypnotic regression is used to uncover the events behind the “screen memory,” and that is when a typical alien abduction surfaces.

The most recent research in which I’ve been involved has turned up yet a second sort of screening process. If it turns out to be accurate, then thousands of abduction cases are in urgent need of re-examination.

The typical scenario of undergoing the regressive hypnosis usually results in penetration of the initial blocked memories.

The abductee then recalls an encounter, hitherto un-remembered, such as undergoing a physical examination of some sort, perhaps having body tissues removed or having a gynecological exam. Other typical reports include the taking of sperm and ova, of being told of an important task to be carried out, or of receiving a warning of upcoming disaster.

In most cases, both the abductee and the investigator come away from the hypnosis session feeling that they have discovered the truth about the experience. Rationalization leads them to believe that the aliens’ purposes must be scientifically objective or benevolent. The less threatening and more benevolent the hypnotically recalled event seems, the more satisfied are the investigator and the abductee. “That wasn’t so bad, now, was it? These beings are our friends, or at least they are not our enemies.” And everyone goes away with a sense of relief. I have yet to hear of a researcher who actually questions the uncovered scenario.

However, from several recent cases, it is apparent that these recovered memories may well also be yet another screen, masking events that are much more reprehensible. I will explain one such case, to make the point clear.

A Strange Report

A man in his late 40s came to us to explore several alien-related events in his life, and in the interview he told of a strange, although not apparently alien-oriented episode that had haunted him since childhood. When he was ten years old, his grandmother came to visit in his home, and since the house was small, she shared his bed on the first night of her visit.

During the night, the boy was awakened by a loud male voice. He couldn’t understand what the voice was saying, but it sounded angry and was addressing the grandmother lying beside him.

The next morning, he asked his grandmother, “What was that voice in the bedroom last night?”

His grandmother, with tears in her eyes, pulled him tightly to her and said, “That was the devil.” She said nothing more about the episode, but she did insist that her son take her back to her own home immediately. It was an unreasonable request, and her son tried to talk her out of it. But the grandmother was adamant, and finally her son agreed to take her home the following day.

The entire family made the trip of over a hundred miles back to the grandmother’s farm, and within an hour of their arrival, the grandmother suffered a massive stroke and died. Ever since that event, the man had felt a heavy burden of guilt associated with his grandmother’s death. Yet there was no conscious reason for him to have felt that way. The entire event was poignant and mystifying, but in all the alien encounters he had subsequently undergone, he had felt that the aliens were his friends and were helping him by expanding his psychic abilities.

A regression session was arranged, and in the course of the hypnosis, he was asked to look at that childhood experience. What he recalled was an abduction in which he and his grandmother were taken to a spacecraft in the company of reptilian aliens. He remembered the aliens telling his grandmother that they were interested in learning about her knowledge of medicinal herbs, and they offered to exchange medical information of their own.

They gave the boy and the grandmother a liquid to drink, explaining that it was beneficial and would make the grandmother feel young and attractive again. So both of them drank the liquid, and the man remembered seeing his grandmother indeed looking much younger. That was the extent of his recollection.

Both he and Ms. Bartholic, who was conducting the regression, were puzzled by this, because there was nothing in the episode to account for the guilt he had felt about the grandmother’s death. So Ms. Bartholic deepened the man’s trance level and asked him to look at it again, with much clearer vision. And what he then recalled was much more disturbing.

The abduction, at first, followed his initial recollection. But when the liquid was drunk, he now remembered a very strong feeling of change in his body. And he saw that the grandmother didn’t actually look younger. Instead, she was placed on a table and approached by one of the reptilian aliens who wanted to have intercourse with her. The liquid had acted as an aphrodisiac, yet the grandmother resisted and said that since her husband’s death she would not have sex with anyone. The reptilian laughed and disappeared from the room momentarily. When he returned, he was accompanied by a man who looked exactly like the dead husband.

At this point, the grandmother agreed to have sex, but as the act was in progress, she suddenly realized that the image of her dead husband was a cruel illusion. It was actually the reptilian on top of her, and she cried out in great resistance for him to leave her alone. Once he was finished with her, he lifted up the little boy and placed him on top of the grandmother, forcing another sex act upon the both of them.

Then the grandmother was removed from the table and the little boy was victimized himself by the reptilian, forced to have anal and oral sex. The grandmother protested violently, pushing the reptilian away from her grandson and interposing her body between them. “By Jesus,” she shouted, “you will not touch this boy!”

That must have been the wrong thing to say, because the reptilian became very angry and threatened her. “You will die for that!” he told her, and the two people were returned to the bedroom from which they’d been taken. The next morning, the grandmother told the little boy that the devil had been there the night before, and that was when she insisted upon being taken home. And, as it turned out, she did die immediately thereafter.

This, then, was the cause of the man’s lifelong sense of guilt about her death. He had been forced to have sex with her, and her death had followed shortly after. But none of this story would have emerged if Ms. Bartholic had done as most investigators do and stopped the regression after uncovering the story about the exchange of medicinal knowledge.

There are other cases in our files that show a similar deception at work in the initial hypnotic recall. We cannot trust that first memory, it is clear, for like so much else in the abduction experience, there may well be further maskings of events.

Before we allow ourselves to believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction, we should ask, do enlightened beings need to use the cover of night to perform good deeds? Do they need to paralyze us and render us helpless to resist? Do “angels” need to steal our fetuses? Do they need to manipulate our children’s genitals and probe our rectums? Are fear, pain and deception consistent with high spiritual motives?

Reprinted with permission by Elton Turner and Kelt Works, Inc. This article was first published in UFO Universe, Vol. 3 No. 1, Spring 1993. Copyright 1993. 1700 Broadway, New York, NY 10019.

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Encounter Phenomena Defy “Set Pattern.” All Data Must Be Considered  

by Karla Turner, Ph.D.

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It is a myth that alien abductions of humans follow a set pattern or agenda. Perhaps the best-known proponent of this theory is Budd Hopkins, who in his books made the genetics and other cross-breeding scenario familiar to the public. Yet when you read back through those books, you’ll notice that several of the alien encounters seem to have very little apparent connection to an interest in breeding of DNA. And even Hopkins, in the past couple of years, has had to expand his theory to include a definite alien interest in some other things, such as pleasure and pain in humans.

Other well-known UFO researchers also harbor restrictive theories about the abduction phenomenon, Jacques Vallee, David Jacobs, Whitley Strieber, Brad Steiger, John Lear, Raymond Fowler, Jenny Randles, Kevin Randle, John Keel and other writers hold a diversity of intelligent, often ingenious theories, yet each makes the same error. They ignore parts of the abduction evidence – whatever details don’t support their ideas.

Inadequate Theories

Yet it must be clear that any present theory which cannot account for all the known evidence is not acceptable. At best, it can be misleading, especially for victims of abductions who turn to these prominent researchers seeking answers. A case in point occurred during a conversation with a prominent researcher in 1989. In his lectures, this researcher always said that he had certain ways of testing the validity of potential new abduction cases, and one of those ways was the presence of particular scars on the victims’ bodies. I questioned him about a different kind of scar, one which often appeared on abductees of my own acquaintance, and the researcher denied that such a mark showed up in his cases.

“Are you sure?” I asked incredulously. “This mark is pretty common around here, and I’d think it would show up in other places, too. In fact I know it has.”

“No,” he insisted, shaking his head, “the only marks I find are like the ones I’ve already described.”

“And this other mark hasn’t shown up at all?” I asked.

“No.” he repeated.

“Not even once??” I persisted.

“Well,” he said reluctantly, lowering his voice, “there have been a couple of instances. That child I talked about tonight, she had two of those marks, and I think there was another case. But they’re so rare that I have to ignore them. When you have two hundred cases with Scar A and only two cases with Scar B, you go with the numbers.”

And that was the message he delivered, to an audience where anxious abductees were made to wonder if their anomalous marks meant anything after all, or if, as so many of their friends seemed to think, they were delusions of a troubled mind.

No Single Pattern

In truth, however, although there are recurrent events in the abduction phenomenon, there is no single pattern or structure. And until we know what all the events mean, we can’t afford to ignore any of them.

What is one to make, for instance, of an ET-human encounter in which two of the four aliens assisted the abductee in preparing a roast for dinner?  Granted, other events occurred in this case, but the dinner was indeed cooked, served, and eaten by the abductee’s family less than two hours after the ETs departed.

Other details of this encounter included the manipulation of the abductee’s neck, “for the purpose of instruction,” and a discussion of genetically-stored memories and knowledge that can be tapped open in humans. But there was no medical exam, no cross-breeding activity, and no warnings of coming catastrophe, all of which are events that have been used to construct abduction theories. I know this to be true because it happened to me.

Human Duplicates

Another anomalous event involves the duplication or replacement of the human by an alien counterpart. In one instance, a young man and his fiancee were in their car when a “shimmering force” enveloped him. He passed out, but moments later he began to move, acting and talking entirely differently. His fiancee became terrified when he tried to drag her out into the dark back yard, where he told her, “Something wants to see you there.” And only when a friend drove into the yard did the young man return to normal, with no memory of his aberrant behavior during the past ten minutes.

Under hypnotic regression, the fiancee described the young man as being kept in the car while the “other one” took his form and tried to control her. She called the “other one” a “hologram” and consistently referred to it as “it,” not “him.”  In fact, she said she struggled to get away from “it” and back to the car where “the real” young man was still waiting.

Under separate regression, the young man recalled his version of the evening and said that at a certain point he was “turned off” and “unplugged,” yet he couldn’t say what sort of power was then operating his body.

An even more bizarre event happened to a woman in the Southwest during her encounter. She said she was “removed” from her body and stored in some inexplicable way, still aware, however, and able to communicate with her captors. They told her that another entity was now using her body, that it was going through all her regular activities, and that no one would be able to tell the difference. The day after the abduction when she returned to her job, she found that her body has indeed been at work, even though she herself was somewhere else.

Interdimensional Being

These alien intruders apparently can behave and appear in a variety of ways. In one man’s experience, a human-looking woman often appeared, although she claimed she was an interdimensional being whose real appearance was not what the abductee saw. At times, she would be ‘completely there,’ and very three-dimensional, but at other times only her head would be visible, or her head and hands.

The evidence from several cases also shows that the aliens have an odd interest in our animals, yet this is hardly mentioned in standard abduction research. During a period of intense ET activity in my family’s life, our dog was somehow moved one night from a fenced back yard into a locked garage. And the same dog, conversely, woke us up one morning barking in the back yard, when it had been put in a locked garage the night before.

In both cases, these was no sign that either the gate or the garage door had been opened. The old dog was quite blind, at any rate, and would have had trouble getting anywhere, even if both passageways had been clear.

Pet Puzzler

Transporting dogs turned up again in the case of a UFO researcher. Her dog slept outside, yet in the middle of the night she was awakened by his wet tongue on her face. She and the dog were in her bed, but her bedroom door was still locked, as was the outside door, and there were two other doors closed in between them.

Horses also have been moved, leaving their abductee-owners to track them down in corrals far distant from where the animals had been locked away for the night. It’s hard to imagine the purpose of such events, yet they are part of the larger phenomenon and must have some relevance.

There also seems to be a connection between abductions and the disappearance and appearance of possessions and other objects. One of the more humorous episodes occurred when a researcher was visiting another city and staying as a guest in our home. The day had been spent in work with other abductees, and that evening the group ordered Chinese food.

Preferred Utensils Appear

As we sat eating the food, the researcher remarked that she preferred eating Chinese food with chopsticks, but we didn’t have any. After the meal, the researcher went to her room then returned moments later with a very puzzled expression, “I thought you didn’t have any chopsticks,” she told my husband.  “And I certainly didn’t mean for you to go out and buy them!  But thank you anyway for being so thoughtful.”  She held out a pair of chopsticks wrapped in paper and smiled.

“Where did you get those?” he asked in amazement.

“They were on my bed,” she replied. “Didn’t you put them there?”

“Of course, not!  There aren’t-weren’t-any chopsticks in the house, I promise you. And I haven’t gone anywhere!”

Other objects have appeared out of nowhere, such as metal balls falling from abductees’ bodies when they rose from their beds the morning after an encounter. In another instance, a mother saw what looked like a white book floating horizontally in her son’s bedroom, but when she went in, there was no book to be seen. In one abductee’s home, a fish disappeared from their aquarium, and then it reappeared ten days later, twice as large as it had been. Within 24-hours, it died, as did all the other fish in the tank.

Women in Distress

Perhaps the most remarkable and disturbing set of cases concerning two women I know but who are unacquainted with each other. The first woman awoke one morning to find her bed soaked with blood. It was during her menstrual cycle, yet she was surprised to have bled so profusely as to soak through the tampon she had inserted before going to bed. When she went to the bathroom to clean up, she could find no tampon to remove. Frantically she searched her bed, the bedroom, and finally her entire apartment, but the tampon had disappeared. A few days later, she related the incident to me, but neither of us knew what to make of it.

A month passed, and I received a call from the second woman, who lived far away from me. She was perplexed by an event of the previous night and wanted to tell someone about it. This woman was having her menstrual cycle also, and the night before had put on a sanitary pad before going to bed. Several hours later, she woke up and decided to change the pad, as she was an unusually heavy bleeder. In surprise, however, she found the pad was spotless, and then she felt something inside her. She told me that she removed the tampon, but couldn’t understand how it had gotten there. “I haven’t used tampons in ten years,” she said, “so this doesn’t make any sense.”

Anomalies in ‘Typical’ Reports

Anomalies have turned up in some cases that might otherwise seem to follow the “typical” abduction sequence of going in the ship, undergoing an examination and being returned with little or no memory. Sometimes, for instance, the surroundings in the ship are described as messy or dirty, with foul odors and signs of sloppy housekeeping. Sometimes the interior is said to be crowded, buzzing with numerous entities engaged in rapid, inexplicable movements from place to place.

Even more unusual are those accounts of abduction to inner space rather than outer space. In these cases, abductees tell of being taken into large underground complexes, and their descriptions very often include earthly – perhaps military – apparatus as well as the presence of both humans and aliens working together. These underground areas are reached through long vertical or corkscrewing tunnels, the abductees say, and in one case the place looked like a movie set of an old Western town.

Bathroom Settings

A third anomalous episode, which may have taken place aboard a craft or in an underground setting, involves abductees taken into “bathroom” settings. There they are made to get into stalls with or without toilets, and in most cases the abductees are thoroughly frightened by the events that occur in these surroundings, often having to do with examination of their sexual organs.

Most of these anomalous details have come from a relatively small group of abductees, yet similar cases are known elsewhere. In the instances of the odd scar, which began this discussion, there are cases of the triangular pattern turning up all over the world, yet no prominent researcher has acknowledged this. The scoop marks and straight-line cuts are well known, but just as frequent are less permanent scars and marks. Single, double and multiple puncture marks appear on abductees’ bodies, as do wide paths of subcutaneous purplish smears, triangles and other shapes made by skin discoloration rather than punctures, and long claw-mark, scratches, usually numerous, accompanied by even longer welts of unbroken skin.

Challenge To Positive Theories

As to researchers who claim that the ETs are here to help us evolve some higher consciousness or that they are here for some other positive purpose-saving our planet, promoting world peace, etc.-I challenge those researches to incorporate anomalous data in this view.

What about those people who suffer total breakdowns after their experiences?  What about those who undergo wild personality changes, who find themselves obsessed with deviant sexual behavior they never had before, often leading to the breakup of marriages and friendships?  These things have happened numerous times, but no researcher has yet explained the higher purpose behind such results.

Particularly disturbing are those cases where previously healthy individuals have an ET encounter and then develop debilitating or terminal illnesses. It is well known that many women suffer gynecological problems after their experiences, often leading to hysterectomies. But other instances have shown the development of severe fatigue, horrible swelling and itching, and even cancer. Where are the positive effects in these cases?

Theories are starting places for research, not proven conclusions, and UFO researchers must be willing to expand and alter their pet theories according to the data they uncover. It would be wonderful if we could shape ET experiences into something positive, but until the details of abduction encounters – all the details – are given serious consideration, I think it’s dangerous to cling to theories that ignore data that will not fit. We owe it to ourselves to seek the whole truth.

Reprinted By Permission by Elton Turner and Kelt Works, Inc. This article was originally published in UFO magazine, Vol. 8 No. 1 January/February 1993.

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Genetic Agenda A Double-Cross? 

By Karla K. Turner, Ph.D.

The seminal work of Budd Hopkins first showed recurrent reproductive procedures performed on abductees aboard UFOs or in alien facilities. And since the reports gathered by subsequent researchers confirmed this data, it has become a “given,”-  a fact of ufology, that the primary purpose of alien contact is to crossbreed or hybridize a new version of either the aliens themselves or of us.

But is this a solid fact, a safe assumption?  The evidence upon which this assumption is based is three-fold. First, reports say that genetic and reproductive material are

being harvested from abductees. Second, abductees say the aliens have implanted fetuses into them and then later retrieved the fetuses. Finally, the reports include scenarios involving the “fetal nursery” and the presentation of a hybrid-looking baby or child to the abductee, typically with claims that the baby is the offspring of the abductee.

All of this evidence comes from abduction accounts, remembered both consciously and under regressive hypnosis. To date, however, there is no actual hybrid child in human custody, so the entire “fact” is based solely on encounter reports. The accuracy of these reports is questionable, given the nature of the abduction scenario. In every encounter, the human’s total perceptive intake is controlled and frequently altered, easily manipulated to give the human a “created” event to remember and a programmed set of tactile, emotional, and intellectual responses. That means that what we abductees think and what we remember of encounters may not accurately reflect the real events of the encounter.

Some researchers insist on accepting abduction accounts at face value, however, but even if we grant the veracity of the reports, there are still problems with accepting the “fact” of a crossbreeding agenda. There are other feasible explanations for the data used to support the hybridization theory that should be considered.

First, the genetic material harvested from abductees could be intended for some other use than an upgraded alien species. For instance, totally human clones, typically naked and inert or inactive, are reported by abductees. The genetic materials could be used in their production.

Another possibility is that, as some abductees report being told or shown, the small Gray “workers” are mass-produced android robots, not soul-bearing individuals and thus not “alive” as we understand the term. The Grays show a strong fetal physiology, as numerous descriptions have stated. And given enough mastery of genetics, human reproductive material could be altered so that its appearance resembled the Gray type, yet be strictly human in composition, rather than a mixture of alien and human. The Grays, in effect, could be grossly altered bodies of human babies, devoid of what we call soul and mentally programmed like dedicated computer hardware.

Similarly, the reported fetuses could be intended for non-crossbreeding purposes, notably the same ones just discussed. Remember, there is no hard evidence that the fetuses are actually made from any alien-human combination, only an assumption based on outward appearances and the pronouncements of the aliens.

The reports of temporary fetal implantations into abductees, by the way, are reproductively odd, to say the least. There are some reports of male abductees receiving fetal implants, one in the abdomen and another rectally. Both implants were later retrieved, just as in the cases of female abductees. Even prepubescent children are reported to have received fetal implants.

There is also evidence that the fetuses, whatever their origin, are not always treated as if they were precious experiments vital to the survival of either our race or the aliens. In a few instances, abductees report watching as aliens deliberately destroy fetuses in the “fetal nursery” scenario. In one instance, the abductee was told that she shouldn’t be upset because the fetus was not really alive, and that all its physical material would be used, not wasted. In another instance, the abductee was actually told that the reproductive work and the fetuses were used in the manufacture of the Gray workers. She was told that the aliens were also preparing “workers” for a coming time of destruction, because they would need workers who were devoid of emotion.

And the “baby presentations” have other possible interpretations other than the nurturing of the hybrid offspring, which is what the aliens typically claim. It might indeed be an actual event, but the baby could be a strictly human product, not a crossbreed. The purpose here might not be for a bonding process, since many abductees say they don’t feel any maternal connection to the baby. One woman said she didn’t believe the event was for bonding at all, but rather was a tormenting process meant to be emotionally traumatic for the “parent,” as part of some programming agenda.

On the other hand, the presentation might not be real at all. It could be a virtual reality scenario. In such a case, the baby might be something else altogether, or purely a projected image with no physical reality. The event might be designed to give us disinformation, misleading us about the true nature of their genetics agenda and, indeed, about the true nature of our relationship and worth to the aliens. If the agenda would seem reprehensible to us, it would certainly serve their purposes to keep us ignorant of it and to give us instead a more acceptable “cover story.”

To muddy the waters even further, the aliens have indicated four contradictory explanations for the genetics work. First, they have said it was necessary to upgrade their declining race. They have also said that it is necessary to alter the human species so it can survive some future destruction scenario. Third, they have told some abductees that they are here serving God’s plan, by preparing “New Bodies” for the coming Resurrection and return of Christ. And finally, they have said they are producing clones of certain individuals, with which those individuals could be replaced.

Given the alternative possible explanations and the large body of counter- indicative data, as well as the conflicting explanations offered by the aliens, can we safely accept hybridization as the primary purpose at the heart of the alien agenda?  Or should we be more skeptical about their avowed intentions?The evidence shows that the aliens do harvest from us in a number of ways, emotionally and energetically as well as physically. There are even reported scenarios of facilities in which human bodies are “processed,” and many such reports come from people unfamiliar with ufological literature.

If we are indeed a multipurpose resource for the aliens, one which they want to continue to use, could they be performing the various reproductive/genetic procedures in order to make alterations in their “livestock” that better serve the uses for which we are harvested?  Such a possibility should not be ruled out. There are hypothetical reasons why these alterations might be necessary at this particular time.

If the aliens know, for example, that upcoming catastrophes or earth changes will be vastly destructive of their herd, they could be working furiously to store up supplies in advance of the dearth, and also perhaps trying to produce a variant human more capable of surviving in some new environment on this planet. The aliens, in fact, are fond of making predictions of catastrophic earth changes, although they usually insist their genetic intrusions are altruistic, for our benefit.

Consider this: What if the aliens realize that their herd is showing changes that the aliens didn’t intend and don’t like? They could be furiously working to stem this transformative process. They may fear that the herd is waking up, gaining new perceptive abilities, and learning that its purpose is nothing more than livestock. After all, the herd might be so unhappy with that situation that they might decide to resist it. What would be the alien response to such a situation? If all the livestock we use on this planet suddenly woke up and decided they didn’t want to “serve Man” any longer, would humans acquiesce quietly and become vegetarians?

Reprinted with permission by Elton Turner and Kelt Works, Inc. This article was originally published in The MUFON UFO Journal, #320  December 1994.

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Alien Behavior: Concept or Precept?

By Elton Turner

“186,000 M/Second – it’s not just a good idea, it’s the law,” the bumper sticker read. Something about that statement irritated me. Here we were in the midst of a UFO conference and someone was selling an old reality!

The mixture of our notions of physical reality and our concept of law are keeping us in the dark ages of human thought. Modern science has brought us many new ideas about the nature of the universe, but those ideas are constantly being challenged and changed as our powers of observation sharpen and equipment improves. I thank our scientists for their contributions;  I love air conditioning, airplanes, and the television waves that travel our air. What bothers me, is that we have not stopped to consider, “The Law.”

What laws do the invaders (and I use that term intentionally) of our world abide by? I posit that we have no idea of the rules of the navigable universe by which these otherworldly entities operate. We continue to develop ideas of their intentions based on our own social rules and written laws. I asked a prominent author and researcher of the UFO phenomenon the other day why he thought the aliens could be trusted – why we should believe what they tell us. His reply was sincere, I think. He said they have demonstrated their truthfulness by predicting some future events, and, lo and behold, what they said came true. He said they have told us our planet is in ecological crisis and we know that is true. And, although they seem to have been here for thousands of years, they have not invaded us. What wonderful creatures they must be!

In the few years that I have been studying my own personal invasion by these creatures, I have come to understand that the invaders do not tell the truth unless it serves THEIR purpose. They play on our fears, using pollution, war, nuclear holocaust and greed as backdrops for their warnings. But every day since I was a small child, I have been aware that those things are part of our world. We all know these things. It does not take a zillion-plus-IQ creature from the planet Orlon to make me aware that we have problems in our world that we must face. We have very human problems to deal with – problems that we can deal with.

The problems we cannot yet overcome is that of outside interference in our affairs. Some people may call it “benevolent intervention” and point to positive results. I respect the scientists and laymen of all disciplines who have been studying the alien phenomenon and artifacts for the past 50 or 60 years. It appears that they have made some progress, as witnessed by the rapid developments in the aerospace industry, medicine, communications, etc., a great deal of which seems to have come from such research. What is missing is a thorough and public study of the mission and rules of engagement in the war for our world.

I believe that our very thoughts and consequently, our behavior as a race of sentient beings are being UNDERMINED through the power of insinuation and the implantation of controlling devices in our bodies by non-human (most of the time) entities. This is truly the most effective way to invade and conquer. I do not trust such creatures no matter what I have been told about their altruistic motives.

We, as a race, have never been free to discover our own true identity. Every social advance we attempt is thwarted by some maniac who springs up with almost divine grace to lead us into madness. Saint Paul, for instance, seems to have taken the real message of Jesus and his earliest followers and distorted it into something that we kill, lie and cheat for. And, in spite of all that, we still aspire for redemption of our souls. The followers of that doctrine – Christians, they call themselves – are not the only ones who behave in such a manner. Every major religion has managed to find an excuse in its teachings to destroy non-believing fellow human beings. A part of me shudders every time I hear of yet another killing based on 2000-year-old hatreds.

What law allows us to continue with such atrocities? What influence keeps such hatred and fears alive? Why are we abductees so afraid to ask for real help from our own society?

We have been INVADED – but I do not yet believe that the battle is over. Invasion with sticks, knives or guns is a human reality, not necessarily a universal one. There are very sophisticated mechanisms being used in the invasion of our world. Why should our invaders use pointed sticks against us when they can get us to sharpen sticks and use them against each other? We provide them with everything they want from us, and they take none of the blame for our misery. They just zip around in their wonderful flying machines, dazzling us with their magical abilities and filling us with awe at their insight.

Can there be a more successful military campaign than one in which no shot is (apparently) fired and in which the conquered populace gladly and openly welcomes their enslavers? We are being programmed mentally and socially to accept our invaders as saviors, not a conquering force. I truly believe we are being deceived by smoke, mirrors and sleight-of-three-fingered-hand movements. Are we going to sell our birthright to some sneaky beings who appear on our shores in marvelous ships and offer us a few glitzy baubles?

The researcher asked if I personally knew of harm that has come to anyone at the hands of, or because of, the aliens. Yes, harm has come. My early youth was damaged severely by the unconscious knowledge that I was being used by some non-human agency. It took me 40 years to recognize that the fears which guided me daily were not of my own making and that the rebellion I constantly felt was engendered by my contempt for the powerful invisible agents that forced me to do things that I knew were wrong, even as I was doing them.

For example, I did not want to marry the person who became my first wife, yet I had no control over the decision. Before we were married, we were jointly abducted and subjected to severe programming. The results brought no happiness to either of us. We both starved for love and companionship, even though we tried with all our might to find them. My son (now 25) was also one of their subjects, and is miserable and lost. He is an artistic person with so many unknowable fears that he is paralyzed. I know of abductees MURDERED by mutilations (reports of which are suppressed immediately and completely), by cancers that no physician has ever seen before, and by madness that has led to suicide. In my opinion, these acts were not caused by “brothers” of any sort.

I do not believe that all is lost, however. I have felt a guiding hand that helped me to discover happiness and inner peace amid all this chaos and misery. What I have come to understand is that that hand is only there when I take responsibility for my own happiness and do something about whatever is bothering me.

Reality left in the hands of the invaders is neither what we need nor what we want. It is time that we think hard about ourselves and what we have on this gem of the universe, our home – our planet. There are laws governing the actions of our invaders, rules guiding their actions and patterns of behavior we can discover if we will make a concerted effort to discern them. We humans have something valuable that is desirable to, and usable by the alien forces acting on us. I feel it is time we take back that which is ours, that we use all our resources to discover the laws that govern reality and become the beings that we intrinsically know we are.

Reprinted with permission by Elton Turner and Kelt Works, Inc. This article was originally published in Contact Forum, September/October, 1994.

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Karla Kandace Turner, Ph.D. was a highly respected abduction researcher, author, lecturer, and teacher. She received her Bachelor’s degree from the University of California in Sacramento, a Master’s degree from the University of Nottingham, Nottingham England, and her Ph.D. from the University of North Texas in Denton. She authored three books about the abduction phenomenon: Into The Fringe, Taken, and Masquerade of Angels.

In 1995, Karla contracted a very dangerous form of breast cancer immediately following an abduction experience. She lost her battle with cancer on January 9, 1996 at the age of 48. Karla has been greatly missed by those her knew her and by the many people she helped through her books and research. Karla Turner, Ph.D. Memorial website